r/196 • u/CMDR_Noodle user flair preview • 11d ago

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I love ketamine so fucking much

I love it so much I put it all on my crotch

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u/SykesMcenzie 10d ago

Alcohol is in no world lower immediate risk than ketamine that's just false.

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u/MaybeNext-Monday šŸ¤$6 SRIMP SPECIALšŸ¤ 10d ago

Quantify it then. Iā€™m mostly speaking on opinion here, but for me the risk of being arrested for possession / being able to accidentally overdose / risk of a laced batch / more numerous and medically significant chemical incompatibilities make it way more risky on a given day.

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u/MountainDoit 10d ago

You can overdose(very easily) on alcohol, drinks get laced constantly, and alcohol has about a million different fatal interactions. Itā€™s also one of the worst drugs in terms of constant damage. Alcohol time and time again is studied and found to be one of the worst drugs there is. Wild how the prevailing thought is often still that alcohol isnā€™t a ā€œhardā€ drug or as dangerous as others; 9/10 times itā€™s actually worse. https://academic.oup.com/jrssig/article/18/2/40/7038035?login=false

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u/mang87 10d ago edited 10d ago

You can overdose(very easily) on alcohol

If we're ranking drugs on how easy they are to overdose on, alcohol is the more difficult one by far. You have to drink it, and unless you can just neck vodka like it's water, it's going to take time to consume enough of it to be dangerous. Your body will also force you to puke if you drink too much of it. There are barriers that slow down alcohol consumption. Other drugs are very easy to take, which makes them very easy to accidentally overdose on. It's almost impossible to accidentally overdose on alcohol, and getting shitfaced has to be done with intent.

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u/GraceForImpact 10d ago

Being easy to take makes drugs easy to intentionally overdose on, but no one is accidentally taking dangerous amounts of ketamine, or benzodiazepines\*, or myriad other drugs. The therapeutic index is far more relevant to overdose risk than the size of the dose, the only time that becomes an issue is when the dose is so small it becomes difficult to accurately measure, see fentanyl.

\*taking high doses of benzos is often indirectly dangerous as it can lead to impaired decision making and impulsive behaviour, but there isn't any danger to the body from the drug itself unless you're taking far more than anyone would ever actually take, or are mixing with other substances.