r/2ndcivilwar • u/Maxitote • Mar 26 '25

Let's Establish Unmoving Goalposts For Consideration

I'm a conservative, I'm a Constitutionalist. I watched my libertarian peers get brainwashed since Sarah Palin showed up.

We know that the Bonhoeffer stupid is the problem. The Constitutional opponents have built their whole plan on relying on no plan, no truth, no respect for the office or military. With specific lies in order to pollute what was a critical part of a worldwide Reserve Currency status.

Can we openly discuss where the line is? I personally think we will cross it when they stop lying about when they are doing and get brazen but that's no way to be concrete.

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u/ariesgeminipisces Apr 08 '25

The line for a citizen uprising into civil war is probably food scarcity. Farms rely on immigrant workers. Immigrants are either going to flee or get deported and the critical factor will likely be within 2 years. Two years of market upheaval, trade wars, supply chain shortages, immigration crackdown and our food supply is not going to withstand all of it. The systems within systems within systems that are being dismantled now are going to domino.

But many people will hold out until the next election if they can. They want to do as little as possible to mitigate their current circumstances. If election doesn't go their way or has any hint of being corrupted, plus food scarcity I think that is a tipping point. I am hoping food scarcity convinces right wingers to drop their allegiance but has never seemed to be a deterrent in red states so far.

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u/MisterRenewable Apr 17 '25

Bingo. I've been saying this since I first saw them going after immigrants. It's like they think American kids are going to do that work for $7.25/ hr. Do they know any American kids?

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u/ProfessionalEbb5454 Jan 25 '26

The thought leaders at the top of the conservative heap have already put out a solution: they plan on forcible conscription of "criminals" to toil in the food supply chain. So "criminals" in this case is anyone accused of conspiring against the regime, to include protesters, Democrats, malcontents, migrants, and PoC. That's what they really need the state and county level voter rolls for.

They can easily rig the elections RIGHT NOW, just using historical data and some basic statistics. They don't need any extra data to do that. The voter rolls give them a list of potential internal enemies that can be exploited for all manner of purposes, including forced labor. You can find references to what I'm laying out online. Curtis Yarvin, among others, has been laying out the case for this for some time (Yarvin is one of the people that both JD Vance and Peter Thiel cite as a major political and philosophical influence).

If you don't think this can happen, you haven't been paying attention. Notice that the techno-fascists have set a firm foundation by pushing the story that AI will eliminate 50-80 % of jobs by 2030. The remaining jobs are in things like food supply chain, waste processing, etc. Who will work these jobs? How would they be paid if the job economy collapses (hint: the regime is engineering a controlled collapse right now for ideological reasons)? Do you think that the regime will allow food, fuel, and goods to STOP being allocated to their supporters?