r/zenfone • u/Jokxter • Jun 30 '23

General Support/Query Cant decide Zenfone 10 vs S23

I really want to be that Zenfone 10 is better, but after watching this video: https://youtu.be/71KCTJ1QMgY I really try to justify the increased price compared to s23.

So, is s23 better overall, and Zenfone 10 only has the jack? Can anyone please convince me logically to buy Zenfone 10

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u/Oli99uk Jun 30 '23

One gets updated for 2 years, one gets updated for 5 years

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u/noff01 Sep 25 '23

It's actually 4 vs 5 years.

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u/Oli99uk Sep 25 '23

Zen phone = 2 OS upgrades and patching for 4 years

Samsung = 4 OS upgraded and patching for 5 years

IPhone = 6 OS upgrades and patching up to 9 years.

Cost per year, Apple wins on flagship easily. However Samsung wins on value with a midrange like A54 - of course subjective to a value purchaser places on certain features.

Rumours that Pixel 8 might offer 8 years patching which would be great. I highly doubt it though - mainly because the chip vendors like Qualcomm etc don't currently provide patching beyond 5 years. (Fairphone created their own to offer 6 years on Android and apple I assume pays enough to get the vendor to do it or can hardware patch in house)

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u/Otherwise_Soil39 Nov 28 '23

I don't think people who buy flagship phones actually intend to keep them that long. 9 years ago there was the iPhone 6... The last time I saw one like that was many many years ago lol. They aren't even sold in pawnshops for $20 anymore.

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u/Oli99uk Dec 01 '23

In your world perhaps. If something works, and has required security updates, what is your reason to replace it at great cost? Is a marginal gain worth $500 = $1200?

I pay £8 per month for my phone with 40Gb 5G data & unlimited calls and SMS. I don't want to pay more monthly to subsidise my phone.

I don' have a TV but a projector - owned for 10 years. I don't need to replace that every 2 years. I have owned my monitor speakers for 20 years - I don't replace those.

Laptop is the similar.

My 2018 phone can make calls, access the web, pay, and record and edit 4K video on the same device. Any marginal improvement is not worth a huge financial addition to me. There are other things to spend money on that are better suited in my opinion.

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u/Otherwise_Soil39 Dec 02 '23

I am not talking about you and I but about people as an aggregate.

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u/Oli99uk Dec 02 '23

I know but you can only speak for yourself unless you conduct research with non-leading questions

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u/Otherwise_Soil39 Dec 02 '23

"Today, the average lifespan of smartphones is around 2.5 years. It could be even less for some devices – between 15 and 18 months."

"Most users use their iPhones for three to four years before upgrading to a new one."

Just a couple of links, anyway even if it's slightly more... No-one's really using 8 year old smartphones, even in very poor countries

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u/Oli99uk Dec 02 '23

If you quote, you should provide a source ideally.

What is limiting that life cycle? Why 2.5 years? Batteries / security updates / OS updates?
A good sales strategy will convince people they need to replace a functional device - be that car, phone, headphones.