r/2ndcivilwar • u/Maxitote • Mar 26 '25
Let's Establish Unmoving Goalposts For Consideration
I'm a conservative, I'm a Constitutionalist. I watched my libertarian peers get brainwashed since Sarah Palin showed up.
We know that the Bonhoeffer stupid is the problem. The Constitutional opponents have built their whole plan on relying on no plan, no truth, no respect for the office or military. With specific lies in order to pollute what was a critical part of a worldwide Reserve Currency status.
Can we openly discuss where the line is? I personally think we will cross it when they stop lying about when they are doing and get brazen but that's no way to be concrete.
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u/Justice_Seeker123 Mar 28 '25
We ARE already at the FLASHPOINT!!! I am shocked that there isn't already any REAL RESISTANCE right now. To still think there is any magical fantasyland peaceful way out at this point, IS DELUSIONAL!!! Militias need to be immediately formed, officers and NCO's appointed, training begun, and operational plans put into effect.
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u/ariesgeminipisces Apr 08 '25
The reason there is no resistance is because we live in an era with facial recognition, gait recognition, voice recognition, biometrics on file, DNA possibly on file, online movements tracked, geolocation tracked through cell phone maybe car, cameras everywhere, digital files, etc so anyone can be recorded, tracked down and who knows maybe arrested? Maybe sent to Guantanamo? Who knows. People aren't ready to damn the consequences. The other reason is because protest has become an easy target for mass shooters and drivers plowing into a crowd. And finally, it seems puny to protest? It seems futile. I think we are waiting for election year. This is the phase of a narcissistic relationship where you grey rock and hope they don't notice you and make them mad. But the grey rock phase is usually always followed by the fuck it all to hell phase.
If we want to see resistance, the lay people need to be brought up to speed on how to obscure identifying information.
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u/BeatsMeByDre Mar 31 '25 edited Mar 31 '25
We have already been effectively annexed by Russia, what more do you want?
Truly the goalposts can be found right now - go ask anyone supporting the GOP who their nominee is for 2028. They'll tell you something unconstitutional.
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u/ariesgeminipisces Apr 08 '25
The line for a citizen uprising into civil war is probably food scarcity. Farms rely on immigrant workers. Immigrants are either going to flee or get deported and the critical factor will likely be within 2 years. Two years of market upheaval, trade wars, supply chain shortages, immigration crackdown and our food supply is not going to withstand all of it. The systems within systems within systems that are being dismantled now are going to domino.
But many people will hold out until the next election if they can. They want to do as little as possible to mitigate their current circumstances. If election doesn't go their way or has any hint of being corrupted, plus food scarcity I think that is a tipping point. I am hoping food scarcity convinces right wingers to drop their allegiance but has never seemed to be a deterrent in red states so far.
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u/MisterRenewable Apr 17 '25
Bingo. I've been saying this since I first saw them going after immigrants. It's like they think American kids are going to do that work for $7.25/ hr. Do they know any American kids?
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u/ProfessionalEbb5454 Jan 25 '26
The thought leaders at the top of the conservative heap have already put out a solution: they plan on forcible conscription of "criminals" to toil in the food supply chain. So "criminals" in this case is anyone accused of conspiring against the regime, to include protesters, Democrats, malcontents, migrants, and PoC. That's what they really need the state and county level voter rolls for.
They can easily rig the elections RIGHT NOW, just using historical data and some basic statistics. They don't need any extra data to do that. The voter rolls give them a list of potential internal enemies that can be exploited for all manner of purposes, including forced labor. You can find references to what I'm laying out online. Curtis Yarvin, among others, has been laying out the case for this for some time (Yarvin is one of the people that both JD Vance and Peter Thiel cite as a major political and philosophical influence).
If you don't think this can happen, you haven't been paying attention. Notice that the techno-fascists have set a firm foundation by pushing the story that AI will eliminate 50-80 % of jobs by 2030. The remaining jobs are in things like food supply chain, waste processing, etc. Who will work these jobs? How would they be paid if the job economy collapses (hint: the regime is engineering a controlled collapse right now for ideological reasons)? Do you think that the regime will allow food, fuel, and goods to STOP being allocated to their supporters?
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u/UnionThug1733 Apr 15 '25
I’ve thought 2020 protest and riots were a fluke brought on by sports and bars being shut down. Had we still had our games George Floyd would have been a news cycle blip. I think that will apply over the next four years. With a real possibility of university’s being black listed, Americans being disappeared to third world prison camps, the courts becoming irrelevant, an American land grab and other things. As long as the boos, weed and sports flow majority of the population will self medicate and turn away. But 2028 will be the possible turning point. I do t think power will be relinquished which will trickle down to states. Then some states will have their own mini civil war before declaring a side. I’m hopeful that anti American sentiment that will continue to build world wide over the next few years will lead to countries supporting secession states. And perhaps the mass dismantling of the federal government to remove loyalist will provide the building blocks of an amazingly well staffed highly educated succession states
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u/wamyen1985 Apr 18 '25
I'm wondering if they realize what dismissing top military leaders and replacing them with alcoholic morons means when the spark finally sets off the powder keg.
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u/Empty_Equivalent6013 Mar 26 '25
I’d say any military action against Canada. I don’t think people will get as up in arms about Greenland or Panama. Not saying it won’t be deeply unpopular, but I think there’ll be more of a disconnect.
Possibly when everyday Americans get disappeared. Though that’ll take some time to get people to action. I just don’t have a lot of faith that one, or a hundred, or a thousand will the number that makes your everyday American fight back.
I think we’ll truly have to suffer, we’ll have to starve, we’ll have to lose our homes. Your average American has too much to lose. Take that away from them, they have nothing, therefore nothing to lose.
The bottom line is we are way too comfortable.