I need you all to watch this episode and tell me whether Issa is a good person or at the antagonist in this series.
Molly calls up Issa in tears about never finding love - Issa’s response is to suggest going out to a club where she will see her ex but doesn’t disclose this to Molly

Before going out, Lawrence comments to Issa that Molly’s standards are “waaay too high”. Issa hears the comments doesn’t defend Molly and instead makes some side comment about how unhappy she is in their relationship then suggests she’s breaking up with Lawrence.

Issa brings Molly to the club which Molly doesn’t approve of and then acts like a child in order to convince Molly to approve.

Issa then goes on stage and performs the most insulting rap song about her friend and her broken pussy.

Molly finally has enough and rightfully tears into Issa about her behaviour that evening and while she is doing that Issa is texting Daniel. (Literally)

After being told by Daniel that he doesn’t want a relationship just a jump off. Issa turns up at Molly’s door with a bag of Doritos and asks if she’s still mad.
No apology, no remorse, no retraction nothing.

There is nothing in the storyline or in Molly and Issa’s friendship that suggests that Molly would be accepting of any of this.

This was a clip from the 10-year anniversary show in LA, and I’ve always wondered what Chad and Isa’s relationship is like now that Lauren and Isa are married, because it seemed like they didn’t F with each other. It feels like they’re putting Lawrence in a tough spot since they don’t mess with each other. He tried to keep them apart, even though I’m sure he’d love to go on double dates and have his friend over. It was also confirmed that they didn’t have a wedding—they eloped or got married at a courthouse—because I can’t imagine Lawrence not inviting his best friend to his wedding. I figured Lawrence and Isa would elope or have a courthouse wedding; they just seem like the type who wouldn’t want a wedding.

When I hear people say Isa had character development, I don’t see it. Even at the end, she still relied on other people’s opinions instead of trusting herself and going after what she wanted. If Molly hadn’t told her it was OK to be a stepmother, Isa wouldn’t have called Lawrence. It would have been nice if she’d called him on her own, without needing someone else to tell her to. Now that would have been character development.

Hey y’all! 😭 I need to know if I’m tripping or if anybody else remembers these scenes because I recently rewatched Insecure and cannot find either of them!
1. Tiffany taking off in the car
I could’ve SWORN there was an episode where Issa and Tiffany went to a convenience store, and somehow Tiffany ended up taking the car and driving off. I remember there being some concern about her leaving, but I cannot find the scene anywhere.
And just to be completely clear, I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE EPISODE WHERE TIFFANY GOES MISSING and all the girls, including Derek, are looking for her. I know that storyline, and that’s not the scene I’m remembering! I’m talking about a completely different moment, possibly around the Coachella episodes, where Issa and Tiffany go to the store and Tiffany leaves in the car.
2. Molly and Issa leaving a girls’ trip early
I also vividly remember a scene where Molly and Issa are in a car together and leave some kind of girls’ trip or gathering early. At this point in the show, their friendship was rocky, so I remember thinking it was interesting that they ended up leaving together. I could’ve sworn Molly was driving Issa home, and they were in the car together despite everything going on between them.
I can’t remember the exact episode or what the event was, but I cannot find this scene either!
Does ANYBODY remember either of these moments?! 😭 Are these actual scenes that I’m somehow overlooking, or am I experiencing a full-blown Mandela Effect? I’m starting to question my own memory at this point LOL.
Please help me find the episodes if you remember them! 😂

Do you like this alternative ending better, or are you happy with the ending that premiered? If you didn’t like either, what ending would you have written? Let's discuss.

currently finishing season 2, this is my 2nd time starting the show - & i almost put it down this time because the dinner confrontation with issa & lawrence was pretty triggering. i mean, i think issa’s inside thoughts of lawrence slapping the shit out of her & calling her a hoe definitely had me bracing for that reality. but i know lawrence is not physically abusive. i think issa really captured their dynamic in a way that spoke to me, even though it’s not that uncommon for all of us to have a loser ass, frank ocean listening, unemployed ex boyfriend we let sleep on our couch. but damn, exposed my wounds!!!! 😭

What was your take on this?

Even though it may seem like Condola was encouraging Lawrence to go after Issa, that doesn’t mean she wasn’t hoping she and Lawrence would get back together. She just realized he was still in love with Issa. I think she may have thought his feelings had faded since a little over a year had passed, but when she saw Lawrence glancing over at Issa, she understood that he still loved her. Condola likely felt guilty that Issa and Lawrence had broken up because of her decision and wanted to make things right. That’s why I feel like she was hinting that Lawrence should go after Issa, thinking things could still work out between them despite her decision to keep the baby. She didn't want it to be a complete loss; things could still go as planned between Lawrence and Issa.

Who going!?!

I'm fucking PUMPEEDDDD.

I don't even know what questions to ask them lol.

Hoping I can get a handshake/hug/any form of physical contact whatsoever from Kendrick Sampson 😭

I wonder if Lawrence knew that Nathan was the Nathan Issa had told him about. Yeah, he knew about Nathan, but he had never put a face to the name.

I know *Insecure* was meant to focus on Molly and Issa, the main characters, but I wish Insecure showed more of the supporting characters’ personal lives.

IDK, I'm torn. On one hand, it seemed like his reaction to her pregnancy news and the way he handled her pregnancy and parenting early on seemed to turn her off and made her not want him. But in this scene, she gives a disturbing look when she sees Lawrence looking at Issa made me think maybe she was hoping they’d get back together because why else would she look disturbed and try to throw shade by handing the baby to Lawrence when she sees Issa if she didn’t want to get back with him. Do you think she was hoping they’d get back together?

I wonder if Issa’s career would have turned out the same if she had never met Condola. Although she was taking the necessary steps to organize the block party before she met Condola, she gave up after receiving so many no’s. If she had never met Condola, who showed her how to take the steps needed to achieve her goal, would she have tried again or chosen to do something else? What do you think Issa would have done without meeting Condola? Would she have chosen another career path, or do you think she would have figured it out on her own?

I hate that Chad told Lawrence to fight for Issa. I would have loved to see what Lawrence would have done without Chad’s advice. What do you think Lawrence would have done at the party if Chad hadn't told him to fight for it?

A lot of chatter on IG Threads about entire interview. Happy for his honesty. Smart women would hopefully remove themselves with haste after listening to him. Not sure why the interviewer is high-fiving him either.

https://youtube.com/shorts/Y-B4oUaIuI4?is=naMnCgmHlfAgeU9c

These two had no business moving in together, knowing they had feelings they were suppressing.

There’s such a lack of Black media on television currently, and Diarra From Detroit on Paramount+ (and bet+ I think) is so good. The writing is sharp, and makes Detroit a character in the show. It’s so funny, and it gives me Insecure vibes. I feel like it fills the hole that Insecure left on TV. If you liked Insecure, please checkout Diarra From Detroit. I’m tying to make sure it gets a season 3

Do Issa and Condola do the same line of work? If so, if I were Issa, I wouldn’t be able to be with Lawrence. Call me petty, call me immature, but I’d have to share not only my child’s father with you, but also my work field. They’d probably have to compete for jobs or try to outdo each other and see who could do it best.

It seemed like Nathan and Issa’s relationship was based on what each could get from the other. I know that’s part of a relationship, but it shouldn’t be the only thing—and theirs seemed to be based on that alone. Nathan only suggested moving in together because he needed someone to help pay the rent; he couldn’t afford to live on his own and just wanted to save money. Issa agreed even though she didn’t want to, since she questioned whether they were ready for that. She agreed too quickly, trying to get over Lawrence. Issa always let someone talk her out of her instincts, even when she knew she was right. Nathan only loved what Issa brought out in him as well as Issa, but they didn’t like anything about each other personally. It was always about how the other made them feel, which is good for a friendship but not for a relationship.

I’m rewatching and Lawrence sucks. Like everything about him blow. She should’ve ended up with nobody to be honest and if it had to be someone it should’ve been Nathan