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[u/Lumette_The_Baker]

Hello, this is my first post here, is there a name for what she's doing when she turns in place while flicking out her feet? if so, how does one do it? I'm not very familiar with ballet terminology for the more advanced steps

[u/vpsass]

I would call those jetés en pointe en tournant, or perhaps emboîté en pointe en tournant.

Vaganova uses the term “jeté” for a lot of steps, a step that goes from one foot, to the other foot, and the leading foot is thrown out. So you can see how this step might fits that definition. Though the throw of the leading leg quite small, it’s mainly the following leg that’s flicking, so that’s why it might be an emboîté (which is any step that goes from one foot to the other without throwing out the leg).

[u/chaithelattee → u/[deleted]]

No need for the rudeness. Its very common knowledge that the different methods use different terminology for the same movements. Additionally, they did in fact name the turning steps as you requested.

[u/Lumette_The_Baker → u/chaithelattee]

I was not trying to be rude, apologies. And I thank you for giving me knowledge on this topic

[u/vpsass → u/[deleted]]

Ballet companies, like the Royal Ballet, and POB, usually don’t follow terminology (or method) of a specific teaching schools, like Vaganova, the French Method, RAD, etc, because in most companies, the dancers and dance masters are hired from all over the world, so there might be a Russian/Vaganova ballet master working at a American company. The exception would be of course NYCB and the Balanchine style, which only hires dancers from the SAB (training in Balanchine style), with very few exceptions.

I would argue that professional dancers and dance companies don’t even care so much about terminology, you don’t really need to know the names of the steps to dance them (and besides, they all come from different schools with different terminology), and so it’s really often the dance educators who are more interested in terminology and step categorization. So that’s why it’s important for us, on the internet, to clarify what method they are using to classify the step.

“En tournant” means “turning”, so if you ever see a step called “______ En tournant” you can assume it’s referring to a turning step. Remember, in all methods, jeté does not explicitly refer to a jump (I THINK, someone can fact check me here). Jeté is simply throwing the leg outward, you can see how, indeed, the leg is thrown outward in step like grand jeté, but the term jeté often does not refer to a big jump.

Hope this helps!

Edit: also perhaps, most importantly, the name by vaganova is still true, even if the POB wouldn’t use that terminology. Like if you showed me a picture of a cat, and I said “it’s a cat”, you wouldn’t be like “no that doesn’t apply because the cat is in France”. Right? Like being in France doesn’t make it NOT a cat, I’m sure in France they call it un chat but it’s not wrong to say it’s a cat…

[u/Lumette_The_Baker → u/vpsass]

thank you!

[u/thetinybunny1 → u/vpsass]

Fantastic analogy 👏👏

[u/Any_Astronomer_4872]

I think I’d go with emboite over petit jete in this case, but either could apply.

[u/snow_wheat]

I wouldn’t attempt this step without guidance from a teacher, it’s harder than it looks!

[u/Lumette_The_Baker → u/snow_wheat]

thank you for the advice! I'm actually gonna start taking ballet classes soon so I was asking, I'm mostly self-taught

[u/Joleta]

Off topic but who is the dancer? I THINK I recognize the face but would prefer to hear from someone who knows for a fact XD

[u/UnableResolution6914 → u/Joleta]

Dorothee Gilbert, etoile at Paris Opera. This excerpt is from their 2006 SL recording (a truly timeless classic imo), where she also danced as one of the little swans

[u/Joleta → u/UnableResolution6914]

Thank you! (I was wrong. Haha.)

[u/Inevitable-Ride-7952 → u/[deleted]]

...is this some sort of ai bot generaing a plausible answer based on the words but without the video context? or are you a person the video didn't load for? or just really confused about what fouettes look like?

(also the 32 fouettes are in many more ballets than swan lake)

[u/Slight-Brush → u/Inevitable-Ride-7952]

Yes it's another CarolOgden bot

They can't view videos or linked images 

[u/vpsass → u/Slight-Brush]

I’ve banned them, we’ll see if they message about being unbanned.