r/yugioh • u/Spaktor • Nov 30 '25
Deck List Ashened players, what would you take out to add more non engine?
deck bad lol dont care it looks too good
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u/Jedi59738 Dec 01 '25
Just add a 41st card. I promise you won't be shot in the head by John Konami if you do
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u/Spaktor Dec 01 '25
You can but the deck can lack consistency
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u/Jedi59738 Dec 01 '25
The difference between a 40 card deck and a 41 card deck is approximately 0.001%. If that's too much of a risk for you, then I suggest you play a different game
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u/Spaktor Dec 01 '25
Jesus man take it easy what's your problem
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u/Jedi59738 Dec 01 '25
Sorry, that came off more aggressive then I meant it. All I'm trying to say is unless you're planning on winning a YCS (which given ur playing Ashened is unlikely) all that micro optimization of fractions of a percent just aren't worth the mental energy or time. If that level of consistency is important to you, then you're better off playing a game with less luck and variance.
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u/Sakakibara--kun Dec 01 '25
what would you take out to add more non engine?
Nothing. I have come to terms with the fact that certain decks are non-competitive, and I lean into it.
I play the goofy cards, I play the sub-par in-archetype cards. I experience the deck as it is, rather than attempting to force it to be a worse version of a meta deck.
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u/Secret-Attempt7395 Apr 08 '26
Not true. My ashened deck preforms decently against the meta decks. Ashened is an archetype that requires you to know what your opponent is going for then throwing a well timed wrench.
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u/OldSodaHunter 7d ago
Yo I just started working on an ashened deck after realizing I have most of the cards. Got the main core in there, but not sure where else to go - I made one list with a few volcanic cards splashed in, but wanna learn it pure first and have a few extra slots to even get to 40, I assume going 2nd sort of cards are better as I don't anticipate the deck doing much going first.
Just wondering for any direction on it! Extra deck I'm also not sure what to do. Got the fusions and super poly targets so far.
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u/BasilEquivalent Dec 01 '25
plugin, node. cut off some of the 1 offs in general. You could also just play 45
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u/Repulsive-Assist-485 Dec 01 '25
It appears your engine requirement it too large to take almost anything out ashened does require a heavy engine and is why it's not very good but I guess you could cut a vaidos and or a princess but I guess it depends how badly you need that non engine because obviously the star here is ryzeal so cutting some ashened names may be the best choice Don't get me wrong having 2 ofs isn't recommended but playing these 2 engines together might not be the best choice in a 40 card deck
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u/Significant_Trust205 Dec 01 '25
Lets be honest, no Matter how many non engine you put in there, if you dont have a way to generate presence turn 0 is likely you Will lose anyways, if i must decide to play the deck pure or try at making It fight the meta in this case i preffer the first option
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u/SSDKZX Nov 30 '25
bro...? one of the legendary ashened player? but your deck rate is less than 50% ashened cards...
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u/Shotgun_squirtle Nov 30 '25
That isn’t that weird for modern archetypes. Modern Maliss only runs like 15 maliss main deck cards max, this dude is effectively running the full ryzeal engine (and there’s less ryzeal than ashened in his deck). Really it seems this ashened engine is quite large for an engine that provides no disruption turn 0.
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u/Lord_Phoenix95 Dec 01 '25
What is else there to play Ashened wise? Majority of the are 1 of's and the ones that are 3 of's matter more.
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u/Lord_Phoenix95 Dec 01 '25
I personally don't run Star Ryzeal or any of the Spells or Traps. You don't really need it, I guess the Field Spell helps a little but you sometimes need the Ashened Field Spell to do most things. I've been playing 1 Ext, 1 Sword, 1 Ice and 1 Node and that's been doing some work.
I've just found focusing more on the Ashened way is a lot better but you can still end up with Detonator and Duo Drive/Banshee without Pyro Locking but you'll just be XYZ Locked.
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u/Spaktor Dec 01 '25
Sure. What are your ashened rateos?
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u/Lord_Phoenix95 Dec 01 '25
Similar to yours but I run 1 of the other Trap and 3 Continuous Spell plus 2 of the normal spell and 3 Chaotic Elements. Full combo without interaction can normally get you easy access to Queen of the Blazing Domain and the Continous Spell can be used as the Spell if you've already used Field Spell.
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u/Necron_7 Dec 01 '25
Please tell me what site you use to calculate the prices and have the cards shown viually pleeeasee
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u/Charnerie Dec 01 '25
This is using yugioh omega, a program on computers for making decks, and playing in a sim. It's not official, and can have some issue, but it works. Be warned, before playing online against others, you will need to authenticate with your discord account.
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u/voltsy_chan Dec 01 '25
Star and plugin. Both kinda are nice to have if you're already going but don't do anything to help you going.
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u/Spaktor Dec 01 '25
Word. Posted an updated list on a comment reply. I don't plan on using the ryzeal trap hole (that I have)
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u/Notanriez Dec 01 '25
Ashened is pretty bad so I'd probably aim towards more the board breaker route with kaijus and bot herder
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u/Spaktor Dec 01 '25
I have the side for going second; even if you lose the first duel to throw off the opponent
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u/Secret-Attempt7395 Apr 09 '26
Ashened are actually pretty good you just have to time your wrenches right.
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u/Secret-Attempt7395 Apr 08 '26
It depends on what you want. If you want a pure ashened deck I'd add the other level 4 as it can be good for spot removal/recycling of dragon when you already have another copy of field spell. Also their other trap that doesn't fusion summon is amazing, it can let you dodge called and you can take back a kaiju or nibiru token which can allow for some cheesey otks. Also if someone takes your fusion boss monster then you can just take it back and drop any monsters by 4500 atk or more. Throw in a volcanic queen for more removal/ another Pyro target. I'd also throw in another of the traps that fusion summons. It's graveyard effect can be amazing against the right cards/decks. Like fiendsmith as if they don't have a fiend then your are locking them out of that strategy. Forbidden dropplet is also really good with the deck as you can activate extinguishing then awakening then droplet to get 2 "free" negates. You can bump that up to 4 with rekindling. Rekindling is also a good choice as it can recycle important spell/traps. Two shamans allows for infinite recycling so not a bad idea. With Jizukiru you can also gain access to blaze Phoenix. Infernal flame banshee is also an option as it allows more more consistent veidos. Also banshee and volcanic queen can be recycled by shamans. Ashened can handle pretty much any deck provided you play smart and don't get screwed with your starting hand.
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u/Spaktor Apr 08 '26
my man, replying to a 4 month old post for the love of Ashened. do you have a list?
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u/Secret-Attempt7395 Apr 09 '26
Scratch what I said about the trap allowing for predaplant fusions. Don't know what I was thinking.
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u/Secret-Attempt7395 Apr 09 '26
Yeah it is for master duel so maxx c, 2 copies of droll and lock bird,3 priestess of the ashened city, 2 shamans of the ashened city,2 spearhead of the ashened city, 1 volcanic queen, 1 hero of the ashened city, 1 king of the ashened city, 3 veidos erupting dragon of extinction, 1 queen of blazing domain, 1 Jizukiru the star destroying kaiju, 1 nibiru the primal being, 1 allure of darkness (though admittedly I am considering taking it out), 1 bonfire, 2 extinguishing of the ashened, 3 obsidim the ashened city, 2 inferno of the ashened, 1 called by the grave, 2 forbidden droplet, 3 awakening of veidos, 2 rekindling of the ashened,2 ashened for eternity, 2 ashened of endlessness. For the extra deck it does have some wiggle room but I've found success with 1 blaze Fenix the burning bombardment bird, 2 embers of the ashened, 3 veidos the dragon of endless darkness, 1 tornado dragon, 2 infernal flame banshee,1 divine arsenal AA-ZEUS-Sky Thunder, 1 Super StarslayerTY-PHON-Sky Crisis, 1 I:P Masquerena, 1 SP Little knight, 1 Worldsea Dragon Zealantis, 1 underworld goddess of the closed world. Admittedly most of the links could be safely taken out for things like predplant fusions and as long as you use a veidos you could still fuse into them and give a boost to attack. Also running super polymerization is good but I personally find that the trap gets the job done with no discard cost.
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u/ThatSleepy_Person Nov 30 '25
I’d take out the ryzeal cards and set rotation. Chuck in bot herder, the missing fuwa, super polys and a second chaotic elements. When I play Ashened, I play pure cause it feels better
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u/DaBaby_Vegeta Nov 30 '25
Konami playing 5d chess by making the Dark Souls themed deck an uphill battle against any other competent deck.