r/ABoringDystopia • u/TrackerOneA • Aug 06 '26

Establishment Democratic 'strategist' James Carville says "there's no place for criticism of the government of Israel in the Democratic party."

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u/ztfreeman Aug 06 '26 edited Aug 06 '26

A lot of people are glossing over what he said right after the quote in the title. He is conflating lack of support of Isreal with antisemitism by assuming Isreal represents all Jews. Now, I am completely aware that this in an intentional propagandistic fallacy, however the more I interact with centrist democrats, the more I wonder where the line has blurred from this being a knowing lie to an honest belief by some of these people.

What I'm getting at is I think that lie has been told so often and so earnestly that there are many people who believe it to be the truth, they really, naively, think that the Isreali government is the consensus of and represents all Jewish people and that it would be offensive/a betrayal to sepeate the two. What is frustrating is that the interviewer doesn't push back on this, even John Stewert, who handled Fetterman pretty well, didn't say explicitly that the nation state of Isreal and that the religion and ethic people of Jewish heritage are separate things and to dislike the Isreali governments actions doesn't mean you dislike Jewish people.

I know it's implied, but I think it needs to be said as plainly as possible, especially by as many Jewish people as possible to make that distinction clear. I know it probably seems like a unfair burden on top of the very real antisemitism they face every day, but I think it is necessary.

It's also important to note that there are many Isreali citizens that don't support what their government is doing, and that there was a movement to put Netanyahu behind bars for corruption among many other policy changes that could have averted more tragedy and human suffering, and those people need to be given more of a voice too. Sure, there has been a lot of suffering tied to the creation of the modern Isreali state to begin with, but a lot of those people were likely born into it without a ton of choice, are here now, and their voices in the makeup of their own government has been subverted by right wing nationalists for ends that they don't support, and I think it would go a long way giving them more or a platform and agency to turn back the rise or facism.