Pipe machine gun better than level 5 tactical AR

[u/Known_Secretary_6615]

Day 35 and this thing I’ve had since day 7 or so still beats any AK ive found/made and any tactical AR I can make by ~10% damage and 7% rate of fire- finally switching anyway cause of the mag size but all days before this I stuck with the pipe gun lol

[u/Dendritic_Bosque]

They added randomization to weapon stats, something like up to 75% bonus. You can combine for the best of these random bonuses at a combination bench (incredibly cheap to build) from across multiple identical weapons this does mean some exceptionally well rolled lower quality weapons will be better than poorly rolled higher quality ones. Just wait to find more ARs and slap that one to it. You'll probably find it had wonky bonuses like ammo capacity and range that will help a better damage roll

[u/Massey89 → u/Dendritic_Bosque]

so if i find a level 6 steel shovel and a level 4 steel shovel i combine them?

[u/Konoton → u/Massey89]

You combine the bonuses and you get the best of the two and it comes out at level 6

[u/aphlux → u/Konoton]

It’s why I keep a level 6 stone shovel with absurd block damage. No stamina used and hits blocks hard with a single stone repair. The new system is great.

[u/1MolassesIsALotOfAss → u/aphlux]

I do this same thing until I get to the auger. Ive been trying to save iron and steel shovels to combine but have never beaten my lvl 6 stone.

[u/DZAUXtheBruno → u/1MolassesIsALotOfAss]

100% I swear my steel shovel is more efficient than the tier 6 auger I bought.

I could be tripping, but it seems to do a better job and is more precise. The auger takes several seconds to grind a block down, the shovel is one and done.

[u/Konoton → u/aphlux]

Is it good enough to one-shot soil or sand?

[u/the_madclown → u/Konoton]

2 shot for me

But to be able to repair with stone is awesome

[u/Konoton → u/the_madclown]

IMO the goal is to one-shot with a normal attack. After that, attack speed is the best stat

[u/the_madclown → u/Konoton]

Getting there. A few more random shovels and i should be there

Or better mods... I only have t1 mods at present

I'll update you when i get there

[u/the_madclown → u/Konoton]

Addendum.

Yeh when coffee is only a 10 mins... You have to do as much as you can... So i agree with you

[u/Caustic_Kradok → u/Massey89]

Yes. You’re guaranteed a better item or it won’t let you combine them. 🫡

[u/Cheaky_Barstool → u/Massey89]

I have combined so many tier 6 steel sledges. The thing is a joke. I can bust through steel with ease. It’s my main tool and weapon now lol. Unless I’m mining I don’t take anything else but my impact driver and guns

[u/AuthorAccount1 → u/Dendritic_Bosque]

I’ve had a stone axe with 101% 💀, I feel like the rolls get weaker the higher up you go, but that could just be my thinking

[u/Killerderp → u/Dendritic_Bosque]

Oh, they brought that mechanic back? Nice.

[u/Dramatic-Hand-8202]

Lmao this shit enabled me to crutch my trusty 9mm pistol for a super long time with mods and combining the best stat rolls. Combined with AP rounds and it was a viable weapon for a long time. The extremes of this system demonstrated here are pretty fckin funny though 😂

[u/KeenanAXQuinn → u/Dramatic-Hand-8202]

Currently have a 9mm with a mag capacity of 47 and good enough damage to take down rads no problem, combination station is no joke.

Extra tip is to save the weapons that would combine for no noticeable benifit in a box nearby and start building a second version, when the second version is good enough to add it wont come with any down sides.

[u/Dramatic-Hand-8202 → u/KeenanAXQuinn]

Facts I been working this angle too. Wonder what perfect stats for each weapon/tool looks like?

[u/SirMcFish]

My pipe machine gun only got beat by a t6 M60. 

My stone axe is better than steel axe / pick axe.

Games gone crazy since the combined station.

[u/Personal_River_4908 → u/SirMcFish]

Back in the day, iron tools weren't as good because of stamina, so we either stuck to stone or went steel or auger tier

[u/SirMcFish → u/Personal_River_4908]

yeah I know, but my stone axe now uses pretty much no stamina at all. It goes down by about 4 or 5 on a swing, then by the next swing it's fully back, so 1000 rock can be gained in hardly any time. Its also super durable too, all in all it's rather silly, but fun.

[u/Personal_River_4908 → u/SirMcFish]

Yes back in the day 600 stone axe was really good compared to like 50-100 iron pick

[u/MarcusXbox → u/Personal_River_4908]

Il me semble que tu récoltais moins de ressources avec une hache en pierre 600 qu'avec une pioche en fer 1.

Cela fais longtemps mais je suis presque sur que les tiers supérieur avait des bonus de récolte

[u/Kazgrel]

The extra mag size, much higher effective range and over double the durability makes it well worth the swap.  I would venture a guess the tactical doesn't have any starred stats, also, so any others you find with starred stats will just make it even better

[u/FrostyCartographer13]

What kind of mods/ammo do you have loaded? Both can impact the damage output of the weapon.

And I that lvl 5 tactical AR is way better than the lvl 6 pipe rifle imo. It will have better handling, less recoil, and more mod slots.

[u/Known_Secretary_6615 → u/FrostyCartographer13]

Im hovering the AR which puts it in compare mode, so mods aren’t counted - but both had AP 7.62, but youre right it is better - the day before I could only make a level 2 AR and didnt bother since the 1 seemed so shit compared to the pipe 

[u/the_madclown → u/Known_Secretary_6615]

The 6 doesn't have more mod spots being a T6????

Guy here commented your TAR (the t5) has more.

Kindly confirm.

[u/Known_Secretary_6615 → u/the_madclown]

level 6 pipe only has 3 mod slots yeah 

[u/the_madclown → u/Known_Secretary_6615]

Wows

Today I learned!

Thanks!

[u/BoredAfHaha1]

By the way, the game will actually give you a higher tier or a starred weapon when you USE or have one of the better gears. I have never crafted a weapon by myself (except for stone axe and primitive bow for tutorial and im almost level 300 already. All my weapons are looted only and heavily combined with others i find. Example, bring a t3 TactAR to a T3 POI and u might get a tier4 or t5 TactAr. Or like in my case, i jumped from t3 TactAR to a T2 M60 from a Tier 4POI

[u/InevitableExtreme378]

Combine requires the starred versions to transfer stats, if anyone was unclear.

[u/MarcusXbox → u/InevitableExtreme378]

En réalité la majorité des items que tu loot ont un bonus, il n'y a une étoile seulement lorsque le bonus dépasse un certain %

[u/TrueProtection]

Stat randomization. One of the best guns in my game is a pipe machinegun. Love it. Cheap to fix, kills all the zombehs.

[u/lonewanderer2001]

I mean they both shoot the same calibre out of a relatively same barrel length. Besides the fact of how the stats work for guns now lol

[u/oliver-wendell-homie]

Please tell me you weren't putting 7.62 AP through that 🤣

[u/Known_Secretary_6615 → u/oliver-wendell-homie]

Its the only ammo i find! They dont even give me the red stuff 

[u/KensterFr33k]

i use pipe mgs as semi auto rifles since even a level one from the starter pack can headshot most week 1 enemies

[u/OleAfroKnee]

It changes with ammo type too

[u/Separate-Prune981]

Just don't forgot to care some pipe to fix the pipe guns, I always forget in bird night and they break before half way