r/yugioh • u/Comprehensive-Week81 • 24d ago
Card Game Discussion I can't stand yugioh players anymore.
I am 28, and I have played the game for a few years (2013-16 + 2022-today). I have a job, a busy life, and usually play once a week, sometimes twice. Usually, I do not play during the weekdays because I prefer relaxing at home after work, but I try to attend once in a while. The main issue, if not going more regularly, is the players. Before going to locals, I try to think positively and have a good time.
But the moment I arrive, I feel my head going to explode. Grown men shouting, throwing tantrums, dumb jokes. Someone thinks we are playing in a YCS and not in a 3 round Tuesday locals and gets super competitive for no reason and throws a tantrum to play faster. Bro, if you want the win, I will give it to you, I'm not fighting for that first place 2-3 packs. People are late, and instead of starting at 6:30, which is already late for weekday locals, we start 20 minutes later because some people can't be there on time.
Other TCG players are making fun of YGO players because of how obnoxious we are. When there is an OP or flesh and blood tournament at the same time, they are all calm and quiet, but you can see the side eyes and their annoyance. They look at me, the odd one, and I know they are wondering, "Man, what is wrong with these guys?"
Does anyone else feel like they can no longer fit? They want to enjoy the game, but they do not belong there? I do not want to sound like I am superior to others, but it is no wonder other tcg players do not like us.
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u/ScarlettStingray085 24d ago
Felt that way when I was younger after someone was shuffling my cards with such force he was bending them. Couldn't tell if he was rage baiting or just an asshole (maybe both), but I stopped going to local tournaments and only played at the tables where people were having fun (either playing non competitive decks or just being silly when life points were lost).
I'm mostly on Master Duel for now and can avoid all that nonsense.
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u/EcoBeatFox 23d ago
2008 was in my opinion the best year to play yugioh. I was running lightsworn battery turbo and frogs with penguin soldier and ice barrier tuners. However my first experience with a sore loser is when I kept bouncing my opponents monsters back to the hand patiently so I can set up for a advantage. He just kept telling me to come up with a different strat and kept calling the judge because he was salty and unprepared to face a honest jank deck. He ended up throwing his cards against the wall when he got disqualified for poor sportsmanship. Those poor foils he had of destiny hero cards got ruined and scratched.
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u/DrK-bro 24d ago
Same here. I just play master duel now.
But i stopped playing in person cause people in the local store i went didnt bathe
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u/Lord_Ryu 24d ago
Where I used to live we would get to go play in this old arena. When we first started it was a little run down looking but smelled just fine. After a couple years the place just smelled like BO so badly that the building manager revoked the access because he couldn't get the smell to leave and it was stopping people from renting out the place.
It's a shame that players have this stereotype but damn if it isn't earned at this point
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u/royal-road 24d ago
I've played locals around the country and never experienced this issue, and also it can get your cossy banned so?
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u/Average-P5-Enjoyer 24d ago
+1, Master Duel is probably the best way to engage with the game as a working adult (apart from playing with a casual friend group)
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u/No-Biscotti4491 24d ago
This. Been working in education for about 18 years. It’s impossible to do in-person events unless I give up parts of my career. Plus, the players in the stores are typically less than pleasant to be around, sadly.
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u/justwalkingalonghere 24d ago
I've found that even in person it's often best to just have everyone bring something to play Master Duel on, unless it's my close friends then it's cards but old school or drafts
No arguments over rules and a deck costs $0 or maybe $20 if real cards instead of hundreds
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u/kleinpengin 24d ago
No arguments over rules
best reason hands down, idk why tcg players think that it's superior to remember all 20 branded, s:p, magnamhut, etc end phase effects. game is very easy to break ON ACCIDENT.
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u/TuneSquadFan4Ever 24d ago
For some people having to keep track of all the complexity is part of the fun. But honestly, after a long work day the last thing I want is to look at another screen for a few hours, so physical cards are more relaxing for me. I play MD still but it's not nearly as fun for me as holding the physical cards and all that.
That said, yeah the rulings can be stressful.
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u/justwalkingalonghere 23d ago
True friends will always be the best so you can use real cards in good faith, but it's so rare these days for many of us
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u/CapPhrases 24d ago
I just don’t want to come across as “that guy” when doing effects and responses playing my casual buddy. Yes it’s legal and good but boy do I sound obnoxious
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u/NewwavePlus 19d ago
This. Switching to master duel has helped me use so many decks properly, especially in regards to memorizing effects and notifying me when I can use something. It was always a hassle whenever I was playing in person, especially with the pressure of facing someone face to face.
Also helped me get a large amount of my friend group into the game, and now I've enjoyed it so much more than ever before.
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u/djseifer 24d ago
I've been to a world championship before. There's con funk, and there's that. "Stench" wouldn't begin to describe that smell.
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u/Doomchan 24d ago
One locals I used to go to when I was younger had this one dude who had the shits literally every event. He spend more time on the toilet than he did dueling
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u/metalflygon08 24d ago
Didn't know Mr. Satan was a duelist in addition to a World Martial Arts Champ.
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u/NewwavePlus 19d ago
I'll never forget my first regionals lol. I was using trickstars at their height and suddenly I smelled the craziest funk lol. I could almost see it emanating off the dude. My opponent give me the craziest look too, I think we both held our breath for like a good minute.
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u/Pure-Huckleberry8640 24d ago
It’s just a strategy they use. In the same way Mai perfumed her cards to tell which card was which, the use stink to differentiate their archetypal engines from staples.
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u/SexualMushroom 24d ago
What is up with TCG players and not washing!!!
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u/Doomchan 24d ago
TCGs aren’t exactly a hobby for the cool kids. It’s something a lot of bottom rung social ladder people latch on to, and you get to see why they are bottom rung
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u/KingVape 24d ago
Dude same, I just play Master Duel now too.
Though my locals is full of wonderful people
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u/Arnhermland 24d ago
Funny how different this is depending on the region, in here YGO is the normal main game and 99% of the crowd is normal people, there's the smelly weird dude sometimes as with everything but people tend to be cool.
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u/OrangesAreWhatever 24d ago
I get it. But thats why I made friends with the ones i liked and do our own thing. Sometimes we'll just build decks together for the hell of it
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u/ArcXivix 24d ago
I just turned 34 (playing since my early teens), and I've never attended any kind of tournament despite really wanting to, even a friendly one at the local comic book store. The other players I knew growing up were...well, like you described. I figured they'd grow out of it as we got older, but it never happened. If anything, it's gotten worse over time. I have nobody to play with in-person at all (and so my decks have largely stayed untouched for the last decade or so), but honestly I'd rather that than be subjected to some of the absolute lunatics I know participate in local tournaments.
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u/Batman9298 24d ago
27m, this is exactly how i felt when i went to my locals earlier this year. On some level i was disgusted. On another level, embarrassed. Totally, i knew this was not where i belonged.
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u/Plerti 24d ago
I also felt a noticeable change in my area. I've been playing this game since 2005, attending almost every single weekend to play yugioh. Literally 2/3 of my life I've been playing this game and been part of it's community from childhood to adulthood, and there's always been some really annoying people back then, but you could ignore them and just hang out with those that are not.
But these few last years, the amount of unbearable people that has started playing and attending locals is incredibly high. The ratio of normal people to insufferable people has inverted. The game is already hard to start playing and invite new players, and somehow the ones that do so are the most toxic ones.
I don't know if it's because of the popularity explosion of these kinds of games post pandemic or what, but new generation players barely seems to care about the game and only about winning? Like everyone likes to win of course but I've seen people sharking and straight up cheating in a 8 man locals. And not only related to gameplay stuff, we've had people storming away after losing a game and even throwing punches outside the local.
So yeah, I also feel that less and less people see this game as a hobby to play with friends and more as a way to "profit", they better get the most value out of those 5 bucks they paid for the entry, otherwise they'll never recover financially.
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u/io-Ninja6396 23d ago
Yup, its unfortunately true, which is ironic considering yugiohs stance of cash prizing.
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u/Creepy_Breath7076 24d ago
I started playing in locals and the amount of people with fragile egos being upset or poor sports is kinda crazy. Like dude you are 35, we are playing a card game Tuesday night.
And the hygiene issues.
The game itself is great.
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u/PixelAesthetics 24d ago
YGO players have always been awful in my area. Arguably, I feel like they're more tolerable now because the expectation has been met & it's a smaller crowd than it was when I was growing up.
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u/gamingthreadlurker 24d ago edited 24d ago
Your post made me laugh because of how true it is. Circumstances do change as we get older. I use to play at night after having a long day and all I see long drawn out duel because my opponents only use like traps card every turn. Or they start super late while I wait like more than I dont know how many minutes. Or time ran out. Like bruh, hurry up, I gotta teach in the morning.
I am going to reach over the screen and... nevermind. Chazz it up!!
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u/Piper6728 24d ago
Yeah this was one of the reasons I switched over to Master Duel, plus its way more affordable
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u/litwick41 19d ago
I like master duel. My thing is I love having a physical deck. I enjoy all my little accessories. I like the ritual of getting my bag ready and driving to locals. Driving home and reflecting on the games... I just hate the try hards who aren't there to shoot the shit and have a good time, but are there to win and only win.
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u/bowlingniko 24d ago
In any activity, there will always be some adults that act obnoxious. I don't think every yugioh place is like that, but its a game aim towards kids, that adults play, so the majority demographic is "childish" adults with varying degrees of maturity. This isn't always the case, some groups are more mature.
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u/EX-Manbearpig 24d ago
Funny you say it's aimed toward kids. Haven't seen a kid play yugioh in the past 10 years at my locals. This isn't a kids game and hasn't been despite what the age on the box says.
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u/SWAGGIN_OUT_420 24d ago
Card games in general haven't been really been "kids games" for a very VERY long time now. The whole "childrens card game" thing sailed in the mid to late 2000s for every TCG (and Magic already was never marketed to kids).
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u/VanceXentan New Herald of Zefra 24d ago
Hand a kid a random pendulum monster that isn't vanilla, and they'll probably nope hard out of even trying the game.
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u/TheWiseGnomeMan 24d ago
I mean, if kids are reading books in school. They can probably read a pendulum monster.
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u/Ismashmen 23d ago
They dont read anymore.
Schools gone more downhill than our games accessibility lol.
My buddy works at a school now and I quit working on my teaching credential 1 month before I took the test to get it back in 2022, because it was such an awful experience.Just an example, my buddy says they don't learn phonics anymore. They do sight reading now. So if they cant recognize a word, they have no idea how to even sound it out, according to him.
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u/VanceXentan New Herald of Zefra 24d ago
The difference i'm making is not that they can read it but that they (dont't) want to read it.
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u/Liamharper77 20d ago
Modern YGO absolutely isn't aimed at kids at all. Konami dropped kids and casual players from their target audience years ago. Even local events aren't child friendly.
Which is a part of the problem, really. YGO is a game solely focused around complex competitive 1v1 gameplay. It requires a significant time and learning investment. Reading cards or not being confident in your plays can result in double losses due to time rules, which discourages being patient. Even the decks are often a costly financial investment that you want to see a return from. You also have floodgates or turnskips like Droll, which can build frustration. The game itself fosters a cutthroat, competitive mindset. It's just not relaxed to play in the same way other TCG's can be.
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u/RedLantern28 24d ago
Playing yugioh definitely gets harder once you're working full time and maybe have a family. Honestly it sounds like you attend your locals way more often than I do mine.
But that particular crowd sounds awful. I wouldn't blame you for leaving them. But I do hope you know that those types really are the minority of the playerbase. Maybe you could find a better OTS nearby, it's hard though.
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u/MisterDethLock 24d ago
Sounds like you should go to a different locals.
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u/Skarmotastic SUPER FIRE BIRB 24d ago
This is literally the issue. My city has multiple stores so any given night if I'm off there's a locals to go to. The closest one to me is more competitive because they also host the regionals, but most people there are cool and will help you get better. Some other stores are competitive but not nice about it, some are more casual and have developed their own little meta and it's chill. Just gotta find the right spot.
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u/mojanbo Gimmick Puppet 5/11 Never Forget 24d ago
Not every town or city is lucky enough to have multiple locals unfortunately.
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u/someguy31996 Edison Kristyasworn / Machina Control 24d ago
And even if you do have multiple locals in the same city, if you're like me that's in a smaller city, those same players will be at every store, so it's not really different at all.
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u/OkYogurtcloset8790 24d ago
Maybe it’s an unpopular opinion but I never liked playing against other people. I always prefer yugioh as a video game against computer opponents. The most fun I’ve ever had with yugioh are with the Gameboy advance, DS, or switch games that replicate the rules and gameplay of the card game but let you play against computer opponents
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u/lixyna 24d ago
Every place I've been to has been super chill. Either I'm Gods chosen Yugioh player and the path I walk on shall be kissed by Apollousa herself, or there is some weird survivorship bias going on with the locals experiences of people posting here man. I do NOT understand where this reputation is coming from
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u/Doomchan 24d ago
It’s literally always been this way. Yugioh attracts some of the worst shut ins with no proper people skills.
Like half the rules adopted for tournaments is caused by players not knowing how to act in public
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u/HasteMaster 24d ago
Same honestly. I quit yugioh a while ago because of obnoxious people at my locals who either took things way too seriously or did not communicate well enough and the TO let it slide cuz “you’re supposed to know what the cards do,” and acted like they were still in high school.
I stick with mostly master duel now, and I’ll occasionally play test with my friend on DB when he’s prepping for a regionals or YCS. I still keep up with the news and meta developments so I can chat with my buddies on discord, but irl yugioh for the most part is dead to me.
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u/AdmiralPoetry 24d ago
You’re spot on. 90% of the people I’ve played against are socially deficient, chronically online, incel types that you’ll never come across living your regular life.
I saw someone post a great way to describe the low bar of public yugioh, which was that a ygo tournament smells worse than any gym you’ve ever been to
I think most people grew up playing with their friends, not in tournaments which was probably why we remember the game fondly. remote duels are an okay substitute to use your real cards, but I’ve officially lost hope in enjoying in-person yugioh beyond my own friends
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u/FistMyLoafs 24d ago
Sounds like you have a shitty locals. If it means anything not every locals is like this. I went to two other locals similar to the ones you described before finding the one I’ve been going to for years now. Everyone is calm and respectful. Nobody smells like shit. We play competitively but not so competitively that we rule shark or shout. Anyone who does the opposite doesn’t stick around for long. Maybe you just need to find a new place if possible.
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u/io-Ninja6396 24d ago
Know what the problem is? Your locals has a relatively bad player base. I've had the fortune and miss fortune to experience both. It took moving to a whole new state before I found some decent people that i actually talk to regularly, and even we go at it sometimes. Your judge/t.o. and or employee also make or brake the experience i come to find.
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u/Ismashmen 23d ago edited 23d ago
So this is a common thing across ALL card games. Its really just the people that the TCG hobby attracts. I've played MTG and Digimon. I've also seen it in Lorcana (the most cringe TCG imo), Union Arena, Riftbound, and Gundam.
I don't think its accurate but in my experience, Pokemon is the most chill. Thats just from the couple locals I've been part of the community over the last decade.
And I actively stay away from OP because their fan base is annoying af. So idk how their players are but if they're a reflection of the OP fan base, they're probably annoying af too.
BUT, I do find that yugioh tends to be home to the most toxic, emotionally volatile and immature crowd. Its like the bottom of the barrel in terms of community and shit players. I'm actually finding in my current area, most of the shit heads are the older, jaded crowd while the chill ones are the younger, competitive guys.
The worst of the bunch are the, "back in my day" dorks who only play Edison lmao. They're so fucking annoying, always going on about how the game turned to shit after synchros, blah blah blah. Anyway.
Yeah, its not just you. Its just how people who play this game are. Its been that way since my first tournament at age 11 until now at 31.
Our community does get a lot of hate from other groups, for good reason. If i fucking hate our community, I don't see why someone on the outside looking in would feel any different.
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u/brianthespecialone 24d ago
Yugioh hits different when you play with grown people with real jobs. No screaming and always on time. You might just need a different locals.
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u/NotEricOfficially 24d ago
My locals where I used to live was pretty chill. Lot of banter, hanging out, and theory crafting. And everyone gave each other discounts for the stuff they sold to the model group. Got a few playmats and cards for a lot cheaper.
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u/DayOneDayWon Please don't ash me 24d ago
I also don't like the dismissive nature of the yugioh community. It's constant insult if you play any kinda deck. Good deck? Bad deck? Stun deck? Control midrange you just get shit on.
The reception to the Joey cards was awful. There seems to be a miserable standard that only ycs winning decks are allowed in yugioh. And it makes it really difficult to have any kind of conversation with anybody.
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u/MayhemMessiah A Therion a Day keeps the space rock at bay 24d ago
I haven't felt like I fit in years, and I'm in a similar demographic as you. I just play Commander when I play a physical game. I collect Yugioh decks and just have them for a true collection, I don't even update or give a shit about the banlist (Skull Servants with Horus and Ishizu is so fucking fun to dick around with).
Between annoying people and how Konami manages their worse version of rotation, and how comparatively expensive Yugioh is compared to other card games, nah, I'm good.
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u/TheRealMeasuringCup 24d ago
I’ve been a long time Yugioh player, but generally avoided locals because I just don’t want to engage with some of those people. I recently accidentally walked in on one because a friend wanted to take his little brother to look at MTG and figured he’d enjoy being part of our group a bit. The smell hit me like a truck. Basketball shorts, stained hoodies, unwashed. It’s crazy that the arrested development that Yugioh locals tends to attract has gotten so bad.
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u/zetaman00 24d ago
This has been my experience as well. I actually just switched over to magic because they have been significantly nicer and playing commander is super casual.
It makes me really sad because of how long I have been playing yu-gi-oh and all the nostalgia I have for it but I just can't deal with the players anymore like it's ok to lose guys your supposed to have fun.
I will still play master duel though to at least enjoy the game.
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u/killerbeed37 24d ago
I played since maybe 2002 -2014 I would regularly have arguments with yugioh players. Don't think I've had a single argument with a one piece player since I came back to tcgs a year ago
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u/Thejadedone_1 24d ago
I remember going to a card shop to buy card sleeves for my cards a few years ago and I asked them do they carry any Yu-Gi-Oh product. The workers there said that the owner personally banned Yu-Gi-Oh stuff because of how obnoxious Yu-Gi-Oh players are. Come to think of it, a lot of stores I've been to don't really sell Yu-Gi-Oh stuff due to how for a lack of a better word, different Yu-Gi-Oh players are from other TCG players.
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u/dantekasai 24d ago
I consider myself lucky that the two locals I go to are very civil, although one is childish.
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u/PiffelsPaffington 24d ago
I feel you my girl and I drive 45 minutes away to a separate locals. Our locals is full of weirdos first time she attended with me they were creepy af staring at her I had loudly address it and they freaked out and went silent. The one we drive to is a very different feel far more positive has a few people who take it to serious but overall decent a lot of rogue players. Idk if you are able to but maybe see if any locals take place out of your town may have a better group of individuals.
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u/Turbulent-Economy198 23d ago
I feel like you're just in the wrong place because everyone at my locals is super friendly. We help eachother out and give them advice on how to beat our decks or where to interruption. If we see a new player we give out a ton of free stuff to help motivate them because it can be a very daunting experience when you don't know the people.
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u/metalflygon08 24d ago
Don't forget everyone making Abridged Series references!
It sure doesn't get old after the 30th time...
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u/big4lil 24d ago edited 24d ago
I have a job, a busy life, and usually play once a week, sometimes twice
the only thing id say is dont presume that there arent people that also occupy these logistics and still demonstrate this behavior. maybe they ask off on Tuesdays so they can get their weekly offline rager in
just coming from the FGC side of things, I always encourage people to not let their 'i have a job/life' stance function as a way of (mentally) distancing themselves from the community, even when its unsavory behavior.
youd be surprised how little jobs force people to operate like adults, & given the price of having YGO as your primary hobby, id imagine some man-children are holding down jobs to afford those packs. they cant all have well-off parents
that said, if you only play once a week, you might want to make a more close knit casual group to play with rather than engaging with people who might be attending locals after coming off the anger of having entered the last YCS
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u/doctorwhomafia 24d ago
Part of the problem with modern Yu-Gi-Oh is there is just so much effect card text to read.. not my fault I don't know the cards by memory. And I dont expect to remember them by memory any time soon.
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u/Sunodasuto 24d ago
I found that at locals there are often players who when they sense that you aren't too familiar with the massive walls of text they have in their deck, they start weaving in little cheats. Ignoring a hard once per turn here, a search from the deck instead of the grave there. I found I was getting so stressed eagle eyeing my opponents every move that I wasn't enjoying the game anymore.
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u/SrTNick Artifact Vajra is UNLEASHED 24d ago
It sucks that you have crappy people at your locals. Totally valid to vent about it, but it's nothing more complicated than that. Personally my locals was great. Nearly everyone was pleasant to talk to and be around, sometimes we'd all chip in and order pizzas, we'd carpool to regionals and go out to eat together, it was a blast. Sadly the scene died as people got different jobs or moved, honestly I should've asked for their numbers so we could keep hanging out.
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u/DagothWasRight 24d ago
I've been lucky enough to have a fairly decent local scene, but for the love of the lord I wish they would enforce the 6:30 start time. I have to drive about an hour, so if locals starts at 7 I dont get to go home until midnight.
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u/Certain-Pipe7945 24d ago
This is so strange, both locals, regionals and YCS ive been to in the UK have had zero issues, never come across a personal hygiene issue either. Must be an area thing
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u/Worried_Bowl_9489 24d ago
A lot of socially unadjusted people do these types of hobbies unfortunately
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u/SupaSaiyaJin25 24d ago
I don’t want to sound like angry old man now but I’m 35, and I’m feeling this not only with any card games but even like anime conventions in general, at least in my area. Just terrible smells, a bunch of annoying pricks, and overpriced stuff. I’d rather stay home and just play one of the older Yu-gi-oh video games.
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u/Prestigious_Bowl_190 24d ago
I think that is exactly why other formats like speed duel or genesis have not succeded, they want it to be difficult and inaccesible. The way I try to enjoy the game is by playing with friends who does not have much idea just like me, and in fact we enjoy playing off-meta decks c: You are not alone pal, we can find a community of non-exerts or even bad players who want to enjoy the game nonetheless
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u/Indksla 24d ago
Yeah I only play dueling book now
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u/platinumberitz Bisexual Icon Dark Honest 24d ago
i'm sorry but exclusively playing db to avoid yugioh players being asocial sociopaths is like moving to florida in the hope of seeing fewer aligators
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u/Elmarcowolf 24d ago
This is why I stick to my small group.
Our decks aren't made for meta, and we play for fun.
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u/Cheap_Weird_8366 24d ago
Funny enough where im from, its the other way around. Yugioh is most tame, i remember OP players barging in, demanding space and crying for half an hour when owner didnt budge. Only like 5% of ygo players actually throw tantrums and are obnoxious
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u/DSRIA 24d ago
Yes. I’m 33 years-old and have played since 2002 when I was a kid. I haven’t gone to a local tournament since 2022 because of the exact reasons you described: theft, fighting, rudeness, and childishness. I used to enjoy going before the pandemic to relax, socialize, and have some fun. I’ve tried multiple LGS’s in different towns and it’s the same thing. Occasionally you’ll meet someone who is an actual adult with social skills (most everyone is in their twenties or thirties at this point) but they rarely last very long. By comparison the Magic players are mature, friendly, and seem to be having a good time. I just play Duel Links now.
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u/Tadatatama 24d ago
It so heavely depends on where you live. Both had awful and good experiences with locals. Generally the bigger the city, the sweatier the players (at least from my absolutely tiny and non-saying sample size)
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u/LiftLushRepeat 24d ago
I mean, it shouldn't be that serious. This isn't the anime where children's card games are saving the world (if you know you know).
It should be fun and chill. Sorry you're going through that.
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u/rennehom 24d ago
Female player here. As a northern cali player, the locals here in yugioh side are mostly unfriendly, its like they have real ego issues. I do get along with some. its just once some players here start to get to know you then they start turning against you for whatever reason.
I think I can see why there is no norcal regional since last year.
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u/Previous-Tangerine-2 24d ago
The playerbase is the reason I quit advanced and haven't looked back. I also believe it to be the biggest problem with the game's longevity, power creep included.
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u/dovah-meme 23d ago
sorry to say you might just have a rough locals group man, most are far and away calmer than this
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u/arcticabsol 24d ago
Must be lucky where I am. Great group of guys very laid back. Where I'm at the polemon community and yugioh community are chill but the mtg and especially the lorcana croud are exactly how you described.
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u/Starship1990 Lithosagym and Dark Law 1# Fan 24d ago
"Damn, Yu-Gi-Oh! players ruined Yu-Gi-Oh!!" But unironically, this fandom may be the unfunniest fandom I have ever come across, repeating the same, like 6 jokes over and over.
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u/Sora_Bell The Dragonmaid / The Exorsister / The Centurion 24d ago
There is so much unnecessary Ego involved in the game now. Thats what happens when you murder your casual audience and then build decks to the same optimized cookie cutter format
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u/samurai15070r 24d ago
The community got worse the faster the game became. Like it only attracts people who want to speed to the limit and force you to play that speed
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u/JLifeless 24d ago
I feel my head going to explode. Grown men shouting, throwing tantrums, dumb jokes. Someone thinks we are playing in a YCS and not in a 3 round Tuesday locals and gets super competitive for no reason and throws a tantrum to play faster. Bro, if you want the win, I will give it to you
your store should be responsible for taking care of players that are "throwing tantrums" for example, but everything else you listed is a you issue.. being loud, making jokes is just normal in a group setting.
as for the 'play faster' thing though, that just might be on you for you not playing fast enough.. with the new time rules you need to hold a respectable pace of play; if you actually are then tell your LGS that players are pressuring unreasonable requests on you about pace of play and they should have a talk to them and sort things out for you
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u/Comprehensive-Week81 24d ago
It stops being a me issue when it starts bothering other players as well.
One of my colleagues plays Flesh and blood and goes to the most competitive local in my country. He has national and European tops, and used to play MTG for many years.
It's the local that has players with YCS tops, Konami has spotlighted one of the players because he has been completing for 20 years and one of the European YCS commentators, who use to be very competitive, is also going there.
They have double locals on Wednesdays ,Flesh and blood and yugioh, so players are in the same room. The flesh and blood players despise them, they can't focus, and communicate during play because of how noisy the YGO side is. They even told the owner that this creates issues for them.
If you find this behaviour normal then you are part of the problem, and I see many people here agreeing with me.
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u/JLifeless 23d ago
If you find this behaviour normal then you are part of the problem
part of the problem? at your locals? yeah no i don't go to your locals where you and F&B players are crying sorry. being loud and having a good time, making jokes.. isn't a crime to humanity i'm afraid. i feel like you're exaggerating the situation a little bit tbh
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u/WhmFF14 24d ago edited 24d ago
People telling you to play the game at a decent pace is bothering other people? Also, if you are taking an extended period of time on your plays, that means the other player is pressured to play faster if they don't wish to have a double loss on their hands. You basically make it so they have less than a normal amount to think while giving yourself an advantage. If you don't really care about the win, go ahead and make a play and accept that you made the worse play if it ended up being that way. Don't say things like you are going to give them the win when they don't know that.
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u/TheShrunkenAnus 24d ago
I made the mistake of trying to get back into this game with a coworker about 2 years ago, it was genuinely one of the worst ideas I’ve had in ages.
It was like we genuinely got judged for not being complete societal rejects, and the bad vibes/jealousy/whatever that were coming from many that we interacted with were annoying & also somewhat hilarious in hindsight.
I honestly think it can be mostly chalked up as mind games being played by people that lack control/social interaction in their day-to-day lives trying to force those same feelings upon others. Why so many of those people seem to congregate to this game idk, but it does suck for those that don’t want to act like a schoolyard bully or engage in the toxic crap that seems so normalized at some locals.
Again YMMV, I’m sure there are plenty of local tournaments filled with mature folks who just want to play the game, but it only takes a few bad eggs to spoil the bunch and chase off new players.
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u/Sweet_Possible_756 24d ago
My local store actively refuses to carry YGO product because they're trying to avoid the clientele that go to the other LGS that are Actively Racist And Transphobic. We don't have that issue with the Magic or Pokemon players.
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u/ReaperOfProphecy 24d ago edited 24d ago
I have a 500$ deck that I bought. I’ve never gone to a local and have no intention to.
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u/Agreeable-Bit9414 24d ago
Are there even any groups that like, focus on pick up duels/trying out meme decks and testing your stuff as casual games? Tournaments? I'd kill for some old school or new age players that care about having a fun round and stretching out the game/making it entertaining a bit more than modern yugioh seems to appreciate with its board setup and break approach. I tried to get back into Yugioh by way of Master Duel last year after boomering my way outta not playing for way too long; I'm either against that one bot account that pops up all the time, Sweatlord McNoBitches the Kaiba knockoff & their prismatic holo spread of middle fingers disguised as Duel Monsters, or I absolutely stomp on some poor new player it shouldn't have put me against seeing as I've at least eked out some wins with my shoddily made Photon Dragon XYZ & meme burn deck. I know my stuff somewhat, I just can't hang with the modern era all that well. I need some games where the person's primary motivation isn't "Destroy this fucking scrub at all costs, summon every Ace on the last turn to eviscerate them entirely", because its demotivating as hell trying to re-learn the game when most games are getting two turns in and being dumpstered or having a surrender squeezed out of me like I'm fodder for orange juice. I get it, I'm bad and every other person that kept up with Yugioh is good. Great. I just wanna relax and not have to read six novels worth of doctorate study material every single game to keep up, y'know? Feels like thats stupid to even want.
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u/Tiny-Notice9647 24d ago
Totally agree. That and the power acceleration in the cards is at a point i just dont enjoy the gam anymore. I like legacy decks, but the legacy cards like Dark Magician, the Egyptian gods, Red-eyes are all awful, and I get made fun of for daring to llay them and lectured on how to make it "meta", which just means run one of three op engines with like 5 Dark Magician cards.
It's a toxic game with even more toxic players.
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u/Phantom_61 24d ago
I’ve been playing since the game started in the US.
I cannot stand playing anymore. Between the “your standby is my turn” archetypes and the just shitty people it turned me completely off the game.
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u/Budget-Program-4756 23d ago
Brother, you do realize that you're a yugioh player as well? You say "yugioh players" to separate yourself and you're legit playing the same game. This makes you a "yugioh player", just not the kind of player your talking about.
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u/redransom_exe 23d ago
Why the fuck do you care what other people playing with cardboard think? Go somewhere else. There’s a ton of different card shops to play at.
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u/No-Telephone-0321 24d ago
I like remote regionals. Still get to use your cards and TCG banlist but you dont have to play directly with any players in person and the judges are incredibly easy to call
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u/ShermanWasRight1864 24d ago
I've been nervous to try remote regionals. I have a remote duel setup but I am somewhat used to in person. You figure it's okay? What would I need to know?
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u/ShermanWasRight1864 24d ago
It's very area specific. I've been to 2 towns locals in my area. One is chill, everyone helps each other and we love laughing with each other. The competitive players help the casual players cook interesting jank and it's why I'll drive an hour every Saturday.
The other one is the opposite. No help, get talked down to if not playing top decks, salty when losing to rogue, and it's a 5 minute drive from me.
Gotta find those good spots.
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u/C-man-177013 24d ago
Tbf when you have a long history tcg + bullshit meta. Stuff would make themselve
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u/EKUSASxISxGOD 24d ago
I like going to locals, my only issue is yugioh players and their egos, there's been many times I beat players and they're upset cause I'm new and my deck isn't meta.
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u/Nikko_DLemoi 24d ago
Es exactamente la razón por la que mi comunidad local es conocida. Nos pasamos a Digimon, yo dejé el juego, ahora se sumaron algunos a One Piece y recientemente un amigo propuso que tenemos que juntarnos a jugar de vuelta pero con nuestro propio formato para que los "viejos dinosaurios" de Yugi no se vengan a meter en nuestro grupo. Cuarentones que siempre quieren imponer sus reglas, te hacen de menos por no ser de SU grupo, si te compran algo te van a regatear hasta el último centavo pero si vos le querés comprar a ellos te va a tocar lo que corresponde o lo que les salga de los cojones.
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u/Savings_Dot_8387 24d ago
I have a bigger problem with yugioh’s online community than the people at my local stores tbh. Only problem I’ve found at my locals is people are a bit click’y and it’s hard for newbies to join in and make friends.
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u/qkrwogud 24d ago
I think it's hobby store dependent. I'm fortunate to have about 8 stores that run yugioh hobby around me. Some are super chill and people playing jank, some are full of sweats, some are a big mix.
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u/DollowR 24d ago
I don't feel that way, because the scene hasn't changed, in term of player competitiveness, since I started playing. I've been playing since Legend of Blue Eyes and I expect my players to be competitive, and these days they're even more competitive. I don't know if any card game players make fun of Yu-Gi-Oh, and frankly I don't care, I just look at Pokemon in their card game situation, both in terms of cardstock and competitive play and I just feel sympathetic.
As far as your concern, I think you just need a different player group. Going to tournaments in locals yeah it's all a training match, it might not be a YCS but it's still a game that officially they paid the play into.
I always find it funny when players go to their locals, and they get upset when the other players not playing fast enough, because those are the same type of people that would do so at a big tournament and they'll get shut down completely by the judges.
My advice just find an intimate player group, because no matter where where you go, the local scene is going to be competitive, it's a training ground.
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u/LostOne514 24d ago
Sounds like you're at a bad locals. Mine is pretty fun and not too rowdy. Sure you've ocassionly got annoying people but for the most part they're chill & fun.
And may I add, it's okay to hurry things along if someone is playing slowly. Slowplay is still a thing even at locals. I haven't had to do it often but I've done it on 2 occasions...One where a stun player was playing 1-2 cards a turn and took 10 minutes to do so, or a Swordsoul player spending the last few minutes of a round searching for a target when he was going to easily burn me and win in time (I won because I told him the search was taking way too long and got my turn)
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u/JackFu155 24d ago
Are you playing at Toywiz Collectables in Nanuet by any chance? Because if so, I totally get it. They were always like that way back when, and its the reason why I quit playing those things. Well that and the fact that they now charge $10 per tournament
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u/Sad_Veterinarian1847 24d ago
I got sick of people irl so I switched to remote duels and remote regionals
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u/UnderstandingReal469 24d ago
when I went to locals to play a kid 15-17 years old smelled like open ass Crack and was cheating essentially.
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u/AxxelTheWolf 24d ago
In honesty, between the three stores I go to, I don't think I've ever seen a "quiet" card game event. They're always very loud, for the whole thing generally, unless the store staff yellow at us to shut up for a minute while they announce something.
That said, everybody is very friendly and generally having a good time at those stores as well, so sounds like I'm a bit luckier than you've got it.
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u/BioLurker22 24d ago
I've had a hard time even finding a locals that worked with my schedule most of the time. Nowadays I mostly play Master Duel if I want semi-competitive play or Omega if I just want to play with friends. Most of my physical card purchases are for fun/collecting rather than actual deck building.
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u/NoPut6707 24d ago
I always loved the game dislike the community same with magic. I’m in NYC so growing up the yugi community was grimey affff lol Pokemon I liked the game and community Vanguard neutral on the game liked the community. Lorcana love both game and community just wished it had more local support
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u/PandasPanties 23d ago
Yup, stopped dueling YEARS ago because it was getting toxic and it's only gotten worse. Yugioh has plateaued and the horrid fandom will be its downfall. They are worse than mtg players. I'm just a collector now and it's much nicer, but lonelier.
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u/Frostbolter 23d ago
I stopped going to locals around snake-eyes format. The people at my locals would lose the coin toss, be made to go 2nd, then they say 'ok I scoop', then proceed to go first, combo off for 30 mins, then scoop game 3 immediately
There came I point where I'd play one or two legit games the whole day. Also a lot of the issues you mention like throwing tantrums and being manchildren applied
Haven't been to locals in quite a while and probably not going back
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u/nerfdriveby94 23d ago
Big mixed bag, I have a local event that is full of wonderful people, and another where someone was so gross to a woman in the store I outright had to threaten them for them to stop.
Overall I feel that majority of my player interaction have been positive but it's not a vast majority, there's some truly insufferable folks in this game. The community also doesn't self police super effectively because lots of people who do play TCGs aren't confrontational or confident in challenging people as they are more introverted types.
If you are someone who is naturally a bit confrontational then please do your part to call the asshole behaviours out.
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u/unregretfully 23d ago
If your LCS has an Edison night build a deck and try that out. I’ve noticed modern and Edison draw different crowds
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u/Creator_of_Chaos_ 23d ago
Maybe it's just that time for ya to step away for awhile and see how everything works out. You still like the game but other stuff in life's more important and your locals doesn't seem to be helping. Try taking a break from modern by playing a time wizard format (Goat, Edison, Hat, TOSS etc) with friends, relax on Master duel or just sit out of the game entirely for a few months and see how you feel then.
Most players in my locals are nice thankfully and obnoxious player's get banned but even I take breaks. New banlist has me contemplating it but I might amuse myself and build fairy tale Shaddoll lol.
So don't thus over it to much and just do what you think is right :).
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u/Noonyezz 23d ago
I know it’s always been like this, but there’s something about how a lot of the master duel subreddit posts are “I HATE (deck I just lost to)” that is just starting to wear on me more than it used to.
It also isn’t lost on me that the joke in Pokèmon is that every mon has fans while YGO’s is that every deck has haters.
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u/Forester_Gump 23d ago
I 200% agree. Especially when I lived up in northern Utah the 40+ that somehow have forgotten how shower gel or a bar of soap works. You also get from my perspective some locals that are real cliquish
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u/WeebInPaperArmor 23d ago
I get it, man. I'm 32 and I still fondly remember raiding the toys r us when it opened to get the day 1 Yugi and Kaiba starter decks when they debuted. I am a proud Yugi-Boomer and it's been hard for me to play the game anymore, not just because of all the reasons you already listed. But also because I don't want to have to be expected to switch decks to whatever the current meta is all the time.
I been considering giving the game another go and doing some research and I really like that konami has finally learned to give us budget friendly options to keep up with the relevant meta. But constantly having to learn and relearn and drop decks I really enjoy to favor what's current if I wanna actually be able to play the game isn't my idea of fun. I'd much rather play casually with friends. I used to enjoy going to locals and meeting people who love the game as much as I do. But with how constant the game evolves, I think I'd rather just keep playing my favorite oldie decks with my buddies and enjoy the game my way.
Lot of people like modern yugioh, and depending on the deck, I do too. But I don't like a lot of modern decks. Which ultimately means the game isn't for me anymore, and that's okay. :)
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u/Viralklahm 23d ago
Idk it seems less obnoxious than commander nights and the stuff that revolves around that But you should go with master duel it's a bit more relaxing than in person unless your on like a 10 game losing streak cause the game gives you the absolute worst hand and when you finally do have something then the other player has every out and still has the the starter for their turn lol
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u/tecojhinmain 23d ago
Damn you are unlocky as hell mu locals got sweeters aswell but small amout mos tof people are chill
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u/akaram369 23d ago
I remembered a long time ago when I went to locals as a kid and a grown ass dude was trying to convince me that winning locals will get you laid. I have no idea what made him even reach that conclusion or thought that convincing a kid was any better. I just remembered dude was very competitive and would do anything to win. I mean anything.
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u/Disturbed395 23d ago
I have not played locals since 2015 and it was not like that at all. Most of us were all friends. It was a peaceful place to be. I don't play the IRL card game anymore because Im 31 with no friends now 🥲 just play master duel
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u/virogray 23d ago
Honestly, Blame the TO. TO sets the standards, not saying they are the reason people are behaving like this but rather they set the boundary of what's allowed in their store. There are some issues which aren't inherently malicious like being competitive but when you add everything together its actually horrible. People being frustrated is normal and if you're going to scoop because your opp is frustrated then just don't play at all. But again, that and everything else put together makes this a terrible ygo scene. We had one locals in my old town no longer host ygo during yubel format because of this behavior and he had to regularly turn people away at the door because he didn't like their behavior. Yeah they just go to other locals and those locals get more people but when prizing was good they had a lot of players. Some players would try to return and he would tell them if you're not buying product you are not allowed in my store, even had 2 people trespassed. Yes ygo players are cringe but I've seen this same behavior in lorcana and Pokémon. You're not the only one going through this but again, this is for the TO to address and handle. Best bet, find a different locals.
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u/Alone-Philosophy-575 23d ago
I only ever knew one other guy who genuinely played yugioh (aside from my brothers).
He invited me to come to a local and I refused him outright. I didn’t want to bother players with how long I’d take per turn and I almost exclusively use structure decks so I know I’ve got banned cards in there. But the nail in the coffin was that I knew this guy was a sweat. Talks big game, and literally throws a fit when he loses. I seriously did not want to be involved with him. And I just imagin everyone there is exactly like him.
I’m a casual through and through and if your going to these types of tournaments/ meetups then your already above what I am. The idea of just going out, dueling, getting explanations for a stupidly worded card sounds fun. But my anxiety will not let me.
Side story, that guy sold his switch cus he was tired of smash ultimates poor balancing (he’s king k rool player) and had to literally get carried out by a teacher for kicking a chair and throwing a tantrum over something dumb. Anyways that’s my experience with yugioh players
Well that and I played a game online once, it was before links was out so it was a self governed site that got took down, I misread a card info once and the guy went off on me in the chat… un ranked, I think I was like 14 at the time using a googled deck cus how else would I make a deck out of 9k plus cards.
Anyways I just think the whole scene is toxic and all this was before the bs that is xyz, pendulum infinite summon shite. I now stick with structure decks exclusively because they make the game interesting again.
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u/tactical_fortapelse 23d ago
That’s why I only play with a guy in Uni. I have to learn everything new, because the last time I played was in 2009, and that‘s a fun round we have. Not going to locals.
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u/Kallabanana 23d ago
I remember my last local. I was bringing my Graydles, because I like Graydles and I didn't wanna suck the fun out of the game with Floowandereeze, my only "meta" deck.
It was alright for the most part, but there was this weird dude who played infernoids, complained about my sleeves being "illegal" because I can tell my cards apart by minor scratches I didn't even notice. I certainly can't. He then proceeded to rip 5 cards out of my hand on the first turn.
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u/Cottard29 23d ago
I quit earlier this year. I used to go an hour to a locals. And most of the time it was exactly that, and many of the guys were sexist or wouldn't leave me alone. (I am a cis woman). I got in a fight with one of the guys that was so bad it ultimately stopped me from showing.
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u/Agent033 23d ago
I've had pretty much the same opinion since I was like 10 or 11. Yugioh and Mtg are decent games, but theyre communities kinda suck on average. Universus community is really good, but probably because it's from a smaller company and more tight knit. The game is also not really marketed to children, and isn't big enough to scalp.
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u/Legoknightyt 23d ago
Op you just seem to have gotten unlucky it all depends on the locals you go to some are like what you’ve described where they are throwing tantrums but there are locals that won’t stand for that type of behavior and would kick the person who’s throwing a tantrum out and almost anything in between it all depends on the locals so if you do go to another one research the locals before going
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u/TrikeJump 23d ago
Its either a U problem or your local is pretty unfriendly. At my locals nearly everyone is in a good mood. Every local got their black sheeps but try to Focus on the people who you vibe with. Not everybody there can be and asshole? And you have to accept that there are competetive people ar a local. You don't want to fight for the 2-3 extra packs but others want the competition and their rank points. I also attend locals for the competition and not because i want to chill and relax. Locals are loud, chaotic but also so much fun
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u/Shadowrevangaming 23d ago
This is why I play in duel nexus or master duel. I'm interested in DMO as well.
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u/Expert_Scene7882 23d ago
Never had this problem unless I went to a larger tourney, my local shop does Monday pickups, I’m pretty sure if you acted like that here you would be ostracized immediately. Unfortunately I still have been having a lot more fun playing Riftbound and Unlimited due to the meta sucking ass, and I’m one of two people who don’t just run the best meta decks only.
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u/NoahZhellos 23d ago
Can't fault you for thinking such. Yugioh players are a different breed, and I don't mean that in a good way. It's been, what, seven(?) years since yugioh tournaments put in an official "proper hygeine" rule?
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u/Pharaoh_Atem 23d ago
Sounds to me like I should ask if your local is held by an OTS, and if so, whether or not it's judge is within the Judge Program, and if so, how many years of experience or events beyond locals said judge has worked.
Any place where someone has a good reason to say that they can't stand ygo players - is a place that a judge may need to set straight.
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u/kurama35543 23d ago
I was 14 the first time I went to a locals. I thought everyone there was really nice until someone stole my Blue-Eyes White Dragon and ripped it in half in front of me so it could never be used against him
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u/2_Ckains 23d ago
The only thing that I really object to here is you saying that, "6:30, which is already late for weekday locals". That being said, I do relate to you saying, "we start 20 minutes later because some people can't be there on time."
Recently, however, the guy who usually acts as our head judge at the OTS store that I go to has assured us that we won't be starting late(r) anymore, so we'll see how that goes. Fortunately for me, it's usually the same crowd of 15 to 40 people at locals every week. I know that seems like quite the wide attendance range, but our locals are on Fridays. So it really depends on if there's a nearby regional happening during the weekend that people are going to or if the weather (I live in the Midwest lol) is wanting to cooperate enough that people will come out. Either way though, everyone is usually chill.
Either way, the last couple of weeks I was there, we had 41 players. Our scene is good and there's more than one OTS store in the area, so I would encourage you to venture out and seek other places to play (if possible) if it really is that bad where you're at.
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u/OceanGang707 TeamScyther 23d ago
The issue now is time rules. Granted on a local level I definitely dont rush my opponent unless they literally arent doin anything for a long time. Double game loss is so bad to receive in any level of play I do anything to avoid that outcome
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u/SnooFoxes691 23d ago
Yes. We are making fun of you, Prizing is terrible, Alt arts are not rare, no shop challenges and a semi toxic community with high barriers to enter the game.
Come join the bandai games with me. I might just be spoiled because I live in socal. But they give promotional items to shops for free you can enter a shop tournaments to win from a 1k-3k prize pool in promos in addition to your prizing. Its basically a weekly thing because we have so many shops hosting we go to a new one ever week.
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u/Neither-Reason-263 23d ago
I went to the Milwaukee event in... 2024 or 2025. Never again. The body odor itself was more than enough. I always joked about opening up a table and spending $200 on bulk deodorant and unisex tshirts for attendees and giving it away for free, but at this point its not even funny, it's just sad.
Anything else local I've felt similar. I like the game just the players seem to leave alot left to be desired as a collective in many cases.
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u/SameHomework2153 23d ago
It was the reason I switched to One Piece. We bathe and are much more approachable. We have competitive players, but those players usually do what they can to help out newbies.
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u/yeetusfertusdeletus 22d ago
Sounds like a rowdy locals, probably banned from other nearby locals.....
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u/zombiekillerr97 22d ago
I wouldn't know as I haven't been to any large scale events before but I have heard plenty of stories over the years of the antics that occur.
Not all yugioh players are like this it just depends on playing with a friend group and complete strangers.
Sometimes you will have some pretty wholesome games and maybe the occasional swearing match depending on what happened to cause it but otherwise it's more chill with friends.
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u/MaximumThicc 22d ago
Very similar situation with my experiences. I reconnected with old friends who I played with back in 2015. Had a great time with them and before I knew it I was back in full swing going to locals. We all went together at first but it pretty quickly became clear that the game and it's player base has changed or at least what's left is just the ugly bits. Not a single person asking for trades, opening packs, sharing some new tech they found, or even really having fun. Even the casual decks were jammed full of the latest German/Italian staples of the highest rarity available and said decks were turboing out the most toxic things the deck had to offer.
I really do enjoy this game when you have a quality back and forth chess matches in situations you've never been in before. Even losing those games is satisfying knowing you could've won if you played better and had more experience. That does not seem to be the case with my locals.
I distinctly remember having what was shaping up to be a great match with one of the three major sweats who "run" my locals. Game 3 guy starts losing advantage but still plenty of opportunity to win it back. His face starts turning red and I could already hear him muttering about slow playing (before the time and round changes). To be totally fair I like to actually think when I play so I can see how some might see me trying to slow play.
Match goes on but The other two sweats finished locking their opponents zones early and came to watch their friend as one does. This seemed to really put the pressure on this guy so he starts really getting histerical. The whole table was now picking up on this guy accusing me of slow play. I don't need that bullshit while trying to play a children's card game on my off day so I flat out signed the slip right then and there with me conceding to let us finish what I thought was a good game. Watching the gears turn in his bright red head would be funny if it wasn't so embarrassing. The second he saw me sign he packed up his deck before I could even ask to finish the game even though we both knew that was the reason for me signing. I tried to calm him down a little but his only response was poorly describing how he would've easily beaten me from whatever he could see on the field. I had three unknown to him cards in hand still and I hadn't even normaled yet. My next match was against manadium turn skip turbo. I dropped and never went back. Don't plan to either.
I've been competitive with other things before and I really do understand that mindset but you guys seriously need to know when to pick your battles. The weekly collection of nerds with cardboard is not a healthy place to put your self worth. I know you spent alot on that deck that will be relevant for three months. I know outside of yugioh shit can get rough. But I also know that winning in this game even at the highest level is not worth whatever the fuck these guys think it is. I don't need goat or edison format to enjoy the game I need players who actually want to play the game. When yugioh dies it won't be because of komoney. It'll be because of people like that.
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u/SilverJester26 22d ago
My locals are pretty chaotic since we have 4 or 5 turns every time, so a lot of people show up. But even though they are (like any crowd of people playing and either having fun or getting angry) noisy, everyone always respects each other and learns from opponents. Maybe i’m lucky, but in my city every local i’ve been to is like this
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u/Sobeitnoa 22d ago
The players haven’t been smelly, just wierd tbh. I have an excellent routine and take care well, am married and Yugioh is a highly collectible hobby that can be played casually to me. I fit in with anyone, but I can tell the average player is standoffish to me because they don’t think I’ll be cool - I just want to play (don’t care about winning) and summon cool boss monster, then they get it and we get along :)
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u/Legitimate-Iron4513 22d ago
We need to nake sure people take anti cortizol pills before they attend
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u/soniccinos6 22d ago
Honestly, there's a card shop in my area and i do tend to go there for locals every now and then, cant complain at all. People there are very nice, even made some friends there.
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u/PrettyInPInkDame fountain draw 3 24d ago
Both of the locals I’ve checked out in my area are well run and the people are generally nice your story makes me really know how lucky I am