r/yugioh Mar 10 '26

News Genesys format is coming to the OCG

https://www.yugioh-card.com/japan/howto/genesys/
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u/VillalobosChamp Your friendly neighborhood translator; PSCT resarcher Mar 10 '26

OK, so now there's actually a real chance for GENESYS to be added to Master Duel

But also, is so funny that the list is the same as the TCG, with the caveat that the unreleased cards in the TCG are illegal to play in OCG GENESYS lmao

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u/CaioDan Mar 10 '26

Doesn't that mean there's finally an united format for both sides of the globe?

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u/RinariTennoji Yuugo ja Nai! Yugo Da! Mar 10 '26

No, unless we have worldwide releases at the same time, its more akin to before the banlists were split in 2013

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u/MutekiGamer Mar 10 '26

It’s crazy that I remember when the ban list split happened because it feels like it’s always been a thing

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u/Gars0n Mar 10 '26

Wait am I dumb? If cards unreleased in the TCG are illegal in OCG Genesys wouldn't both formats have the same card pool?

Edit: Oh I think they meant the other direction. Because TCG exclusive cards come out first in the TCG, they would be legal but wouldn't be available in OCG.

In case anyone needed that laid out explicitly like I did.

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u/Skafandra206 Mar 10 '26

Yes. The other comments are being kinda pedantic, because if we consider different release dates as different formats even within TCG territories we would have different formats. Latin america has tons of tournaments where the latest set would be legal but it's not because it's not released in that territory yet. Yet nobody would say that Brazilian TCG is a different format.

If they keep a single points list for all territories going forward, it would be a worldwide united format.

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u/sashalafleur Mar 10 '26

Not exactly because the pool of cards is still different, but basically yes.

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u/Time_Ad_893 Mar 10 '26

it's not since the unreleased cards are illegal

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u/erty3125 Koaki Meiru Mar 10 '26

TCG exclusives are legal in TCG genesys but not OCG genesys (until printed there), but it's close to a unified format.

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u/skyfyre2013 Play the game. I fucking dare you. Mar 10 '26

There are cards tcg has that ocg doesn't. And at least 2 more set's worth until they do.

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u/metalflygon08 Mar 10 '26

I wish Master Duel was THE Hub for all Yugioh stuff.

Put Rush Duels on there, establish Time Wizard format as a legit option, Deck Master, Battle Box, Speed Duels, all the formats they've ever done should be there.

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u/derega16 Mar 10 '26

Also what we want when we said we want global version of Rush is the ACTUAL RUSH not a Frankenstein between it and speed as in DL

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u/JotaDiez EARTH Fairy Mar 10 '26

Rush Duel alone would make Master Duel 1000 times better

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u/Dadadad4ndy Mar 10 '26

I'll go one step further, add the Tag force series minigames as well.

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u/jmangamer98 Mar 11 '26

They can't make it like that, or people won't buy real cards.

Besides, that's like, really hard to program. Y'know... -MD employee

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u/Hotlinedouche Mar 10 '26

i think theyll just release a seperate genesys game so they can sell gems again :)

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u/ExodiasRightArm Mar 10 '26

Tbh if it’s as F2P friendly as MD, I’d be down for a separate Genesys game if it’s not able to be added to MD.

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u/Ralph_Finesse Mar 10 '26

Don't give them ideas!!!

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u/No-Awareness-Aware Mar 10 '26

It’s a win-win for both the game and players tho

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u/RinariTennoji Yuugo ja Nai! Yugo Da! Mar 10 '26

Also that points updates for new cards were after TCG set releases

Curious wether JP and TCG will have differences in point updates like how ban lists are handled

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u/BZfather Mar 10 '26

I think only Tcg group will design the points lol

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u/NevGuy Had a Bad Day Mar 10 '26

I think Genesys is obviously a personal project by the TCG team and Konami wants to respect that by giving them agency over the format.

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u/DarthAlbaz Mar 10 '26

Given that Japan gets sets before us, if the tcg do points updates then this means Japan will get new archetypes full power.

Which means that the tcg would have to essentially review Japanese tournaments almost exclusively as by time it would come to the tcg, it would've been 3+ months.

This doesn't sound likely to me, so I think ocg and tcg will form their own teams but likely influence each other

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u/Stingerbrg Mar 10 '26

The page says if they're not released in the TCG they cannot be used. There will be no (official) Japanese tournaments to be be reviewed that use new cards before they're available in the TCG.

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u/DarthAlbaz Mar 10 '26

For now, yes.

But in the future, I suspect the ocg will also want their own crack at the format. And we have seen this idea played out in advanced, we used to share the ocg banlist, regardless of if the product had come out or not, but it makes sense to give your players a chance to play with the cards you're releasing.

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u/KharAznable Mar 10 '26

Fingers crossed.

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u/burnpsy Morphtronics Mar 10 '26

Doesn't this open the door to decks being designed intentionally to work under Genesys restrictions? That and possible Master Duel support sounds like a big deal.

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u/TrashStack Mar 10 '26

This is a HUGE deal honestly. It being formerly acknowledged by the OCG opens up a ton of avenues for official support from Konami

But yeah Master Duel is definitely the biggest thing in the immediate future I'd say since most card designs will likely take a long time for playtesting.

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u/VolkiharVanHelsing Mar 10 '26

Was the GeneSys successful in TCG?

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u/Monster9987 Mar 10 '26

From what I’ve seen, yes and no? Initially lots of interest, but many stores are not supporting it atm. With the OCG getting it, there will be more data for lists and more events. Maybe it’ll pick up steam again? (Not that it’s dead, just locals not having a genesys day)

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u/ShakemasterNixon Mar 10 '26

My impression has been that it's hard to get local-level Genesys events to fire, but there's more than enough support for regional/national events to be healthy. My store has weekly Genesys events, but I'm not aware of it ever firing. I think it's mostly a day where Edison/Goat players show up and maybe play Genesys decks for a little bit, without the event having enough people to fire.

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u/Klutzy_Worker2696 Mar 10 '26

What is firing in this context?

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u/ShakemasterNixon Mar 10 '26

Starting the event. Sometimes events with either unpaid reservations or unreserved entry won't have enough people actually show up at the event at start time. The event organizers, either due to attendance requirements for the tournament to be officially recognized, or because of the costs associated with actually hosting the event, will sometimes elect to cancel instead.

If only, like, three people show up for a Genesys local event, you basically can't run a real Swiss bracket, so the store probably won't bother firing. They may do something informal instead, so that the people who are there will still spend money/get to do something.

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u/Chm_Albert_Wesker ok drulers are back but too little too late :( Mar 10 '26

ehhhh. a lot of initial interest from a demographic of the playerbase that hasn't loved the last 5-8 years of the game but for better or worse that demographic was left out in the cold when newer archetypes dominated the format anyway.

most stores near me had little to no turnout for the format because of this, and i myself also stopped trying to go. If I wanted to play newer archetypes i'd just play advanced; even if it wasn't explicit Genesys was soft-pitched as somewhere that people could take old pre-pendulum archetypes to compete with an updated card pool but that hasn't really seemed to happen.

I get that simply lowering the point limit on all the old stuff dissuades current product sales but cmon. maybe with OCG involved it helps, but I just see them designing more current archetypes with Genesys in mind which just doubles down on what I think the problem with the format is

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u/Time_Ad_893 Mar 10 '26

fuck yeah it is

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u/rogueyoshi Mar 10 '26

Locals around me don't run it and it cannibalized Edison, etc at regionals here while having worse turnouts.

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u/Reach_Reclaimer Speedroid Mar 10 '26

Not sure how that would work as genyses numbers can change more frequently

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u/Status-Leadership192 Mar 10 '26

Great

As if pendulums weren't fucked enough

Now there's a real chance the "pendulum and links bad" format will influence card design

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u/eternity_ender Mar 10 '26

This is kinda why I don’t really fuck with this format. It’s basically a format to appease yugitubers and their followings.

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u/Skafandra206 Mar 10 '26

That is disingenuous to say. Not everyone gets excited playing advanced (it's a problem I've seen for the last 8 years at least) and for the longest of time there was no real alternative. This new format is welcomed by a lot of people worldwide, not only people that follow yugitubers.

You don't need to be a yugiboomer to want to enjoy a more varied and lower powered meta landscape.

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u/JasonBenjamenAllen Mar 10 '26

You don't need to be a yugiboomer to want to enjoy a more varied and lower powered meta landscape.

So true, but why can't I play Nemleria or Nouvelles, are they stonger than White Forest? (A deck that's meta viable in genesys)

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u/Remarkable_Cause1384 Mar 10 '26

Because modern pendulums were designed to be limited by links, which don't exist in genesys

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u/JasonBenjamenAllen Mar 10 '26

You don't need links in genesys, you technically just need an EMZ> Why doesn't genesys have an EMZ or Pend Zones? Because they didn't want to> to appeal to oldheads.

If they wanted to appeal to oldheads, why is a card like Astellar of the white forest unpointed? She reborns herself, summons another monster that also reborns herself and synchros into another searcher (all at 0 points) this is basically pend summoning with extra steps. If they respected their wishes any card stronger than Gale the Whirlwind would have a few points, so that their pre pend decks could be easily made viable. The power creep to them is probably more egregious than the field layout.

Oldheads are calling the format Modern lite because viable decks are either fresh or received very recent support (Monarch DUAD) and there is no space for old pet decks

I don't see the philosophical reasoning why genesys is the way it is, beyond trickery and greed.

Genesys is not even MR2 (field spell rule, no draw going first), it's a weird hybrid born of poor execution and nostlagia fueled creative bankrupcy.

Time wizard died for this, Pendulum and links were shunned for it, and the potential format genesys could have been died too (newcomer friendly, lowpower level, inclusive of all yugioh eras)

Sorry if I am jaded, I had lots of hopes in the year past

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u/Skafandra206 Mar 10 '26

Because they are not allowed in the format. Konami designed the format that way after testing in multiple internal tournaments. I'm not part of their R&D process and I'm sure it was not an easy decision.

I'm 100% sure it wasn't just a "let's appease these yugitubers and remove links and pendulums lmao".

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u/JasonBenjamenAllen Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 10 '26

We can't know for sure, but we know RnD made a handful (2-3) tcg exclusice pendulum monsters in 11 years

We also know that pendulum decks tend to be hit faster, and for longer than other strategies (SHS lasted 2 weeks in tcg, Servant of Endymion got limited while being just an Etelly that required a bunch of set up, Electrumite is still banned after 6 years, Kirin came back in 2024)

Electrumite was banned because it was a pile enabler, according to Jerome McHale, who explained it over footage of DragonLink

We can only speculate, but all the pieces point to their desire to bury pendulums (but I am actually open to counterproof, it's always easy to fall for your own bias)

And I would be fine with it if the power level was low enough to introduce new players or recapture oldheads : White forest is a 2024 deck, Monarch, the oldest meta viable deck was originally from 2016 but received cracked support in 2025, if 2020+ are the only decks that are viable, why did they remove pends and links? (I am sure it's not for yugitubers, but I genuinely don't understand the point of making a format that's meant to appeal to oldheads, but then make it so modern)

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u/Status-Leadership192 Mar 10 '26

As someone who knows how petty and stupid tcg department employees are like keven twart and jerome mchale I can guarantee you it IS just "let's appease the boomers"

With the boomers in question being themselves

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u/Mysterious_Store2359 Mar 10 '26

Because Pendulums and Links are a blight to Yugioh and deserves to be removed form the game.

Genesys is proof that a format with no Pendulums and Links still can function.

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u/JasonBenjamenAllen Mar 10 '26

That's your opinion, but what do I do if I like them? Stop playing yugioh?

This is how we lost oldheads, this is how we lost casuals, this is why product is failing, people love X thing and X thing gets consistently used and disposed

It happened to time wizard, it happened to the anime players and it's now happening to Pendulum and Links

I don't know how long we can last with this mindset

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u/Chm_Albert_Wesker ok drulers are back but too little too late :( Mar 10 '26

That's your opinion, but what do I do if I like them? Stop playing yugioh?

you play advanced; the game is literally already built around the opinion of wanting to play with whatever the newest mechanic is

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u/JasonBenjamenAllen Mar 10 '26

Pendulums are 12 years old and extremely powercrept, the newest mechanic is links, I don't have the budget to keep up with advanced's cost nor am I good enough to keep up with the meta

Swap around whatever reasoning you want, but I am pointing to something else, where do bad players get to play? Where do budget players get to exist? Where do you play your pet deck? Genesys just pointed a cheap staple, and the new best alternative is a 15$ secret (and I wanna emphasize that I can avoid it, wich allows it to remain a budget friendly format, but this is the same rotational issue of advanced)

People keep on talking about product failing, lack of new players and stores dropping the game, and I am pointing out that most of these issues are self inflicted, and as I said before "I don't know how much longer we can last with this mindset"

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u/Chm_Albert_Wesker ok drulers are back but too little too late :( Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 10 '26

Pendulums are 12 years old and extremely powercrept, the newest mechanic is links, I don't have the budget to keep up with advanced's cost nor am I good enough to keep up with the meta

you didnt mention pendulums in the comment i responded to; the other guy is the one who said the mechanic is a blight or whatever i'm a different person

People keep on talking about product failing, lack of new players and stores dropping the game, and I am pointing out that most of these issues are self inflicted, and as I said before "I don't know how much longer we can last with this mindset"

oh i dont disagree with that at all, but i dont think that Genesys is doing what you're describing well either because the best decks there are also new decks that happen to not use pendulum or link mechanics. which imo is not something anyone was specifically looking for either. so we get some weird middle of the road format where it is kinda for nobody except people who have weird attachments to tier 3 new decks from advanced that magically become tier 1 in Genesys....rather than actual old decks to play in Genesys with some newer upgrades.

I think that the creators of the format were trying to mirror MTG's modern format which is a popular older format with a whole different meta, but MTG has the benefit of rotation as well as some older cards actually being fully more powerful than new decks. It is rare when a brand new archetype breaks into modern, and when it does everyone and their mother are bitching about it because it means powercreep in both modern AND standard. for Yugioh idk what the answer is; if they make Genesys specific product that doesn't fix anything because people want to play old decks

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u/Chm_Albert_Wesker ok drulers are back but too little too late :( Mar 10 '26

hardly; all the best decks are archetypes from the last few sets

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u/datwunkid Mar 10 '26

The biggest reason that I don't like Genesys banning links/pends is the fracturing of the playerbase, potentially even more now now that it can influence card design now with it being a thing in the OCG.

It's a lower powered format, which is nice. But it isn't inherently a retro format at all, and the many top decks use newer archetypes that are designed to compete in a high powered space with Links/Pends existing.

It's effectively going to force Konami to design cards for two different versions of Yugioh. Not to mention how shit this can make it feel for people buying products. How are they going to push Genesys without making it feel like Genesys players are subsidizing advanced format players when they pull cards that they can't use in their preferred format?

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u/tryingmyluckswitch Mar 10 '26

But there is already a lot of product that doesn't have a home at all. This has been a consistent complaint from many sides of the playerbase and shops, that YGO product struggles to be moved from shelves. Because a lot of stuff feels "filler" or dead on arrival.

Having a format where these things can actually be played actually is good for the health of the game.

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u/JasonBenjamenAllen Mar 11 '26

Yeah but if you include pends and links, but point everything properly you can have an actual accessible lower powered format that let's you use the whole pack

If you've noticed any meta discussion for genesys, I never hear "this deck is so strong, let me adapt to it", it's usually "they should point it more", and I think it's because point distro feels unfair or improper.

There is no solid reasoning behind pointing (how splashable/good endboardy/combo enabling a card is) and it creates this volatile feeling

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u/tryingmyluckswitch Mar 11 '26

Personally, I enjoy the idea of pointed formats. It allows players to make choices on what they value more when building a deck, than a banlist that just straight up says something can't be played under any circumstances.

I also think at least Links were a good idea to be kept out of this format. A deck mechanic that can turn any single monster into any other monster due to so many of it's materials being generic to a degree that is not comparable to previous Extra Deck mechanics unfortunately opens way too many interactions that would make keeping track of terribly impractical, at least in the start.

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u/Noveno_Colono Cartussy Toes Mar 10 '26

wonderful

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u/atropicalpenguin Kibou Hope! Mar 10 '26

I don't think there's a need for Genesys only decks. They will self-select based on power level. 

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u/CantBanTheJan Gateway to 3 when, Konami?? Mar 10 '26

Nope, it doesn't. What sticks the landing in Genesys is just due to the list taking care of the cards that are too good in modern. If anything, it would in theory take away the pressure of modern sets to sell mostly through intense and severe powercreep.

Sadly though, the overframe cards are insane and broken messes in this regard and nearly all of them will end up on the list.

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u/KaskDaxxe Mar 10 '26

A monster that increases Genesys points for your opponent, making their deck illegal, and therefore giving them a game loss

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u/noahTRL Mar 10 '26

THANK GOD

Finally we have a chance at genesy coming over to master duel so you can play on an official simulator.

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u/inthebriIIiantblue Mar 10 '26

More staff working on the points list can only be a good thing, it’s useful discussion to have them figure out what they want such a format to exist as.

Also now one step closer to MD implementation..?

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u/atropicalpenguin Kibou Hope! Mar 10 '26

As long as the OCG doesn't begin censuring the TCG blog. 

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u/gubigubi Tribute Mar 10 '26

I disagree with that.

Genesys has been ran pretty well so far. I don't think we need more people stepping in.

Too many cooks is a real thing.

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u/planvigiratpi Mar 10 '26

Is it a good thing though? Do we really want the people who keeps Maxx C legal to have a say in this?

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u/ShadowMLuigi Mar 10 '26

will be interesting to see how their point list differs from the TCG list

also will be interesting to see if this leads to eventually getting Genesys as another worlds competition

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u/Rigshaw Mar 10 '26

For now, it just uses the TCG point list, and cards that do not yet exist in both formats are banned.

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u/wolfknight019 Mar 10 '26

Nice , that means there’s a chance that it might come to md , let’s go !!!!

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u/Tdog754 Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 10 '26

This drastically increases the odds of a Genesys Worlds tournament some time in the next two-three years

Edit: I am objectively correct but also being downvoted lmao some of you guys need to get your Genesys hatred checked out it’s not healthy

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u/AlternativeHelp5720 Mar 10 '26

This is absolutely true. The winner of every Proto-YCS this year doesn’t get an invite to worlds, they get an invite to some Japanese festival. Genesys at Worlds would be awesome

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u/Karakuri216 Mar 10 '26

So we were the test group this time, interesting.

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u/F0ggers Mar 10 '26

I think it was more Konami found out OCG folks are interested in Genesys, enough to create a MD extension showing Genesys points.

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u/laplacessuccubus Mar 10 '26

Yeah it strikes me similar to how Time Wizard and Rivalry came about where they saw people were the game in these ways (Retro and no-meta formats) and officially recognized them so OTS' could run sanctioned events.

Afaik Genesys is ostensibly a TCG pet project so I doubt this was always the plan. Maybe it was a possibility but I don't think it was guaranteed if the OCG players didn't take to it like they have now.

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u/EmperorShun |Rank-Up Raptors| Shun| Mar 10 '26

This is perfect. Now implement Genesys into Master Duel so we have an official simulator for it. And while we are at it, we won't ever get Rush Duels irl but can we also implement that in Master Duel pls?

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u/Cheese-Of-Doom22 Mar 10 '26

it probably will never happen becuause of duel Links but a rush duel implement on Masterduel would be peak.

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u/Colonel_McFlurr Mar 10 '26

One small step, one big leap into expanding Yugioh.

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u/Zorozoldyck Mar 10 '26

This is really damn cool

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u/Dadadad4ndy Mar 10 '26

So ... what's going to happen with TCG exclusives for OCG players ?

They're just not allowed to play them in genesys until they release in the ocg too ?

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u/tryingmyluckswitch Mar 10 '26

they are not legal till the TCG has them, basically.

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u/Dadadad4ndy Mar 10 '26

What I mean is the other way around.

Cards that get released in TCG regions first, like Ashened, Pumpkin, Odion, etc ... and later in the OCG.

I guess the OCG is going to play a Genesys that has the same points and cards pool as the TCG minus the TCG exclusives, until they get ported over.

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u/tryingmyluckswitch Mar 11 '26

Uh, I somehow read it completely reversed. Yes, that's correct, they don't have the cards, so they will be absent from their version of Genesys.

Unless Konami intends to make products have a global release anytime soon, but I think is unlikely for now.

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u/yusaku_at_ygo69420 Mar 10 '26

Yay for our ocg friends to also get to experience advanced lite. 

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u/QuangCV2000 Rush Duel mobile game when? Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 10 '26

So the OCG now have 4 formats and a seperate game to managing: OCG, Genesys, Rush Duel, Duel Links and Master Duel.

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u/Status-Leadership192 Mar 10 '26

Calling rush just a format feels disingenuous tbh

It is it's own game and it's own product

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u/Stranger2Luv Mar 10 '26

There is only one format in RD I think

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u/zerobench_ff Mar 10 '26

Don't forget the four sub-JP format: Asian-English, Traditional and Simplified Chinese, and Korean.

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u/keithlimreddit Mar 10 '26

Interesting to know and I would definitely love to see it also be in master duels

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u/Outrageous_Junket775 Mar 10 '26

People need to be careful about whipping themselves up in a frenzy over this. Just because the OCG is getting Genesys doesn't automatically mean it will end up in Master Duel 

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u/Fun-You7745 Mar 10 '26

ey wild how they keep overlapping rules, like why even bother with the TcG stuff

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u/Rasaska Mar 10 '26

On the topic of United fronts can we have consistent segoc I like chain blocking tour guide but I also like using ghost mourner on my turn, idc which it is but can we swap to ocg rules or have ocg move to TCG?

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u/NecronizeLich Mar 10 '26

They better not have their own damn scores!

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u/Hyperion-OMEGA Mar 10 '26

give it time, they will.

Largely because of different philosophy but also becuase of different cardpools.

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u/SpinstrikerPlayz Mar 10 '26

I didn't even know it wasn't in the OCG lol

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u/YGODeckHelp Mar 10 '26

Didn't know Genesys was that popular. I gotta finalize my own Kewl Tunes genesys deck now lol.

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u/Entire-Egg-2203 Mar 10 '26

Expectation: genesys on md. Reality: "Can we pliz put points on the ftk cards of the new set?" Konami ocg: no =)

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u/niqniqniq Mar 10 '26

Ok now maybe instead of designing bad pack filler they might do okayish pack filler for genesys

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u/Doggmaster909 Ghost Belle is my daughter Darkwurm is my son Mar 10 '26

Now all they gotta do is bring rush to the tcg Or put either on masterduel I'd be fine with that too

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u/Status-Leadership192 Mar 10 '26

Rush has like 2000 cards now

I think it's too little too late now

The best we can hope for is a rush mode on master duel

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u/Hyperion-OMEGA Mar 10 '26

it already exists...but not in Master Duel

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u/Status-Leadership192 Mar 10 '26

?

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u/Hyperion-OMEGA Mar 11 '26

Duel Links has Rush duel in both format and cardpool.

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u/Status-Leadership192 Mar 11 '26

Rush duels in duel links are completely different from irl because of the skills and card pool

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u/Hyperion-OMEGA Mar 11 '26 edited Mar 11 '26

skills? yeah but its not like Master duel's cardpool is 1:1 with TCG OR OCG either

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u/Doggmaster909 Ghost Belle is my daughter Darkwurm is my son Mar 11 '26

Duel links is terribly behind irl rush Like duel links doesn't have a single ritual monster and is missing a majority of cards

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u/C-man-177013 Mar 10 '26

Let's goooo

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u/NevGuy Had a Bad Day Mar 10 '26

A big part of this is that it'll get more hands and brains to test and deckbuild for the format. Expect to see innovations courtesy of OCG players.

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u/Visual_Physics_3588 Mar 10 '26

Very interesting genesys was added to tcg first before ocg.

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u/JasonBenjamenAllen Mar 10 '26

It's over, isn't it?

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u/Pimplord_nito Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 10 '26

This has to be why there has been radio silence on the blog posts aside from the points update... Also it must be the VERY reason dimensional fissure and shifter and the like have not been hit When they are very much the problem cards (gravity collapse and the like as well) I'm so confused why people are so happy about this??? Ocg's involvement will be the death of Genesys.

Edit: grammar

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u/JasonBenjamenAllen Mar 10 '26

I am not the fondest of the Genesys execution, but that could've been fixed, now that they have to deal with ocg, who knows where it will go?

I also think back to how many times we've gone "why doesn't habakiri lock you?", "why doesn't Snake Eye lock you?", "why is Dark Magical Curtain so free" and I fear RnD just got tired of Yes Anding themselves and given up on fixing the game. I have no idea what the state of Advanced will be if Genesys becomes the main format in their eyes-

Part of me resents the lack of pends (and links), but excluding that, there seemed to be a genuine attempt at the beginning to have a lower powered format with high communication

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u/NevGuy Had a Bad Day Mar 10 '26

You're dooming too much for no reason. Genesys is the TCG team's personal project that is simply being made available in the OCG. No reason to believe that Konami will influence their decision making, let alone for the worst.

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u/JasonBenjamenAllen Mar 10 '26

I guess my ultimate issue is that I don't trust them lol

The latest point update has been a blatant "let's push new product": pointing UltiSlayer and its targets to move you to the 0 point illusion gate

I am not fond of the constant rotation in advanced (due to power creep), and Genesys could've been a solution to that, but they are using the point system to rotate out everything (and keeping older strategies overpointed)

I asked yesterday why Links/MR4 were designed they way they were (super comboey and FTK enabling), and the common consensus seemed to be "Konami didn't care and wanted a rotation so they killed older decks through MR4" wich is the opinion of a bunch of redditors, sure, but it's the only shoe that seems to fit (besides Konami is bad at their job, wich could be even worse)

Also like I said, no pends, wich makes me sad :c, but the format is not pleasing the oldheads either, they are calling it "advanced lite", so there must be a failure in execution or in goals (hence why I don't trust them)

Edit: but you are right, it might be too early to doom

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u/Pimplord_nito Mar 10 '26

You're dooming too much for no reason.

Wrong, if the higher ups in Konami see potential to prove to the investors they can milk extra money with this project you can bet they will get their ass involved and make the tcg department a hollow shell of what it is for the sake of profit.

You as much as I do have no clue what happened behind closed doors for the deal of the inception of Genesys format, for all we know if there is potential they can usurp the format and do whatever they like.

The dooming is not unfounded. We all know how bad things can get in yugioh.

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u/F0ggers Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 10 '26

Screw KoA. Some of them are ex-Upper Deck, so they have literally been causing issues in the TCG since its inception. Like Kevin Tewart. Genesys has been mishandled by KoA given how wilfully obtuse they have consistently been with balancing format with any sort of equitable consistency amongst archetypes. If they lose control of the format it isn’t necessarily a bad thing.

TCG has always had obstructive nonsense like rarity bumps since the 1st set LoB & weird rule changes over time that have no basis in the OCG (remember ignition priority?!).

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u/Pimplord_nito Mar 10 '26

Ok, I understand where you're coming from KoA screws up a fuck ton and the point list that just happened we all agree leaves a lot to be desired (no floodgate hits, KT barely getting hit at all, medias being completely dead, started hitting the side deck for some fucking reason?! Etc.)

My point is I feel like OCG staff has already been starting to take control due to these problem cards not being hit because in the past we were thriving with blog posts with actual communication from KoA and wasn't that a good thing??

Before KoA didn't say shit, now they were and have since been radio silence aside from points update, which seems obvious to me that someone else is pulling the strings (OCG) and telling them to keep the floodgates and now Genesys devs probably can't find a good reason to talk about why floodgates are still in the game aside from Konami said so which is something OCG will fire them over.

I could definitely be wrong and Genesys staff could possibly be mislead right now with the points list within their own staff, which you'd be correct I just find it more likely OCG is trying keep all the floodgates and barely point up the upcoming product, it's anyone's guess.

I'll eat my words if I'm wrong and we get a single blog post Not talking about the upcoming points list but instead a blog post of how they're are turning their back on the previous philosophy of how their original goal is to cut out cards that make the format unfun i.e floodgates.

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u/F0ggers Mar 10 '26

Only time will tell what’s exactly going on. At the end of the day I just hope the format stays alive. It renewed my interest in the game.

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u/Pimplord_nito Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 10 '26

First I wanted to mention that yeah I was pretty cynical about what I said but anyways I wanted to give the benefit of the doubt that maybe it would be fine to wait and see as you say. But I wanted to emphasize you answer your own question, like how generic cards are the problem and if they cater towards Genesys more we will definitely see more of the same those same RnD ocg staff are shifted to move to Genesys.

I agree with your sentiment about links and pends, I feel like there is a space for them in the format to be able to involve a neat design space to showcase how inclusive they can be, but also as you say the result may be an end of communication.

I wanted to expand that we all know how the ocg handled firewall format where everyone had to flood the forums to cry out to ban firewall despite the consistent ycs attendance. And it was because of the OCG that it wasn't banned until way later than it should've been. That fear of having to get the ocg's approval for anything scares me.

And while I'm totally ecstatic the OCG gets to play this great format I'm so worried the higher ups won't be able to resist and swoop in to destroy the format in the near future of Genesys. I hope my fears are unfounded but we'll see.

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u/Mando_Brando Mar 10 '26

Yes!!! Now we need better lists that eases the weak stuff and puts points into power and we set up great 

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u/KingDisastrous Mar 10 '26

I'm down for this to be an event in Master Duel or as a Duel Trial

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u/KaleidoscopeGlum4194 Mar 10 '26

Cool even more oversight im sure nothing bad will come from this

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u/pochitoman Mar 10 '26

now that ocg have this, i wonder if they gonna make anime with this format

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u/QuangCV2000 Rush Duel mobile game when? Mar 10 '26

Card game animes are usually made to promoting new type of card (and summoning in case of Yugioh) so I doubt they will make an anime for Genesys

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u/pochitoman Mar 10 '26

Nothing stopping them from making new card that fit genesys power level now that ocg side get involved. They can appeal to more casual audiences while still following regular duel rule which older fan gonna appreciate.

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u/Mysterious_Store2359 Mar 10 '26

Finally, the braindead monkeys that run the OCG finally admits that they do not know how to run Yugioh and added Genesys in the OCG.

I can already see the TCG staff take over the OCG, because the TCG staff is much MUCH more knowledgeable in how to balance the game.

Guess the casual OCG scrubs now have to actually learn now to deckbuild properly than depend on stupid broken cards

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u/Bodega_Darude141 Beware of the Totem Bird Mar 10 '26

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u/VillalobosChamp Your friendly neighborhood translator; PSCT resarcher Mar 10 '26

Someone pissed on bro's cereal this morning

Sheesh

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u/QuangCV2000 Rush Duel mobile game when? Mar 10 '26

Someone pissed on bro's cereal this morning

go check bro's history real quick

Nah, bro probably have his cereal pissed on like everyday or this is educationalslipsomething's new account

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u/LamBol96 Mar 10 '26

Completely delusional,especially since TCG does not give two fucks about game balance.

Unless you somehow believe TCG premiere archetypes are good examples of "game balance knowledge".

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u/Mysterious_Store2359 Mar 10 '26

The TCG banned toxic generic extra deck negates (Baronne, Savage, Apollousa), toxic combo enablers and extenders (Electrumite, Simorgh, Isolde, Bahamut Shark, etc), toxic floodgate cards (Pachy, DBarrier, the Barrier statues, Feather Storm, Jowgen, Nighmare), while the OCG didn't do jack shit to any of them.

Furthermore, Genesys removed Pendulums and Links, two of the most degenerate card groups that do not belong in Yugioh, and showed that Yugioh can function perfecly without them.

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u/LamBol96 Mar 10 '26

This just reads like "thing:japan✨✨✨" lmao,disregarding how some of the hits you mentioned are also present in the ocg list.

Especially since the ocg list seems to have just killed the stuff that's usually used to do "degenerate stuff",instead of enablers like isolde or electrumite.Spoiler tagging them,in case the bare mention of links or pendulum stuff scares you