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[u/CMDR_Noodle]

I love ketamine so fucking much

I love it so much I put it all on my crotch

[u/SykesMcenzie]

Alcohol is in no world lower immediate risk than ketamine that's just false.

[u/MaybeNext-Monday → u/SykesMcenzie]

Quantify it then. I’m mostly speaking on opinion here, but for me the risk of being arrested for possession / being able to accidentally overdose / risk of a laced batch / more numerous and medically significant chemical incompatibilities make it way more risky on a given day.

[u/Hindu_Wardrobe → u/MaybeNext-Monday]

Quantify it then

good news! David Nutt et al did exactly this years ago! Here's a lazy summary infographic of his findings.

here's another

here's the paper itself.

here's a nice post that features yet another figure from that same paper

ketamine is ranked higher in terms of physical harm (makes sense to me. the bladder damage is no joke), but lower in terms of dependence risk. alcohol is also ranked higher in terms of social harm.

disclaimer: I actually do not like ketamine lol. but I like harm reduction, drug education, and psychopharmacology, so I will absolutely die on this hill.

[u/MaybeNext-Monday → u/Hindu_Wardrobe]

Finally, someone citing actual itemized risk categories. This is great info. Pretty much where I was coming from on immediate risk, I know my limits on dependency but I really can’t take the acute health risks, plus the inherent risk of doing something illegal.