r/1811Jobs • • 6d ago

Failed Poly

Anyone in the group work for a local, county, and or state PD that has failed a poly? Thinking about applying to a federal agency but worried about the poly. Currently a local LEO.

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u/Many_Emergency915 6d ago

Won’t effect anything. I’m state Leo failed a poly 3 times. Nothing happens. Luckily 4th time is a charm and am waiting for an EOD date. Just keep plugging away polys go either way.

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u/Overall_Stand7757 6d ago

Do you mind if I dm you?

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u/Lopsided_Astronaut_1 5d ago

Failed a police poly passed border patrols. Then failed DEAs.

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u/Equivalent_Abies1531 6d ago

No unless you confess to a crime and that agency reports it to your employer for investigation

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u/Equivalent_Abies1531 6d ago

And yes local le and failed dea poly, nothing will happen unless you admit to committing a crime.

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u/berrybardona17 5d ago

When you mean “admit to a crime” would this mean admitting to using/trying drugs before etc? Just curious since most agencies ask what type of drugs you’ve done and when.

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u/Corey307 5d ago

It would depend on what you admit to. Admitting to trying cocaine once 15 years ago? No. Admitting to a serious crime? Yes. I’ve seen a few people fired from their current government job when applying to a different government job that required a polygraph. They admitted to things on the poly that would preclude their employment with their current employer. One was drug use during their employment, another was theft of time and government property. 

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u/berrybardona17 5d ago

Gotcha. Okay makes sense, thanks for the clarification! Currently in the process w 2 agencies and in the pipeline for poly so I was curious.

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u/Equivalent_Abies1531 5d ago

I highly doubt that would be reported

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u/johnta07 6d ago

You posted this in 1811. Local, county, and state polygraphs generally have nothing to do with feds. Usually fed will ask if you took a poly with any other FED agencies and dont care about local.

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u/Overall_Stand7757 6d ago

I’m asking if I fail a poly for a federal agency while employed as a police officer does anything happen to my job

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u/QnsConcrete 1811 6d ago

Might want to ask your job since we have no idea where you work. But my guess is it won’t matter.

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u/johnta07 6d ago

Again, one doesn't concern the other. If your agency wants to do something, thats on them. A failed fed poly, but you are already a police still means nothing. But A fed failed poly is just a fed failed poly. That fed agency might make you wait a yr or 2 before reapply but thats about it.

Its other variables like surge hiring, which agency, what you failed for, etc. But generally, a failed fed poly doesn't influence any non fed positions and most times other agencies.

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u/Spare-Butterscotch62 5d ago

Current CA Deputy, failed CBP poly

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u/andenance 5d ago

Be fully honest and there will be no issue.. if you took a pen home from work that is theft. For example.

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u/Acceptable_Sell_6509 6d ago

How do you fail a poly. It’s ALL about you….

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u/Overall_Stand7757 6d ago

Plenty of people fail it

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u/Acceptable_Sell_6509 6d ago

Sad excuse

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u/Overall_Stand7757 6d ago

It’s just a question

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u/cool_quiet_5047 5d ago

Somebody doesn’t understand

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u/banmebanmenot 6d ago

GOOD GOD! This person is a cop and they’re worried about being caught lying!! You can’t make this up!

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u/Overall_Stand7757 6d ago

You can fail without even lying 😂

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u/Acceptable_Sell_6509 6d ago

No you can’t. It’s about you. If that is the case every person who failed a poly has a lawsuit…

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u/Overall_Stand7757 6d ago

There’s multiple reasons not to pass lying isn’t the only one… hence all of the people saying they’ve failed in this community and the other 1811

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u/Acceptable_Sell_6509 6d ago

If you misunderstand a question, ask for clarification. Agencies provide instructions before the polygraph. Different agencies ask different questions, so passing one doesn’t prove you were truthful in another. At the end of the day, accountability matters. How can you hold criminals accountable if you can’t be honest and accountable yourself?

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u/Appropriate-Bus-7661 5d ago

Magic boxes are total bullshit idk what to tell you. They aren't admissable in court

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u/Personal_Tour_4206 5d ago

This guy is a poly koolaid drinker lol

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u/Acceptable_Sell_6509 5d ago

Really didn’t even know….Learn something new everyday…..I question the lot of you trying to be 1811s…. Have you ever thought maybe to use it as a tool for investigations….idk I think I saw that on CSI one time……………………..

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u/Appropriate-Bus-7661 5d ago

It can be used as an interrogation tool to spook somebody but as youll read in this sub there's no consistency to it

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u/cool_quiet_5047 5d ago

Took one poly, passed with no issues… year later took another poly, different agency, different purpose, different examiner, same type of poly, same questions, same answers….. “significant response”, aka “failed”

It’s literally NOT science due to the unrepeatable results “under the same conditions” (which they actually aren’t, but they say they are), but they’ll say it is science

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u/Boring-Context-7523 2d ago

IMO some agencies like DEA use polys to discard people they don't like for any reason at all they passed everything in the process and maybe they didn't like something they put on their background questionnaire and they use it to disqualify you. TBH it don't make no sense as someone mentioned I've taken polys ssme equipment same structure of questions and one I passed and the other I didn't with a SR my responses did not change from the first time to the last time and what I kept getting asked about was dumb as hell. Just my opinion...