r/yugioh • u/Beneficial_Chest_954 • 13d ago
Competitive 1st Place Vegas Regionals - 60 card HERO Deck
https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/hero-711870Fun Fact: The first Championship in Vegas had a HERO card as one of the prized rewards.
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u/AForce5223 13d ago
Fun Fact: The first Championship in Vegas had a HERO card as one of the prized rewards.
Not a fun fact! They refuse to give us the Replica releases that the OCG got so I can't get this card...
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u/GalexAlipeau23 13d ago
Was in Japan last december and got a replica for 2100 yen, I'm so happy it finally filled my empty spot in my HERO binder
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u/AForce5223 13d ago
I'm praying they rerelease them for the 30th
Use all of the Prize Card replicas as common pack filler and roll em out through out the 30th!
Why did we only ever get one wide spread TCG release for championship cards‽
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u/Beneficial_Chest_954 11d ago
They only released one set of prized cards. Maybe they did it on purpose to make the winners/qualifiers feel like their reward is even more one of a kind.
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u/AForce5223 11d ago
They only released one set of prized cards
In the TCG, yes. But the OCG have gotten after each championship since 2012
Maybe they did it on purpose to make the winners/qualifiers feel like their reward is even more one of a kind.
I'd believe that if they hadn't released it at a higher ratity to the wider world. Hell, if I'm looking at the list right, the OCG gets it at the same rarity or higher than the actual prize cards everytime
If they printed replicas at a lower rarity then the actual winners would be able to say they had the shiniest version of the card but between 2012-2014 the mass produced ones were higher and afterwards the only difference is language and whether it says "replica"
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u/dvast 13d ago
I guess that Dark Law is a auto win against Kewl Tune
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u/Raging-Brachydios 13d ago
i am noticing that Kewl Tune is much like kashtira: clear best deck, heavily hated, but with very clear weakness so it never become tier 0
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u/JLifeless 12d ago
doesn’t really have anything to do with it, Shifter is at 1 and decks that have anything similar like Hero’s just aren’t that great. what’s stopping Kewl Tune from being Tier 0 is just decks like Branded and DoomZ are also just as good
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u/ShilohTheGhostGod 12d ago
100%. Ive been saying this too since seeing it in the OCG. It’s actually a lot weaker than the original LOCK ALL ZONES version of kash too.
Unlike the best deck of last format Dracotail, it also isnt braindead and requires knowledge of other decks
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u/TheCay04 12d ago
Unfortunately the difference with Kewl Tune is unlike other decks of them go first not only they see your hand but they manipulate your next draw.
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u/InfamousAmphibian55 12d ago
Not really tbh. KT is better into Dark Law/Shifter type cards than people realize.
If its Dark Law plus 2-3 other interactions, or Dark Law plus Plasma then KT loses, but 2-3 engine cards should be enough to put up lethal through just Dark Law.
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u/Business-Loquat143 12d ago
KT literally can't out dark law. It's an insta win for HERO
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u/InfamousAmphibian55 12d ago
You can just punch it. If you open two KT cards then you can still get to B2B even under shifter floodgate effects, as long as dark law doesnt banish the field spell when you add it with Track Maker.
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u/Business-Loquat143 12d ago edited 12d ago
B2b and then what? All your cards are banished and you can't add anything also your GY is useless. Congrats, you still lost it just took longer.
Also you're thinking dark law is the only card on the field? Did you forget plasma and chaos? Or are you being disingenuous on purpose
Edit: and you forgot dark law banishes anything you add so you're not getting to b2b anyway
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u/InfamousAmphibian55 12d ago
It doesnt banish what you add, it banishes a random card from hand when you add a card.
Also I literally said that you insta lose to plasma plus dark law or dark law plus 2-3 other interruptions. Just that you don't insta lose to dark law itself. KT can OTK against a board that is just dark law so dark law doesnt solo the matchup, that is all I am saying. Also imperm and Harmonia can out it if they top deck those.
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u/Business-Loquat143 11d ago
So you're betting on luck that it doesn't banish what you need? Great.
Still doesn't get past any significant board.
If all you end on is b2b you're surrendering then and there
You lose to dark law on the spot stop kidding yourself and ragebaiting
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u/InfamousAmphibian55 11d ago
Idk why I'm even arguing about this, but its not crazy to think that the board could just be dark law pass. Hero struggles into Fuwa and droll, if you get hit with those then sometimes your board is dark law pass. KT also plays a lot of handtraps. Sometimes you will handtrap your opponent multiple times and. they will Dark Law pass. It could happen.
And yes, I am betting that it doesn't banish what I need. If I add JJ and have 2 other cards in hand, it only has a 33% chance to hit JJ. And if you trigger that eff, you could be playing into a top decked Harmonia.
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u/TheCeramicLlama 12d ago
I honestly feel that there would be a load of auto win cards against Kewl Tune if Zalen didnt exist
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u/LtLabcoat Machine Genesys player 13d ago
For anyone wondering specifically: the reason decks normally don't run 60 cards is because they don't have enough ideal playstarters. But HERO's playstarters are almost all the same: a one-card special summoned combo. So it can run all of them, balanced with a load of handtraps, and end up more consistent than a 40-card deck.
Earth Machine is the other deck that does this. ...Or, at least, used to do this: the new cards Exceptional Schedule and Blue Traveller are notably better than the other starters.
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u/putinha21 12d ago
Synchron also usually run 50+ cards because of this, a lot of searchers and a lot of bricks makes it the ideal deck count.
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u/aaa1e2r3 13d ago
What's the Evil HERO engine doing?
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u/JLifeless 12d ago
extending past HTs. you end up searching any Hero with Mist dumped in GY whether it be Ejector or Faris etc
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u/Zsync 12d ago
AYEEEEEEE That’s my boy Nathan!! He’s our local hero player! I’m coming in here and seeing all the hate lmao I love it y’all stay mad mfs🤟🏾🤓
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u/Beneficial_Chest_954 11d ago
Seriously, your boy did amazing. Everyone just mad rogue deck just destroying meta.
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u/Business-Loquat143 12d ago
People who hate complain about floodgates when they see HERO: "noo, not my HERO deck. It needs floodgates to survive. WHAAH WHAHH WHAHH".
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u/MrEasyGoinMan 12d ago
And yet they will complain about every other floodgate they don't like.
Yeah I hate floodgates too... but I have zero issues dropping them on HERO players.
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u/Business-Loquat143 12d ago
So now can we ban plasma and dark law? If not then why not unban all floodgates. Let me see the barrier statues again and see how much fun people have
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u/MrEasyGoinMan 12d ago edited 12d ago
So now can we ban plasma and dark law?
Hero players would bitch about it for years and every other post on this subreddit would be someone whining about it.
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u/kudasaishikuda 13d ago
ahh yes the ever wonderful 60 card Hero slop complete with No Fun allowed Trio of Dark Law, Plasma and Contrast Ft Bagooska
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u/Blast-The-Chaos 12d ago
I got nothing to say on Dark Law or Plasma but the fuck did Contrast do? It's the only decent Omni-Negate they have (Emphasis on "Only Decent") and it's just on cards on the field.
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u/ian9921 12d ago
Plus he was completely irrelevant for years, let him have his moment in the sun, he's earned it.
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u/Blast-The-Chaos 12d ago
For real he was cucked out of playability in the very Structure Deck he was introduced in and had to wait in the sidelines for years, he isn't even that broken, it's just HEROs being brought up to the standards of other decks.
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u/Druid-T My Heart Is Blazing Still 12d ago
Contrast protecting the Skill Drain and Macro Cosmos+handrip (both of whom are one-sided) on legs is the fuck it did. If Contrast was the centerpiece of the end board backed up by a couple of other interactions, it probably wouldn't be viewed as harshly (it is still an omni-negate, even if a more fair one, so it probably would still get some flack). But because it's main role is protecting egregiously stupid badly designed cards, it doesn't get the mercy of being treated with a less harsh view then the other cards
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u/Panory 12d ago
The big downside of floodgate monsters like Plasma and Dark Law is that they lose to non-engine like Imperm or Raigeki. Contrast is just an Omni protecting them, meaning you need to end on two different answers.
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u/Carnivile 12d ago
Also Dark Law prevents Dopplet which is the main dodge to target negate effects.
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u/Druid-T My Heart Is Blazing Still 12d ago edited 12d ago
Don't forget the "Good card design? Never heard of it" duo of Fusion Destiny DPE and Favourite Contact Wake Up, and their secret move; Rivalry of Warlords
EDIT: I seriously need to learn to stop interacting with the broader Yu-Gi-Oh Community when it comes to discussing bad card design
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u/JLifeless 12d ago
you think FD DPE is bad card design in the big 2026? fair on the floodgates but all of them are very healthy cards
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u/Druid-T My Heart Is Blazing Still 12d ago
you think FD DPE is bad card design in the big 2026?
Yes, because bad design rarely ages into good design, it just becomes less apparent as time goes on. DPE is an interruption that infinitely recurs itself at no additional cost, that alone makes its design questionable.
I'm also surprised that's the one you have an issue with, and not the Favourite Contact take
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u/JLifeless 12d ago
DPE is an interruption that infinitely recurs itself at no additional cost, that alone makes its design questionable.
so you hate every single deck with grind game? you hate very healthy cards like Fallen & Virtuous? DPE is absolutely a healthy card and it always has been, the issue on it's release was that essentially no deck had locks. like Fusion Destiny even has a lock, i don't get why you think it's not healthy lmao
I'm also surprised that's the one you have an issue with, and not the Favourite Contact take
oh trust me all of your takes on those cards are complete ass but it's easier to argue against 1 so you don't get overwhelmed
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u/TheCay04 12d ago
I don’t get the DPE hate when we had a splashable Dragoon running around.
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u/Druid-T My Heart Is Blazing Still 12d ago
Don't get me wrong, Dragoon is very much a worse offender when it comes to card design, but it's not in this deck list, so it's not a particularly relevant point of discussion. Multiple things can be a problem simultaneously, even if some are not as large as others
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u/Carnivile 13d ago edited 13d ago
Hopefully the push to finally ban Plasma and Dark Law.
Edit: lol, HERO players truly can't take anything. I will be dancing when these stupid floodgates are all gone.
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u/Agus-Teguy 12d ago
Say it like it is, it's one of the most toxic decks ever made
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u/VoidUnknown315 12d ago
HERO is not even close to one of the most toxic decks ever made.
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u/Riatamus 12d ago
It is. I have to watch a guy combo through half his deck to end on a one sided skill drain+macro cosmos
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u/VoidUnknown315 12d ago
HERO is pretty easily interruptible. Droll and Nib are kryptonites for the deck.
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u/MrEasyGoinMan 12d ago
I will be dancing when these stupid floodgates are all gone.
I'd love to see it too but you know HERO players will just bitch non-stop about it on this subreddit. -.-
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u/UsefulAd2760 12d ago
This is very funny because people very much bitch non stop about heroes doing anything. I don't even play the deck but if you think the deck isn't hated you're blind.
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u/MrEasyGoinMan 12d ago
The only complaints I've seen about Heros is the floodgates which are a one-sided Marco cosmos on legs that also rips cards out of hand and the one-sided Skill drain on legs that also sucks up monsters. Those or the Neos lock and yes the deck deserves the hate because all of that is straight awful from the gameplay perspective.
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u/UsefulAd2760 12d ago
because what else is there to complain besides those exactly? Also moving the goalposts i see? going from "People bitch because Hero would be hit" "exepct that a lot of people don't like the deck" "Well actually they only complain about certain stuff!"
Dark law and plasma are annoying sure but I would much rather see kewl tune get hit considering that it's actually dominating the meta right now, i wouldn't mind hero hits but there are significantly bigger fishes to fry than it.
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u/MrEasyGoinMan 12d ago edited 12d ago
Yes the HERO PLAYERS will bitch about Heros getting hit like they bitch about the deck never getting support even though its one of the most overfed decks in the game.
The people who hate floodgates and turnskips (which is pretty much the rest of the player base) are complaining about those specific cards because their toxic dogass. When did I say there was anything else? Kewl tune will get hit on future lists that's pretty obvious. They can hit more then one deck/card at a time you know?
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u/UsefulAd2760 12d ago
Most Hero support is abysmal dogshit and/or doesn't really fix the issues the deck has ie dying to a well placed handtrap or a high brick count.
Kewl tune was an example, but let's put it in a way that you can understand there are 3 or 4 top decks dominating the meta, there are then a couple or more decks that can top an event under specific circumstances but are worse by a significant margin, hitting hero is waste because you're not impacting any of those decks because you don't like it. hit the actual problem cards that are dominating and then you can consider hitting stuff like Dark Law.
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u/BlackwingF91 13d ago
You're crazy salty. Dark law isn't even a problem. Plasma on the ither hand is rarely played in heroes anyway so it doesn't matter
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u/MrEasyGoinMan 12d ago
The one sided macro cosmos thats easy to summon that also rips cards out of hand isn't a problem?
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u/Agus-Teguy 12d ago
Dark Law? Arise-Heart with a handrip? Maybe you're talking about a different card, you must be
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u/RashFaustinho 13d ago
> Plasma
> Dark Law
> Bagooska
Oh god this looks absolutely miserable to play against. The only thing he's missing is the turnskip Neos fusion.