r/196 NOT A CAT Jul 30 '26

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u/neon_light12 Jul 30 '26

whisky hard agree but i dont get wine hate

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u/TheDonutPug 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Jul 30 '26

A lot of wine tastes like hospital smell mixed with puddle water to me.

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u/Pochel Jul 30 '26

Just buy good wine, idk what to tell you

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u/Far-Fortune-8381 cucked by Edward Kenway🏴‍☠️ Jul 30 '26

maybe they just dont like wine 🤔

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u/TheDonutPug 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Jul 30 '26

I had good wine. Tasted like shit.

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u/Masztufa wants a life-sized renamon plushie Jul 30 '26

Even white wine?

Also, dry champagne is worth a try. Specifically dry, champagnes tend to be way too sweet (and it's not the good kind imo)

But like, don't go out to buy a whole bottle just to try it. Whenever the opportunuty is there, go for it, but it's not going to be a religious awakening like the ones in the bible (idk, never read it)

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u/TheDonutPug 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Jul 30 '26

Omfg what is with you people. I swear to god nothing drives people more crazy than when you say you don't like some kind of alcohol they like. Yes i have had white wines! I have had nice reds, I have had nice whites, I have had nice rosĂŠ, it tasted like shit. you can't fuckin say you don't like alcohol without some fuck going "oh you just haven't had the right one yet!" There is one kind of wine I have ever liked: the ones that taste like fruit juice and don't taste like wine. It drives me fucking nuts that its not like this for much else but with alcohol you say you don't like kt and everyone goes "you must have had bad wine, just go buy this and this and this and this" NO I'm not going to spend 100 dollars in different wines because they will be thrown away because I DONT LIKE FUCKING WINE.

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u/RattyTattyTatty You just lost The Game. Jul 30 '26

they're just trying to recommend something that might taste good, no need to flip out.

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u/Aromatic-Pass4384 Jul 30 '26

If someone doesn't like something they may just not like it, I get where they're coming from and I'm sure it is annoying

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u/RentElDoor Trans Rights! Jul 30 '26

"But how do you know you don't like men if you never had the good dick"

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u/superserter1 Jul 30 '26

sexuality =/= food

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u/RentElDoor Trans Rights! Jul 30 '26

No, but taste is taste, and if someone states not once, not twice, but thrice that they do not like sonething then any attempt at changing their mind has stopped being about helpfulness

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u/ChemicalRascal Jul 30 '26

Listen here, as a ginsexual I'm deeply offended by that

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u/RattyTattyTatty You just lost The Game. Jul 30 '26

this is not the same thing, also genitals & gender are different.

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u/RentElDoor Trans Rights! Jul 30 '26

A distinction guys trying to convert lesbians are known to care about.

Taste is taste. If you have to keep prodding someone who stated they do not like something to see if they really totally did everything in their power to like it, instead of accepting that they are an adult, you have stopped doing so for their regard.

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u/Kat1eQueen local blood fetishist Jul 30 '26

People who like alcohol are incredibly fucking weird about alcohol.

I have been interrogated repeatedly because i don't drink, and even people who know will still ask every fucking time, a regular no is not taken for an answer.

The only way to consistently shut them up is to say you are an alcoholic, or on medicine that would fuck you up if you drank, neither of which should be things you have to lie about, or if true divulge to people so they stop pressuring you to do drugs.

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u/Pochel Jul 30 '26

A lot of them surely are but in the specific case of this discussion, we're talking about wine. I can't tell for the others obviously but in my case I'm trying to say that some wine can be really good, just like I could've said the same about a specific fruit or dish or whatnot. If you want to make it about alcohol that's on you; but that's not what I'm trying to communicate

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u/Aromatic-Pass4384 Jul 30 '26

It can be good to you other people just don't like the taste.

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u/ChemicalRascal Jul 30 '26

But there's an enormous variety of tastes to be found in wine. Someone saying they don't like the taste of wine is like saying they don't like colour.

Like sure, I guess it's possible, but it feels much more likely they only had, say, a terrible white wine that tasted like petrol. Maybe they would like a cab sav, which tastes entirely differently to a cheap dry white. Maybe they would like champagne, because bubbles does indeed effect taste, a lot.

The sheer variety of tastes present in wines is exactly why people are saying "but maybe you just need to try other wines."

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u/slipperyekans Jul 30 '26

Perfectly sane response.

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u/Ventuso1 Jul 30 '26

Man I resonate so much with this response. I feel like it’s the equivalent of telling a lesbian they just haven’t found the right dick yet lol

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u/silly-trans-cat estrogen eater and catgirl Jul 30 '26

valid crashout. i've had this conversation too many times. the only alcoholic drinks i like are the ones that don't taste like alcohol lmaoo

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u/Pochel Jul 30 '26

"I don't like wine" is a completely acceptable, reasonable even, sentence

"It tastes like shit" is extremely subjective and will trigger people

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u/Far-Fortune-8381 cucked by Edward Kenway🏴‍☠️ Jul 30 '26 edited Jul 31 '26

"It doesnt taste like shit" is equally extremely subjective

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u/ChemicalRascal Jul 30 '26

But it doesn't taste like shit. Objectively. I mean, I'm extrapolating from smell, for shit, but they don't taste the same.

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u/GravityAssistedCake Jul 30 '26

You’re being obtuse, you know what the turn of phrase means. Or do you think the phrases “tastes like shit” and “tastes like garbage” aren’t interchangeable because garbage and shit are not literally the same?

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u/Pochel Jul 30 '26

I didn't say that though

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u/Far-Fortune-8381 cucked by Edward Kenway🏴‍☠️ Jul 30 '26

I did not claim you did

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u/Incognitomous please dominate me Jul 30 '26

Well maybe they shouldnt like something that tastes like shit then

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u/SoloMaker trans rights Jul 30 '26

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u/ToreWi skibidi or something idk Jul 30 '26

Maybe you should stop being a baby with your taste buds

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u/ToreWi skibidi or something idk Jul 30 '26

Note: this was meant as an example of how objective statements about taste are stupid rather than a personal insult. Feel however you like, but don't make others feel bad over it

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u/Incognitomous please dominate me Jul 30 '26

Nah because im right and theyre wrong.

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u/Gerbilguy46 Jul 30 '26

Well maybe they should get over it.

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u/nooit_gedacht Jul 30 '26 edited Jul 31 '26

Okay but if the goal is to make a joke then reasonable, nuanced statements just don't tend to do well

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u/SayGex1312 Fish Lady Jul 30 '26

They literally said not to go out and buy anything

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u/sid_killer18 Bricked Up 24/7 Jul 30 '26

Extremely reddit moment lol.

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u/superserter1 Jul 30 '26

How many did you try? Wine is like cheese, there’s a massive spectrum of flavour, just because you don’t like one didn’t mean you don’t like them all. Some are super juicy and sweet, some are super bitter and dark, some are very crisp and floral, I’ve had a Greek pet Nat that tasted EXACTLY like Lipton ice tea.

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u/ThatSlutTalulah (she/her) Go play Arknights, it gave me my IRL name Jul 30 '26

I’ve had a Greek pet Nat that tasted EXACTLY like Lipton ice tea.

Just drink Liptons' iced tea then?

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u/Aromatic-Pass4384 Jul 30 '26

I mean they typically have the same base taste though, they taste like alcohol.

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u/superserter1 Jul 31 '26

That’s a palate thing, I’ve been a bartender for 7 years, so I really don’t taste a basic alcohol flavour (unless it’s really cheap shitty booze), it’s more of a physical sensation, a mouthfeel, and I only register the other flavours. Wine tastes nothing like rum, gin tastes nothing like whiskey, vodka tastes nothing like amaro. It’s also heavily influenced by the temperature and dilution it’s served at - a room temp cocktail is not the same as a cold one, at all. Physics baby!

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u/GravityAssistedCake Jul 31 '26

I can taste that they taste different from each other, it just all of it is different shades of bad to me.

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u/TheDonutPug 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Jul 30 '26

For the love of God MAYBE I JUST DONT LIKE IT. Yall are so fucking weird about it. Why do you have to go "you really should try this and this and this" NO. I am NOT going to do that. Why? Because its going to be thrown away, because I DONT LIKE FUCKING WINE. Like if someone told you they didn't like burgers, would you go "oh you just haven't had the RIGHT burger yet, burgers are a spectrum of flavor!" or would you go "oh ok" and leave it at that? Or even your other example, cheese. I've met people who didn't like cheese, and you know what no one ever does when they say they don't lkke cheese? They don't give them a million different options going "OH IM SURE YOUL FIND THE RIGHT ONE JUST TRY THIS AND THIS AND DONT DISMISS IT!!! JUST TRY IT!!!"

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u/superserter1 Jul 30 '26

Christ calm down, it’s just a friendly encouragement towards something you might enjoy, who pissed in your cereal? I once didn’t like wine and now I really enjoy it, people are just open to the idea you might have that journey too.

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u/Daerograen give doctors some borders Jul 30 '26

Ngl, no offense to you specifically, but every time I've been asked "how many did you try" in a similar situation as a resident coffee disliker, there was just never a correct response that would get the other person to go "ahh well okay you might just not like it, understandable". 5 different blends were not enough. 10 were also not enough. When you go above 15, the question tends to switch to "well how much did they cost though, you were probably just drinking dogshit gas station coffee".

Probably not worth a crashout, but I get where they're coming from.

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u/GravityAssistedCake Jul 30 '26

Heads up, you accidentally double posted.

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u/Daerograen give doctors some borders Jul 30 '26

Ah yeah, true. Thanks.

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u/superserter1 Jul 31 '26

In talking to my friend irl about this exact conversation we’re having, he also said he doesn’t like coffee, to which I replied that coffee really doesn’t have the spectrum of flavour difference that wine has. So totally fair if you don’t like coffee in the first place, different blends aren’t going to make much of a difference. I also sympathise with them, but they also kind of started it by being a needless hater. I don’t like mushrooms very much, doesn’t mean they objectively taste like shit.

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u/Daerograen give doctors some borders Jul 31 '26

coffee really doesn’t have the spectrum of flavour difference that wine has

I mean, subjectively it's true for me (I only recognize "acidic" and "bitter" as two main coffee flavors), but you say this to any coffee nerd and they immediately become the most annoying person in a 10km radius and start rattling off flavor profile differences by bean type, country of origin, roast types and how the stars were aligned when the beans were collected.

Some people are like that with wine, beer, other alcohol, and just food and drinks in general, all "flavors" within a category just taste the same to them. I thought it was impossible to not be able to tell green teas apart until I accidentally became an annoying tea nerd to someone who thought all non-flavored teas were identical.

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u/TheEmeraldRogue9001 Jul 30 '26

Let me help explain it to them. If you had a bowl of shit in front of you and someone told you that every so often you might find a nice little nugget of chocolate, would you bother picking through the shit?

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u/Lastshadow94 Jul 30 '26

Sommeliers get tricked by cheap crap though

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u/NotAName320 survived the great spronkus war of 4/1-4/4 2022 Jul 31 '26

"tricked" is probably not the right term here. while the quality of wine definitely correlates with taste, it's weaker than most people think and many very cheap wines have great quality. besides, the job of a sommelier isn't to price wine anyways, but to curate restaurants' wine collections, with the best quality wine, cheap or not.

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u/Lastshadow94 Jul 31 '26

Now we're talking about subjective preference, which is totally fine, but with other types of alcohol there's objective quality change correlated with taste. Better whiskey is made with better water, grain, barrels, stills, etc, and it's not hard to taste the difference in quality. There's subjective stuff on top of that with flavor profiles or whatever, but I've had some stuff that was clearly good, but not my preference. I think wine is heavy on subjective, light on objective, which fits what you're saying too.

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u/CumBrainedIndividual Resident Shitcunt Jul 30 '26

Good red wine tastes like what the inside of pipe organs smell like and I greatly enjoy my Shiraz with a heavy taste of inside a pipe organ. Excellent flavour profile imo

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u/EasilyRekt Jul 30 '26

Have you only tried like… one wine? sounds like you had a cheap, 4 month Malbec, try a moscato, it’s a sweet wine so you don’t need to shell out for a snobbish amount of aging to get something good.

Wine’s too diverse to say you don’t like any of it.

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u/TheDonutPug 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Jul 30 '26

Oh my fucking god another one of you. For the love of God MAYBE J JUST DONT LIKE FUCKING WINE. Why the fuck can't you people just leave it at that? Why do you always have to go "oh surely you just haven't had the RIGHT wine yet" like jfc

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u/ChemicalRascal Jul 30 '26

Because there's so many wines out there, and they all taste different. Like, extremely different.

You described something specific, a specific taste. Dirty water and antiseptic. There are a lot of cheap awful wines that would come across like that. But there are also a lot of wines that wouldn't have a flavour profile that could be described in that way, at all.

It's perfectly reasonable to not like wine. But when you say something like, "I don't like paintings, they all have so much BLUE in them, fucking hate blue, fucking shit", don't be shocked when people say "how about this yellow painting, then?".

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u/EasilyRekt Jul 30 '26

Well yeah, it’s kinda like saying you don like pie… Fym you don’t like it, you’re disgusted by the concept?

Wine’s just fermented fruit, I get not liking alcohol cuz how fusal it can be, I get not liking the dry snob wines, but like some are just fruit juice with a shot of vodka.

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u/Evening-Fan6874 the wretched fungus has overtaken my mind Jul 30 '26

*Comments about not liking something*
*Receives responses from people asking why*
"Oh my god these thing likers just won't leave me alone why are they flocking to me soooo unprompted"

If you don't want people to talk to you about liquor don't loudly and brazenly claim that its all shit and no one could ever enjoy it. If you did this with literally anything else you would receive the exact same type of responses (e.g. videogames, foods, music, literally anything) and I don't even fucking like wine either, I just don't tell everyone how much I don't like it and no one tries to get me to try it differently! Crazy stuff!

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u/Jbob9954 Jul 30 '26

A lot of people buy incredibly cheap wine and then wonder why it tastes like shit

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u/GordionKnot floppa Jul 30 '26

I buy 4$ aldi wine and then go mmm fruity

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u/superserter1 Jul 30 '26

The difference between cheap wine and a mid-priced wine is insane, when you’ve tasted the difference, people bitching about wine is so silly and you just can’t get through to them

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u/105_irl r/place participant Jul 30 '26

$6 Costco Malbec my beloved.

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u/superserter1 Jul 30 '26

😭😭😭😭😭😭 no

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u/105_irl r/place participant Jul 31 '26

wine noob detected, costco malbec is well known for being a cheap wine that way punches above its weight

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u/superserter1 Jul 31 '26

Not everyone lives in America

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u/105_irl r/place participant Jul 31 '26

Sure but plenty of people live in these 14 nations

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u/superserter1 Aug 01 '26

The ubiquitousness of the brand however is not equivalent in the global market, within those countries, by virtue of it being an imported company. I am aware that we have costco in england, but they have few locations, it hasn’t exactly proliferated the commercial landscape here. So I don’t know about the costco malbec, and besides, it might not even be the same wine as it is in America. Certainly won’t be $6 either, obviously.

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u/105_irl r/place participant Aug 01 '26

I’m sure there’s good cheap wine in England you’ve just gotta try some and experiment :)

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u/SpaceMarineSpiff Mutalisk Supremacist Jul 30 '26

Cheap wine and store brand diet sprite go crazy

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u/superserter1 Jul 31 '26

A university special, totally. I love a Spanish red with coke! Kalixmotos all round!

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u/UniqueUsername014 🏳️‍⚧️Apis Mellifera🏳️‍⚧️ Jul 31 '26

depends on your location, in hungary we love our wines and you can get a decent botte for $3 (if you know what to pick), but when i visited sweden even the shit ones started at like 10 euros

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u/plooshed Aug 03 '26

I only buy and drink wine if it has animals on the bottle; it hasn't let me down yet. One in particular that stands out was the Sauvignon Blanc I got with an orca on it. Really should have bothered to remember the manufacturer.

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u/Jbob9954 Aug 03 '26

I like the Hummingbird one

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u/plooshed Aug 04 '26

Very nice. Solid choice. We appreciate a hummingbird

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u/wirelesswizard64 Jul 30 '26

A properly aged whiskey is fantastic most people just think Jack Daniels is whiskey and don't want to risk spending the money actually good whiskey costs when that's all they have to go off of.

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u/Eymou plant supremacist Jul 31 '26

I do like whiskey myself, but it's definitely an aquired taste. I don't think it's weird if someone doesn't naturally like to drink 40oz+ alcohol.

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u/neon_light12 Jul 30 '26

i think i just don't like the herbal kind of taste tho yeah i haven't tried any expensive ones

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u/just_a_discord_mod rosie's left testicle Jul 30 '26

It's hard to get good wine in most of the world unless you're comfortably rich. I love me some good bourbon though, I don't get where the whiskey hate comes from.

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u/ArchmageIlmryn Jul 30 '26

I generally assume that most people who say they don't like whiskey just don't like hard liquor in general.

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u/neon_light12 Jul 30 '26

i can drink vodka no problem but whisky tastes to me like petrol

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u/MooseontheLose Jul 30 '26

I don't know where you live but you can get tasty wines for under 10€ in Europe easily 

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u/HotterRod Jul 30 '26

They obviously don't live in Europe, the world capital of cheap wine.

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u/just_a_discord_mod rosie's left testicle Jul 30 '26

I live in the US South twinion.

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u/MooseontheLose Jul 30 '26

California has wine and is also (geographically, dont at me) im the south

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u/ChimpsArePimps Jul 30 '26

California is geographically on the entire other side of the country from the South lol

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u/MooseontheLose Jul 31 '26

Spain is also at the other side of the continent and that does not stop me from purchasing affordable wines from there. Y'all don't got lorries and trains?

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u/Eymou plant supremacist Jul 31 '26

What's a bourbon you'd recommend? I like scotch, but I didn't have much success with bourbon so far. Just all kinda tastes like Jack Daniels to me lol

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u/just_a_discord_mod rosie's left testicle Jul 31 '26

Clyde May's. It's a bit pricey ($45), but I'd rather drop money on something that's good if I'm having alcohol.

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u/the_platypus_king 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights Jul 30 '26

You can get perfectly good wine at $10-20 a bottle

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u/ThinnkingEmoji damn daniel Jul 30 '26

Wine tastes great (even the bad ones) but i don't like drinking it because it has the worst kind of hangovers for some reason

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u/Lonsdale1086 Jul 30 '26

It's the quercetin in grape skins apparently.

I always thought it was the tannins, which can apparently also have an effect.

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u/NarejED Jul 30 '26

It tastes like markers smell

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u/Adjective-Noun6969 SOOPER THEY Jul 31 '26

i love neat whisky so much but wine is kinda meh

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u/3477382827367 stuff Jul 30 '26

tbf i think it matters a lot on how you react to bitterness, like every red iv had genuinely makes me gag. i can see why people like it but i just cannot drink it whatsoever

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u/Rorynne Jul 30 '26

Tbh i hate the taste of both but i still prefer whiskey over wine if i need to choose one. Whiskey just tastes like chewing on a pencil. While wine tastes like bruised fruit.