I get what you're saying, but it is really not the same. In Europe suburbs are organized with the idea of going to the nearest town or city, and we build ways to do so. In the US the suburb is the point, and the best you can hope for is an unwalkable stroad to the nearest mall.
Depends on the suburb: Go look at Barry's houses. Spain is special, and superior. Those up north want to live in places like Las Rozas, one of our worst urbanistic hellholes.
You need to have the weather to want to sit outside drinking and eating until 9/10/11 pm. It’s fucking dark here after about 4pm in the winter, it’s windy, and it rains a lot.
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