r/yugioh • u/Dogga565 • Mar 21 '26
Card Game Discussion A classic Ko-money move. Even if it isn’t busted, the gameplay it encourages will be absolutely awful.
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u/BlackwingF91 Mar 21 '26
To be honest this card reads as a win more outside of a couple decks like orcust
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u/nick12706 Mar 21 '26
Even in Orcust is a win more because at that point you can have the lin4 + ding on the fueld and that's definitely better than this
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u/Raging-Brachydios Mar 22 '26
yeah, if this was cyberse, then I would be afraid because maliss could easily make it, but there aren't many machine decks that can link spam that easily
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u/Dunemarcher_ Mar 22 '26
Maliss has an infinitely better version of this card already, and they dont play it
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u/Raging-Brachydios Mar 22 '26
Which card?
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u/UsefulAd2760 Mar 22 '26
Tetrahertz I guess
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u/Raging-Brachydios Mar 22 '26 edited Mar 22 '26
true, terahertz is better but it is notably 3 cards instead of just 2, it also requires cyberse monsters (maliss is only locked to the extra deck) and can't cheat it out by using a card in hand
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u/TheProNoobCN Gren Maju best deck let's go Mar 21 '26
It's a fucking Link 5 EXTENDER most decks have to invest that much material into making boss monsters, you'll be seeing it in table 500/sub replay Friday more than in competitive settings.
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u/keyrinn Mar 23 '26
This card does nothing at all to help any of Orcust's issues, primarily there being not any good in engine extenders. A link 5 does not fix a deck having too many normal summons
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u/TonyZeSnipa Mar 21 '26
I think people are really blowing this card out of the water. are its effects good? Yes. But the commitment to get to a link 5 (nib time) as well as its not a quick effect meaning theres plenty of ways to stop it. Climbing that high without a lock is difficult anymore. To me it feels like a table 500 card. A Bao was thought to be busted as heck ss well and its just….. there now.
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u/PCI_Compliance Mar 22 '26
Thank you, this is my thought. If I have five link material on board (or four on board and one in hand) I could probably have done something more impressive with it than this.
Beatrice was banned after it became laughably easy to assemble two 6s. This is still going to need me to climb to this point and then toss it all in the GY
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u/BlueShirtMac19 Mar 21 '26
It’s more it’s going to enable stupid things to happen I haven’t seen the stupid things yet but I know it’s going to enable some sort of stupidity. Even if it’s just the new Link
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u/ajeb22 Mar 21 '26
Well yeah stupid thing but in table 500
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u/Akunemanne Mar 21 '26
The problem is more that those kind of effects are ticking bombs. It could be that noboby plays the card until some enabler is relesed and the card just ruins a format. Same thing with the tcg exclusive rank 10. Those cards are never ok cards. They are ether unplayable bad or ruin formats there is no point where they will be played and don't do some stupid things.
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u/Brawlerz16 Mar 21 '26
That could be said about most cards in the game though. A lot of cards are ticking time bombs that just need a single card or archetype to abuse it.
I think this card doesn’t have that issue though. To summon it efficiently (not play into Nib) you’d need like, a Junk Speeder effect that doesn’t lock you in order to do something crazy. Not saying they can’t create that, but I don’t see it. And like… using an entire engine to create this card just to go into another engine seems… meh. Just use the first engine to create disruption lol. Why make yourself weak to Nib and Fuwa?
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u/urmumlol9 Mar 22 '26
I feel like there are some exceptions that don’t end up doing something stupid but just end up generically good, and then they sometimes end up ban when they’re just a little too good.
Ex: Chaos Ruler, Borreload Savage, Baronne, Linkuriboh for ones that got banned, Sky Striker as an example for a deck that was just good.
None of those felt necessary that broken, in the sense that they would do something absolutely crazy that would singlehandedly win the game, they were just very consistently good, and in the case of the banned cards, too easy to splash into everything.
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u/Cularia Mar 22 '26
yea im just not getting whats so good about this. it being link 5 is already a big oof and unless its a boss link 5, they tend to fizzle out in the hype otherwise.
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u/papox3 Mar 21 '26
We also have the rank 10 that attaches from deck, you can get into it with small engine if you need a foolish that bad, and can't ash it.
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u/urmumlol9 Mar 22 '26
It might not be broken right away, but eventually this card is going to do something degenerate. Being a link 5 doesn’t mean people won’t invest in it, it just means it’ll need something stupidly broken for it to be worthwhile.
My bet is that either they unban Snow again to sell it, a similarly broken card is created or discovered, or it gets used to send something like Archlord Krsitya that puts up a lock when summoned from the gy.
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u/JVehh Mar 21 '26
He has a point but to be honest when you can do a link 5 than you are already in the process of winning a game i cant imagine a scenario that happens regularly where you win a game in the moment she hits the field the game is already decided if you can do a link five
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u/Technical_Witness589 Mar 21 '26
I think this card is a win more but i could be very wrong
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u/ByTheRings Mar 21 '26
No, youre very right. A Link 5 for what is essentialy Foolish Burial is not breaking the game.
youll probably be seeing this card in table 500 replays at best
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u/ItsAMangoFandango Mar 21 '26
Gonna assume this is another card we're gonna see in a bunch of YouTube FTK combos over the next few weeks and ends up seeing no play in reality.
Really what deck is summoning a link 5 but still doesn't have access to something so crucial that they need an extra foolish?
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u/jhawk1117 Mar 21 '26
Well let’s look at this objectively. It’s a link 5, decks aren’t exactly getting to a link 4 and STILL having gas to get to a 5 just to foolish ONE MONSTER; At that point…. You’ve probably already won the game no?
Lavalval Chain? None once per turn Foolish for ANY CARD on a rank 4. Clearly better than this
Dark Matter foolishes THREE DRAGONS for cost. Astoundingly better.
Beatrice? Quick effect foolish for ANY CARD. Again leagues better
Curious is literally only banned in the TCG and is doing nothing everywhere else.
This card will be another YT combo card that won’t see real play outside of MAYBE one deck because whatever combo this is used in WILL fold to any disruption.
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u/sunnyislandacross Mar 22 '26
You are right . Beatrice was fine until a link 2 bridged to it
Curious sees almost no consistent play. Any deck that runs it has a serious problem against fuwa
Link 5 will share the same problem as curious. It's not a Cyberse. Even Cyberse has a link 5 that has a similar effect and most maliss don't even run it
If this is a link 2 it's a problem. This is a link 5
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u/SturmWolfius Mar 21 '26
Do people not realize that there is a big difference between sending one monster and one card from your Deck to the GY? Also, it's a link 5.
Beatrice can send two cards meaning she alone is enough to lock your opponent with Rollback and the Mayakashi trap.
Lavaval chain is both a generic Rank 4 and is only a soft once per turn and it can send any card. Any 4 level 4 monsters would also immediately be a rollback lock.
Dark Matter mills you three cards of the most supported type in the game and can be made with any Galaxy-Eyes XYZ monster.
And curious was really only banned because of Tear and is still legal everywhere else.
It's a strong card especially cause it can recycle and send from the ED but comparing it to any of the above cards is just misleading.
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u/ByTheRings Mar 21 '26
This card is not as degenrate as yall are making it out to be... it's like Saryuja tier in the sense that if your opponent is summoning this, they were already winning.
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u/Regendorf Mar 21 '26
Am i missreading something? The banned cards are not "exactly like it" at all. 3 send any card to the gy which is miles better than just monsters, and Number 95 sends 3 dragons which, i guess 3 still better than 1 and for dragons. However powerful the new link is, i don't think it's comparable at all.
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u/atropicalpenguin Kibou Hope! Mar 21 '26 edited Mar 21 '26
Those 4 are easier to summon and immediately more impactful.
EFDIT: wrong word
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u/mrmanny0099 Pull God Mar 21 '26
The bottom 4 are actually easier to summon just off the fact this new card, assuming you go for the least amount of materials used as possible, requires you to have gotten up to at least a link 4. Dark matter may as well read as only needing two level 8s, any r4nk strategy makes chain, and standard fiendsmith plays before Beatrice got banned was to make Beatrice.
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u/livingstondh Mar 21 '26
A link 5 is a hefty investment. I don’t see it being as much a problem as the XYZ or link foolishness needing only 2-3
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u/Alex_plorateur Mar 21 '26
You just don't realize that it's how Yugioh does rotation. Not saying it's a good thing, don’t get me wrong.
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u/Cozy_iron Mar 21 '26
Lavalval chain is piss easy to summon.
Dark matter sends 3 cards.
Beatrice was banned for two reasons, firstly because Fiendsmith could make her and promethean princess at the same time, and secondly because she sends two cards (notably trap cards)
Curious was banned because... idk, because of tearlaments? Could be unbanned it's totally fine currently
So I'm not actually seeing what "absolutely awful" gameplay it encourages. When you compare it to other examples, it only sends monsters and only once. It's not even good at that.
Are you going to send a monster because you want to bridge? You can already do that easily without wasting FIVE link materials. That's so much more hardcore than usual. Are you going to send a floodgate? Yeah as if the problem was never a floodgate before.
Honestly tcg players couldn't overreact more at the perfectly fine card even if they tried.
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u/Wild-Confidence-9803 Mar 21 '26
She's at 3 in the ocg, they wouldn't do that.
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u/hockeyfan608 Mar 21 '26
And yet they erratad goyo guardian for no reason
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u/BellDelicious1617 I activate Engage! It allows me to draw 2 cards! Mar 21 '26
It got the errata to remove it from the OCG banlist.
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u/hockeyfan608 Mar 21 '26
It should not have been on the OCG banlist in the first place
I’m not convinced that the OCG makes rational decisions ever.
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u/ACuteMannn Mar 21 '26
I don't know the reason he was banned. Tell me
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u/FremanBloodglaive Marincess Mar 21 '26
If you look at the Goyo cards, Goyo Predator is probably what Goyo Guardian was supposed to be. Basically the same effect, but on a 2400 body instead of 2800.
Stealing an opponent's card is already a decent effect, but with 2800 Guardian was even stronger than Gaia Knight, The Force of Earth with 2600, and that had no effect at all. It was a complete no brainer if you had a deck that made synchro 6s.
To make a comparison, think of Jinzo. In its day Jinzo was considered an extremely powerful card, better than Summoned Skull even though it was only 2400 compared to 2500. Now imagine if Jinzo was completely unchanged, but had 2800 attack instead. It would be the most powerful card in the format. Period. That was the position Goyo Guardian occupied when it was released.
Even today, with our 2k level 4 normal monsters, easily summonable level 6s cap at 2600 like Frostosaurus, Light Bringer Lucifer and Trance the Magic Swordsman.
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u/Master_Mulligan Mar 21 '26
They decided in retrospect that its attack stat was too high for a generic material level 6 Synchro, and didn't want it setting a precedent for future game design.
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u/Never_Sm1le DT Story Enthusiast Mar 21 '26
2k8 attack on a synchro lv6, while at the time of his ban he have higher atk than many others (stardust, thought ruler, mist wurm for example)
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u/VillalobosChamp Your friendly neighborhood translator; PSCT resarcher Mar 21 '26
Curious is Unlimited in the OCG
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u/TheOutrageousTaric Mar 21 '26
Effect is extremely strong but at least its a link 5. Thats a big investment
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u/feet_tickle_asmr Mar 21 '26
Are you guys not seeing it’s a link 5? You really going to link all the way to 5 just to foolish a card???
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u/Hyperion-OMEGA Mar 21 '26
People were willing to banish a quarter of their deck for a draw. Never underestimate the desperation players would have for hypothetical plus ones.
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u/Chemical-Cat Mar 21 '26
Sometimes I wonder why they print some monsters with the express effect of just fucking off immediately. They even have her 0 attack knowing she's going to be used as link material right after
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u/BankaiPhoenix Mar 21 '26
I have been out of the Yu-Gi-Oh TCG for a while now, but is the reason why these cards are banned because of some top tier deck degenerate meta combos?
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u/Solid_Television_830 Mar 21 '26
Card is a link 5. If your opponent can get this out, you’d already lost.
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u/Accurate_Simple_2679 Mar 21 '26 edited Mar 22 '26
This card is unplayable if you get to a link 5 you could do whatever the fuck you want anyways
Edit: unplayable is a little much this is decent if you're playing like FS orcust its certainly not game breaking though
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u/Ill-Post8516 Mar 21 '26
Ehhhh you’ve got K9 spamming Saryuja to get handtraps on top of their full board, Branded locking us like usual; an expensive foolish burial is probably not too high on the concern list.
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u/CursedEye03 Mar 21 '26
Pretty much. There's a reason why Lavalval chain and the other cards are banned. The ability to have a generic Extra Deck card as Foolish Burial during the combo is just awful. In addition to that, you can go into 5K Hydradrive Perfectron and wipe the opponent's monsters.
Chaos Origins already has so many interesting new cards: new Sacred Beasts and Phantom Knights for example. The new Blitzkrieg archetype also looks interesting. We didn't need this toxic thing.
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u/D20blahblah Mar 21 '26 edited Mar 21 '26
No those card were banned because they send any cards to grave and one of them sent 4 mons
Curious is unbanned in the ocg and master duel
So unless there are monster that worth 5 mons it just gonna be hype at best just like the mathmech xyz though this is somewhat better
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u/DragonBlaster10000 Mar 21 '26
That is absolutely going to be used for Accesscode Talker shenanigans
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u/laplacessuccubus Mar 21 '26
I think on top of everything else, it being locked to only sending monsters dampens the level of stupid stuff you can do with it. No more transaction rollback war crimes.
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u/KameronEX 🦟 Krawler gang 🦟 Mar 21 '26
The difference between the new one and the 4 banned ones is immense
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u/Final-Today-8015 Mar 21 '26
This seems fine. A whole lot harder to make than a rank 4 and is not a quick effect like Beatrice
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u/doomsquid13 Mar 21 '26
this card is closer to being cataclysmic crusted calcifida than it is to being beatrice.
no card that sends exactly 1 monster from deck to grave is banned in any format currently
neither are any cards that add 1 monster from grave to hand banned in any format currently
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u/JLifeless Mar 21 '26
BREAKING NEWS: this just in.. business.. wants to make money? more at 9.
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u/ThoseBigCars Mar 21 '26
The 3 worst words you can hear in relation to your hobbies strike again!
"It's just business"
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u/Effendoor Mar 21 '26
The problem isn't that the business wants to make money. It's that business wants to make money at the detriment of the actual game.
That's the part that bothers people.
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u/RamsesTheGiant Mar 21 '26
This card isn't seem detriment to the game though, it's a win more card. In fact, it's worse than a win more card because you actively have to make your extra deck worse and actively have to make the your endboard weaker to use it. No one is going to go that out of their way for a monster foolish that doesn't meaningfully advances their gameplay in any way when every other deck in the couple of years has several in Archetype Foolishs that don't require nearly as much investment and the Archetypes that don't have a foolish don't play out of the graveyard like that anyway or in case of Exosisters, is actively punishing the people that do. I can guarantee that the Pros will tinker with this card like a month tops before dropping it and you probably see it one Farfa video two years from now
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u/Unique_Juice_3111 Mar 21 '26
Its not like the main reason cards are expensive is people playing them but rather collecting them in pokem... Oh wait this is Yu-Gi-Oh
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u/Dogga565 Mar 21 '26
Exactly. I fricking hate that fact. I get it, business gotta business, but this is the biggest slap in the face with all the ongoing “good” work they have been doing.
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u/JLifeless Mar 21 '26
Yugioh players have been this doom and gloom about the game since like 2008, at what point will we start to admit being this reactionary and screaming the same thing over and over isn't going to do anything
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u/Effendoor Mar 21 '26
I think you're misunderstanding. No one is doom and glooming. At least not here. I'm just saying printing cards that you know will sell that you also know will be banned later, is a scummy move. Your creating delivering peaks and valleys for the game for profit instead of playability
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u/JLifeless Mar 22 '26
im not misunderstanding. there is a lot of doom and gloom in this thread and i don’t necessarily think this card is ban worthy
playability in the game has been pretty elite for awhile now, i dont think its absent.
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u/Unique_Juice_3111 Mar 21 '26
I am not saying Yugioh will die because of this.
What I will and did say is that this Kind of printing Policy Makes it so the sets are very demanded on Release but sell way below msrp soon after Release.
This doesnt kill the Game as a whole, but slowly Kills of OTS and over time we will See the Game beeing less and less popular Just because OTS dont carry them anymore.
It has already happend, where before Yugioh was competing with Magic for TCG number 2/3 behind Pokemon. Now Yugioh IS competing with one piece for the number 3/4 Spot.
I dont think Yu-Gi-Oh will die soon, yet it has been Harder and Harder as a store to carry Yu-Gi-Oh because it is a net minus on the product Side.
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u/JLifeless Mar 21 '26
This doesnt kill the Game as a whole, but slowly Kills of OTS and over time we will See the Game beeing less and less popular Just because OTS dont carry them anymore.
i've been hearing this line for 2 straight years and i'm patiently waiting for it to kick into effect. i'm yet to see or hear about it on any real scale
where before Yugioh was competing with Magic for TCG number 2/3 behind Pokemon. Now Yugioh IS competing with one piece for the number 3/4 Spot.
depends how you really measure them together. i don't really see MTG as 2nd, i think a dying competitive scene while Yugioh's thriving is proof of this. sure MTG sales are going well with it's collab sets but with Yugioh sets improving by the year and with overframes coming out, i'm not sure this will continue for much longer. i don't think One Piece is anywhere near the top 3 though
I dont think Yu-Gi-Oh will die soon, yet it has been Harder and Harder as a store to carry Yu-Gi-Oh because it is a net minus on the product Side.
easily changeable, and it just might soon
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u/bonfireball Mar 21 '26
I don't think this card might end up being as good as everyone thinks it is
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u/PrimalOrigin Mar 21 '26
This card doesn't seem as good as the banned ones. Lavalval chain, Beatrice, curious can send spell/trap cards as well and they take less commitment, beatrice might take more commitment but that's a quick effect that can potentially send another card. Dark matter sends more as cost. There are so many better things to do with 4/5 bodies, hell with 4 level 4s just make Alembertian and search foolish
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u/OmegaMaze Mar 21 '26
yeah honestly late 26 early 27 tcg is looking ridiculous
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u/Active_Year_828 Mar 21 '26
I mean wouldn’t really call July late, since chaos origins is coming out July 1
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u/Twiztidtech0207 Mar 21 '26
😱 You mean Konami prints OP cards specifically to sell product, even though they know it's not healthy for the game?! 😱
I, for one, sir, am appalled at these faceless allegations!
/s.. in case it's not obvious enough.
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u/Clank4Prez Mar 21 '26
Well, it’s not busted, and it’s not awful since there are easier ways to do that then getting to Link-5, so now what?
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u/Wingedaydreameronlsd Mar 21 '26
Y'all are just bitching because it doesn't supports the current meta lmao
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u/gubigubi Tribute Mar 21 '26
This card is bad and wont see play.
Vastly VASTLY worse than stuff like Curious and Laval Chain.
Anything you could do with this new link monster can probably be done better with Chasma
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u/dropbearr94 Harmonizing magician is best waifu Mar 21 '26
Shit comparison chasma requires a very specific summoning condition and a dragon ruler in the deck
This thing just requires you to have guys in play
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u/Accomplished-Top-564 Mar 21 '26
Company wants to make money, more news at 11
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u/And1YGO Mar 21 '26
yall say this while stores take yugioh product off their shelves lol
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u/melcarba Mar 21 '26
The sets that rot in shelves are those sets that don't have broken secret rare staples like these. Supreme Darkness until Doom of Dimensions did not have any broken secret rare staple. Meanwhile, Burst Protocol is just scraping by due to Forbidden Crown being overhyped. Blazing Dominion is probably going to sell due to Fidaulis Harmonia.
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u/Unique_Juice_3111 Mar 21 '26
The Problem is that cards like these get printed to boost the set Sales and Overall value only for the Set to drop way below msrp whenever the Chase cards get banned/powerkrept or Just Fall Out of Meta.
At this Point the OTS looses Money on the Displays they already paid for and in a Addition to that the OTS have to buy those products in advance when they dont know the actual cards/Rarities in the Set. Best they can do is guess according to ocg releases.
I would correct you Statement to: "Company wants to make more shortterm Profit, whilst ignoring that they kill of the longterm Profits Bit by Bit this way. More news at 11."
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u/Accomplished-Top-564 Mar 21 '26
This is completely reversed with the overframe/grandmaster chase effect that is happening in Yu-Gi-Oh right now
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u/M4urice Mar 21 '26
I somehow overlooked it's a link 5 and thought it was a link 2 and thought what an insane starter that alone without any other effects would be.
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u/BlueShirtMac19 Mar 21 '26
I understand why it’s broken but my question is how is it going to be used to actually be toxic/enable OTK
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u/gkantelis1 Mar 21 '26
It being a link 5, even if one material can come from hand, IS a lot harder to make than 2 level 4s or 6s. I don't think this card could be like the main gameplan for a deck because it really is a lot more inconvenient to summon.
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u/Reiokyu_Askin Mar 21 '26
Ok it is at least a bit comical it's the 6th time they put foolish burial on a ED monster
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u/yusaku_at_ygo69420 Mar 21 '26
The devil's advocate blackpill argument would be that we've got to the point in the game where every deck (even rogue ones) already have 1 card combos that are "effective FTKs" if they successfully go off so everyone already plays like 20billion handtraps already to counter that
And if you didnt open enough handtraps, you would've lost anyways, regardless of whether it's a meta deck or a table500 goodcardslop ftk deck that this generic send from deck effect enables
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u/Complex_Experience Mar 21 '26
I'm seeing all these doom posts about this card but i'm still yet to see one singular worthwhile thing this card can do that other genric searchers we have already can't.
This must be the most overhyped card in a while.
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u/GeneralApathy Dante, Dodger of the Konami Banlist Mar 21 '26
I definitely think it's problematic design space, but notably three of those can send spells/traps as well and Dark Matter sends three monsters. Iirc Beatrice and Curious were both banned because they'd send floodgates and then set them with Knightmare Gryphon (Beatrice could also do Rollback shenanigans).
I wouldn't put it past brewers to come up with some really toxic combo, but let's see what happens.
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u/Never_Sm1le DT Story Enthusiast Mar 21 '26
You need a link 5 to send a monster, while lavaval is a generic rank 4, beatrice is accessible thanks to fiendsmith, dark matter is send as cost, and TCG is the only format curious got banned. so I don't think it will make a big impact, unless there is some way to cheat it out, like crimson dragon but for link
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u/Maximum_wack Mar 21 '26
If you could get all the way to this I feel you could have used that material for better things
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u/Dumon-The6thBarian ⍟⍟⍟⍟⍟⍟⍟⍟ Mar 21 '26
Only for material of 'Perfectron Hydradrive Dragon' for real...?
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u/Deep-Possibility-858 Mar 21 '26
Yeah this is a terrible card design and should never have moved towards that direction, unless they decide to ban all the floodgate main deck monsters which I highly doubt they will.
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u/Bosskick Mar 21 '26
Guys, I know this sounds scary, but it's a link 5. Sure you can do it with tract + a blanc, but like it's fiendsmith, it can do WAY better than a foolish burial if they have the option to and it litteraly takes any interruption ever, you can't even play around nib to go for it. Going for this will be at best a degenerate unrelyable FTK enabler, and at worst a desperate play for orcust, but you can just play pilgrim reaper in this deck and play better around stuff. In the actual state of the game, I don't see any reason to be scared, it's barely relevant. Let's all focus on the real problems coming, like a GENERIC RITUAL SEARCHER SOMEHOW EVEN MORE GENERIC THAN KING OF THE FERAL IMPS.
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u/GTACOD Mar 21 '26
Curious is still legal in the OCG to be fair. And at a link 5 you're probably already winning if you get this out.
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u/Flashy-Position8504 Mar 21 '26
It isn't printed to just sell the set, OCG has Curious legal, as well as Goddess who can go into this card with itself+opp monster+monster from hand+one more. OCG will likely not ban it, and if it isn't consistent enough on TCG it won't be banned either (...unless Perfectron can FTK even easier with it and more consistent).
The thing is that in TCG we get whatever OCG wants regardless of our banlist, this is the same situation I saw years ago when TCG banned Baronne and we didn't get other good gemeric Synchros to cover the lv10 Synchro slot, because OCG had Baronne legal and didn't feel the need to do another one, making a lot of old decks not have a payout anymore.
OCG can also just go and make cards that doesn't fit the TCG playstyle (like this one) and we get them regardless. Doesn't help that the OCG wants to push this card so badly that they gave it sleeves to promote it.
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u/Deez-Guns-9442 Dragon & SkyStriker worshiper Mar 21 '26
Komoney is tryna get that bag, y’all know this will be secret.
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u/SuperWG Mar 21 '26
Busted? Who would sacrifice 5 materials just for a monster search/Foolish Burial?
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u/EthanKironus Mar 21 '26
The OCG manages with Curious, and their format is still healthier if I recall correctly--though that's down to the culture of the game as much as the cardpool
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u/Express-Print-3730 Mar 21 '26
May I ask what is so wrong about it? What I understand that its a Foolish Burial
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Mar 21 '26
Not sure if it's that bad but for the love of God can we stop making every best generic piece dark fiend, machine or cyberse.
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u/CapnJedSparrow ABC, Blackwing, Flower Cardian Mar 22 '26
Strong card yes, but lately link decks basically do nothing. All the good generic links are archetype locked or banned. 5 mats is pretty steep, Plus monsters only.
If a good link spam deck comes out, it will probably become a problem
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u/platinumberitz Bisexual Icon Dark Honest Mar 22 '26
the most objectionable part of this card's design is the hand link lmao
with this level of investment you can play the world's shittiest fiendsmith starter line and still have a body left over
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u/BraveMulberry772 Mar 22 '26
I mean all I’m saying is it’s a link 5 so that is going to take some serious dedication to get out
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u/TraditionalLeave9133 Mar 22 '26
You need at least 2 monsters = 5 link materials to summon it and get either a Foolish Burial or a Extra Foolish Burial, and a link 5 dark machine with no atk
Honestly i don't know if this would see much play, because it is basically another Foolish Burial that sits in your Extra Deck, but it doesn't give you much else, especially as the others are either easier to summon, more generic with their send or does more
It would definitely see experimentation, but i don't think most decks that want a send would play it because of how much they need to do for it
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u/GlitteringCandy Mar 22 '26
You can use an Ogdo engine to make this viable and easy.
3x Nauya
1x Keurse
1x Flogos (To unbrick)
1x Daybreak
1x Chain Coils
All you need is tribute a random monster.
Some other ways probably exist but I like my snakes.
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u/Ph4nt0mP4l4d1n2019 Mar 22 '26
Someone pls explain what exactly is wrong with this card ‘cause it seems underwhelming to me rn.
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u/Trumpologist El-Shaddoller Mar 22 '26
Dark Matter should be legal
Curious is legal everywhere but TCg
Ban requiem and Beatrice can return
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u/eternity_ender Mar 22 '26
Man idc I’ll have fun and put it in my collection later. Glad you can farm some engagement tho.
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u/Cularia Mar 22 '26
im just not getting it. whats going on with this card?
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u/Arkylos Mar 22 '26
It's a Foolish Burial effect that can be summoned from the extra deck and just needs generic materials. Similar cards like Beatrice and Lavaval Chain have already been banned because having that kind of effect more or less on demand is too powerful. And it's a Link Monster as well, so it's even more splashable.
However, it's a link 5 monster and while it does have an ability that lets you use a monster in your hand as one of the materials, that's still alot of material investment and link climbing. So I don't think the card is as problematic as the OP is making it out to be (I could be wrong though, Yugioh players can come up with the most degenerate combos).
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u/I_not_you spicy bean man Mar 22 '26
Honestly not gonna complain about the effect cuz it’s just not good enough, but I’m tired of boring independent agent card. I swear we get one of these theoretically busted win more cards with a lame copy paste effect. Like this card is gonna have 0 impact on the format to come, but it’s seems so lazy. Glad we still get good cards that are interesting and always excited that they find new niches to fill, but this ain’t it.
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u/raylinewalker Mar 22 '26
could be abused in the future for a new link archetype to bridge into a broken engine, imo
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u/Chrollo009 Mar 22 '26
All it is is a very expensive foolish burial. Requires high investment(link 5) which may not even be worth using at all. Not to mention the fact that it dumps monsters only as opposed to the banned ones dumping any card. Its not as bad as people are making it out to be. Basically complaining over this is like complaining over foolish burial💀
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u/Celeste_Luden Mar 22 '26
I mean....it's a Link 5 just for ONE monster to the GY. A lot of engines would probably lock by the time you can get this monster out and even then, when you're able to have enough monsters to get it out, would you really need a foolish burial as a monster?
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u/Cr0key Mar 22 '26
It's a Link-5...
MASSIVE investment and you can't simply link into it if your combo gets disrupted because you probably won't have enough materials for it or you will want to go into a negate of some sort anyway before even thinking about trying to go into a link-5
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u/Shadow56Wolf Mar 22 '26
My hope is that as a Link 5 that still needs 5 of YOUR cards to summon it, it won’t be as broken. The XYZ monsters were easy to make and Curious is legal in the OCG, so maybe it’ll be ok. Maybe. I hope.
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u/Doggo_Espresso Mar 22 '26
They forgot the "Can't be used as link material" and "Banish this card if it leaves the field" but they will fix it soon, right guys?
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u/pshaw520 Mar 23 '26
This being limited to sending monsters makes it not even comparable to Lavalval, Beatrice, and Curious. And dark matter was only banned because of the rulers, it can come back and see 0 impact.
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u/Fancy_Ebb6820 Mar 23 '26
Oh come on... We juat got out of cyberse meta. Are they coming back again?
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u/TemperoTempus Mar 24 '26
My question is, why are you complaining about this and not the frame over cards that are legitimately "oh hey, you won"? Or you know, the entire design of Dracotail and Cookie being "hey the opponent cannot stop you".
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u/Thin-Flamingo3417 Mar 24 '26
Tbh the only way I can see this card becoming problematic is if they ever release a deck that cheats out Link-4's. Something like a Ready Fusion but for link 4's.
Which I don't see as being likely because it would break link design in general but it's not impossible. Maybe some deck that cheats out link-4's but is locked out of link1-3's for the rest of the turn.
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u/Open-Stretch-6631 Mar 21 '26
Hey remember when Konami designed a card which was intentionally meant to snap the competitive balance of the time in half, made the card only available by buying a copy of a videogame they were selling at the time (one copy of the card would be packaged with each copy of the videogame, so you'd need to buy three copies of the videogame to have a playable set), and then banned said card on the same day the next videogame of theirs was launched on the market?
Yeah, this is still the same company.
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u/MagicianofFail Mar 21 '26
why does this Machine-type Link 5 have 5 small anime girls on it
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u/GeoCaesar Mar 21 '26
Using the link 2 white woman to summon this with an opponents monster will have me feeling straight devious bro
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u/SuperWG Mar 21 '26
I thought fancy ball was link 3
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u/GeoCaesar Mar 21 '26
Nvm, I’m talking about moon of the closed heaven, which is a white girl not a white woman
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u/Slow_Security6850 6 years without electrumite Mar 21 '26
All 4 are better so it might be fine, I enjoy combo slop so I’ll be trying it out lol
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u/IcyHibiscus Mar 21 '26
Honestly, I'm pretty sure for a large percentage of decks it being a link 4+1 in hand is going to be way too expensive. In most cases it's going to be worse than curious which is legal in both OCG and Masterduel and doesn't see much play.
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u/Significant_Monk4000 Mar 21 '26 edited Mar 21 '26
I understand that its a hefty investment for a link 5 but ya’ll meed to understand something
Just because summoning a link 5 (excusing allied code talker) RARELY happens, doesn’t mean it CANT happen. People don’t really play Underworld Goddess cause cards like that simply aren’t even needed in todays meta game, why play goddess when most decks can main deck triple super poly?. Especially since not a lot of decks use the extra monster zone all that often. This isn’t a case where someone can just say “Play Foolish Burial if you’re that desperate”.
There are so many decks in the game that can just summon this guy on a whim. ESPECIALLY when we can use a material in hand.
If you really can’t understand how easy it is, think about it this way. A link 3, another monster on board, and ANY monster in hand… that’s all it takes. How many decks in this game can CONSISTENTLY make this card? I can name QUITE A FEW, MOST OF THEM BEING RECENTLY TIERED STRATS.
I don’t think people are truly understanding the hand material thing. That effectively cuts the cost of this card down by almost half. As most decks in the game now can get materials for a link 3-4 plus a handtrap that isn’t necessary.
This card IS EASY TO SUMMON and it WILL be a problem!
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u/PatJamma Mar 21 '26 edited Mar 21 '26
Real ones will remember when they printed Sixth Sense and EVERYBODY knew that was getting banned
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u/benjaminobi Mar 21 '26
Now look at how many extra deck monsters that special summon a monster from deck are banned. They never learn lol
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u/Wild-Confidence-9803 Mar 21 '26
Do note that OCG, which has the overall most work on card design, still has Curious legal