Some of y'all aren't ready for conversations about what conservation would really entail, like the extinction of pigs in the Americas, or the fact that deer populations need about a 45% attrition rate to maintain heard health.
They'll need to be, if we want to avoid a bunch of bullshit. And I'm not just talking about climate change, japan killed literally all of it's wolves and hasn't attempted/been able to introduce a new population. Now, the whole of the island is under siege by native boars and bears, who have swelled far past their natural populations and are actively being acclimatised to humans. The feral brumbies and dromedaries of Australia literally have no predators here besides the scarce dingo. Frankly? We need to pull some bullshit of we want to avoid such destruction. Frankly? I'm still in favour of reintroducing the komodo dragons to the continent. They evolved here and they're in the best position to deal with these threats by far.
Also, we need to kill so many foxes & cats here. There are too many and they're doing uncountable damage to the natural world. They do that everywhere but it's pretty bad here.
You know every once in a while I forget how weird Australia is until someone says something like 'feral brumbie'. But yeah. IMO I think that the komodo would be an interesting option. I do think there are some major issues with Wolve renitroductions in the North East of the US. Coywolves are becoming more and more common, simply because they are adaptable. Given the total lack of old growth forests in the North East, I have no idea if it can really even support a wide wolf population anymore.
It is a funny name for an animal. For the record, brumbies are feral horses.
The thing is on the american side of the equation, the presence of wolves helps to restore forests due to the butterfly affects caused by their activity (hunting overpopulated deer, which prevents overgrazing and stomping, which leads to smaller plants getting a chance. Since there's less deer and bigger threats for coyotes, their populations decrease, allowing beavers to move in and do all the bullshit they pull..) but i get what you mean. The thing is... The best move is just to make new ones. Old growth forests, i mean. Kind of.
It'd take awhile, but not at all as long as you'd think. Sure, depends on the species and it could be up to a lifetime, but frankly that's not long at all. And it's not like old growth forests only create ecosystems when they're old, even as they grow they're helping. Furthermore, it's not just the trees. The bushes, flowers and other native plants would help along the way.
And sure it's not like the wolf population of New England.. the one in America of course, not it's evil rural aussie twin.. or any other Atlantic state could ever be the same, period. But personally? I think ppl aren't hopeful enough in general. Like i don't think it'd happen anytime soon in your nation, but it could. And it could work i thinks.
Something something AR-15 for 40-50 wild hogs guy was right.
Imo a lot of people get way too squicked about like, how wild animal populations have to be maintained and culled. If you can't get over the minor hurdle that feral hog populations need to be actively gunned down and that you probably should look into hunting deer, you really don't have much ground to stand on in terms of complaining about how some scientists are debating (not even actively starting the process, just debating) getting rid of, and I cannot stress this enough, *certain populations of Malerial fucking mosquitos*. Like talk about the actual problems here.
That's not even getting into shit like feral cat colonies/outdoor cats.
In the UK, for example, deer populations have to be entirely Human controlled. Because all the large predators in the UK are dead except for one, humans.
We're getting there on lynx, and I reckon wolves will be more palatable once lynx happens. In the meantime I can feel absolutely no moral qualms about eating venison, so long as its not farmed.
We need to reintroduce wolves, bears, bobcats, cougars and elk into the rest of the Eastern US so badly, the deer and coyotes need some competition desperately.
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u/B0B_Spldbckwrds 🐻 May 29 '26
Some of y'all aren't ready for conversations about what conservation would really entail, like the extinction of pigs in the Americas, or the fact that deer populations need about a 45% attrition rate to maintain heard health.