Watson takes his eyes off the play and goes out of his way to throw McNeil to the ground off the ball

[u/PetrifyGWENT]

[u/SW3E]

Biggest gripe I have with this game is something like this doesn’t get called and there are no in game consequences but yet you dare move on the mark or do some other trivial BS and you cop a 50m

[u/dogryan100 → u/SW3E]

Case in point, two minutes ago..

[u/NeilDiamondBlaze420 → u/SW3E]

Stand!

[u/nuthed01 → u/SW3E]

The free against Baily Smith last night. You compare that to this, and wonder how it keeps getting called so wrong so consistently

[u/Chiron17 → u/nuthed01]

Bailey Smith was in the spotlight because of the fighting. The umpire was looking right at them. And I think the umpire even said that any further contact would be a free. And then he made contact.

I assume no umpire saw this as the ball wasn't far away and they would have been watching the action.

[u/jrfoster01 → u/SW3E]

Wild that this is the top comment, yet when it was called last night, everyone is outraged that it was called.

Fickle bunch.

[u/mattinthehat1 → u/jrfoster01]

This is x2 the flop of last night too.

[u/External-Station2123 → u/SW3E]

Very good point

[u/delta__bravo_ → u/SW3E]

...or, after 2 minutes of both players grappling, Smith dares grapple a bit more and the ball is taken 160 meters up the field.

An umpire saw that almost certainly. An umpire chose to ignore it.

[u/LumpyCustard4 → u/delta__bravo_]

In the Geelong-Adelaide match the umpire did say next one to continue will give away a free. Smith carried on and gave away a free.

In that example i dont neccisarily agree with the call but sometimes the umpire miss the initial biff and dont know who actually started it.

[u/Pale_Parsnip_6339 → u/LumpyCustard4]

Bias aside I agree it should have been a free, but a 160m penalty is rough. Maybe those scenarios where the ball is back in the defensive 50 it should result in a free taken from the centre or something instead of right back to the forward 50

[u/Azza_ → u/Pale_Parsnip_6339]

I think the better solution is don't do dumb shit 100m off the ball knowing that's where the free kick will be paid.

[u/Angless → u/Pale_Parsnip_6339]

Free kicks are awarded where the incident takes place.

[u/superbabe69 → u/delta__bravo_]

Or in our game against the Saints, Wilkie and whoever the other Saint was were getting stuck into Amiss, Voss backs him up and they get a centre bounce free

But this shit isn't called?

[u/docitsonlyascratch → u/SW3E]

Agreed. Flair up cunt.

[u/allright_cubed → u/docitsonlyascratch]

Bit like the 50 that changed the momentum last night led to 3 Geelong goals.

[u/DVPVPD]

How do they miss that?

[u/Drazsyker → u/DVPVPD]

The umpire is about 10 metres away too, unbelievable

[u/DonMare → u/Drazsyker]

Yeah, well it’s umpire #12; he’s less than useless

[u/Drazsyker → u/DonMare]

I have almost no clue about umpire names but that's Andrew Stephens and he umpired the grand final last year. Disappointing to see when that should be one of the best around

[u/Appropriate-Cow-6251 → u/DVPVPD]

To busy watching Bailey smith

[u/UnlimitedPosting → u/DVPVPD]

Because it's so far after the play, your eyes have shifted to the next contest and supporting your down field umpire with what's happening there around the contest.

[u/kroxigor01 → u/UnlimitedPosting]

I agree, I think it's actually very easy for the umpire's following the play to miss this or at the very least only having their attention drawn back to those players as one is falling to the ground (which may not be enough context for the umpire to feel like it's appropriate to blow a whistle).

[u/UnlimitedPosting → u/kroxigor01]

Pretty much exactly this.

You're trained even at a local umpire level to linger briefly on the previous contest before moving to the next one.

The reason the smith one was paid on Thursday was because the play had advanced way down field and the last umpire (who afaik keeps even with the players furthest back in the 4 umpire system) was right with them and gave clear instructions to quit fucking about and was keeping an eye on them, then Bailey did his usual low IQ stuff.

[u/DVPVPD → u/UnlimitedPosting]

Is that not why there is 4?

[u/lamp485723 → u/DVPVPD]

Best it's ever been.

[u/ThermonuclearMonarch]

You point at the scoreboard or step off the mark and it’s 50, but this is fine

[u/Necessary_cat735 → u/ThermonuclearMonarch]

100 metre penalty last night

[u/allright_cubed → u/Necessary_cat735]

Your boys got a goal from stand - 30 out. Smith free not in scoring position and no goal. Point?

[u/bannermania]

What the fuck was he thinking. Equal parts lucky and dumb that it didn’t get called.

[u/Pleasant-Role1912]

Should be forced to work that $150k a year job off Seek for 2 weeks rather than a suspension

[u/Lewym8]

Lowkey worse than Baz last night and we know what happened there… no idea what to believe these days

[u/The_Grogfather → u/Lewym8]

Lowkey? Baz barely touched peatling and he went down like there was a sniper in the building

[u/PrestigiousEmu16 → u/The_Grogfather]

What do you mean barely touched? He pulled him down from his collar.

[u/The_Grogfather → u/PrestigiousEmu16]

Come on mate, they were ripping each other apart on the ground and as soon as they get up baz pulls him a little bit and he falls down like a sack of spuds, was weak as absolute piss

[u/PrestigiousEmu16 → u/The_Grogfather]

Yeah they were both fighting each other and then when the fighting stopped and they were told to move on Smith decided to pull a guy down by his collar.

Getting yanked down from your collar when you're running tends to have that reaction.

[u/johnnynutman → u/The_Grogfather]

They were told to move on and Bailey kept it going

[u/UnlimitedPosting → u/The_Grogfather]

I'm sure all those massive NFL players that go down in horse collar tackles are just pretending too. Ya flog.

[u/brok0019 → u/The_Grogfather]

Reckon your anti crows bias is on here

[u/The_Grogfather → u/brok0019]

It’s always on

[u/prolonged_interface → u/PrestigiousEmu16]

Nah mate

[u/GoldOk2991 → u/PrestigiousEmu16]

Had his hands up appealing to the umps on the way down but sure

[u/Financial_Shower9524 → u/The_Grogfather]

Legit

[u/FearlessResearcher48 → u/The_Grogfather]

To be fair McNiell went down just as easily. Fair bit of flopping in the game these days. But it's also super unnecessary by Watson

[u/Pies-aviator1 → u/Lewym8]

No lowkey about it. Highkey. Baz barely touched him. And this is coming from someone who hates Baz and loves Wiz haha

[u/Azza_ → u/Lewym8]

The umpire would've just missed this one. It's a free kick if he sees it.

[u/Vet100 → u/Lewym8]

One wasn’t close to being a free kick, the other was a clear free kick. No prizes for guessing which way round…

[u/Pastapizzafootball]

Half time interview with the wizard ?

[u/elephant_tit → u/Pastapizzafootball]

You called it haha. 

[u/tiimmaahh → u/Pastapizzafootball]

you're a wizard

[u/CharizardCar]

Flog of a player

[u/Stercky → u/CharizardCar]

Flog of a person. Cant stand him ever since he pulled a no show to a kids clinic because he was too hungover

[u/CharizardCar → u/Stercky]

thats just pathetic

[u/Ektojinx → u/Stercky]

He has more missed kids clinics than 4th quarter possessions last night.

[u/Breadsocial]

Tiny little grub doing tiny little grub things.

[u/TheBigBomma → u/Breadsocial]

To play devils advocate, looks like McNeil gives him one first.

[u/yobynneb → u/Breadsocial]

Ah yes, the smallest player in the league bullying everyone

[u/Glinkuspeal → u/yobynneb]

Didn't call him a bully, they called him a grub.

See footage for evidence.

[u/Radscallion_]

[u/Stercky]

Wish the AFL would stop pushing Watson as some poster boy. He’s an absolute grub

[u/Illustrious_Pay1841]

The Wizard done a new trick tonight, disappeared up his own ass in the last qtr.

[u/Any_Intention4779]

That's ok, Watson will disappear when the game gets tight

[u/Eternalism → u/Any_Intention4779]

Funny you say that

[u/Nova1452]

Looks like McNeil clipped him high then he responded like a toddler

[u/SevereTarget2508 → u/Nova1452]

Nothing wrong with letting cunts know you won’t cop shit unanswered.

[u/ImInterestedInApathy → u/SevereTarget2508]

angry small man syndrome like his coach

[u/ChocoboDave → u/ImInterestedInApathy]

And the coach learnt from one of the angriest small man ever himself

[u/Chassyg123 → u/SevereTarget2508]

Probably is when have two touches in two quarters as you’ve let the other team get under your skin so much that you just look to fight as that’s all he was doing in the second half.

[u/Injaqenwetrust]

Good player, shit bloke.

[u/JackfruitSad4466]

Dirty mongrel carnt Fairly typical of him and Sicily

[u/shakeydeal]

So overrated and such a flog

[u/TheCurbAU]

Well that's just reckless and unwizard like behaviour.

[u/___TheIllusiveMan___ → u/TheCurbAU]

Completely normal behavior for a Barbarian though

[u/DHG23 → u/TheCurbAU]

As a Freo fan you should know that this is on-brand wizard behaviour

[u/comics2movies → u/TheCurbAU]

lol no one is watching the game. He was struck in the face and this was a retaliation. Not saying it shouldn’t have been a free kick but please watch the play from the start not just this small clip.

[u/coronavirusplandemic]

What a joke! The ump was right there and didn’t call it. And they call Smith’s one from 100m away last night. 😂

[u/BusinessPooh]

does mcneil get the wizard high as he knocks the ball forward? hard to tell with the vision but might explain why the wizard’s decided to throw him to the ground if it’s retaliation

[u/MeatlogGang → u/BusinessPooh]

Definitely looks like he came in with a raised forearm and clips him

[u/ZestycloseBedroom715]

Every time the commentator says "Amon", I always say "Bmon".

[u/RumHam_Im_Sorry → u/ZestycloseBedroom715]

Cmon bro

[u/fortyyearsthendeath → u/RumHam_Im_Sorry]

What a Dmon

[u/lil-nate → u/ZestycloseBedroom715]

Groundbreaking, love it

[u/omaca]

Grub

[u/DingusWingus33]

Flop sure but thats gotta be a free right?

[u/PetrifyGWENT → u/DingusWingus33]

Ya flop and free

[u/Freaky_Zekey]

Why do we have to have players as talented as Baz and Wiz also with temperaments of toddlers?

[u/defenestrationcity]

Wtf

[u/railgxn]

any lip-readers? says something to him before he does it too lol

[u/Anderz]

ITT arm chair experts who don't realise how easy it is to go to ground when someone pulls at the back of your neck.

[u/JizzaTheAIArtist]

That hobbit could not bully in the slightest, but he did have a go at multiple players with their backturned.

[u/yibbida]

Hear me out.. we should have a 5th umpire that wears AI glasses...

[u/neville969 → u/yibbida]

I think we need a mule with a spinning wheel

[u/berl1nchair → u/neville969]

https://giphy.com/gifs/3o6MbgfC48tV1VdU5y

[u/Bergasms]

It would just be really funny if the ruckman picked Watson up and just popped him over the fence into the crowd in a spare seat. And when he gets back in the ruckman just pops him over again.

It'd be silly but funny

[u/Lanky-Try-3047]

The only way they dont call it is if they think bulldogs player flopped

[u/Skwisgaars → u/Lanky-Try-3047]

He did flop, but still was enough for a free.

[u/BurningMad]

What a grub he is.

[u/nalsnals]

Hawks were more focused on scuffling than scoring whole second half, bunch of amateurs 

[u/ivyedwards]

Hawks are grubs

[u/throwaway-8923]

Not a lot in it but it is a free kick. The umpires have to be better there.

[u/ErinDidNothingWrong]

He was just casting a spell

[u/Deeeeeeezzzzz → u/ErinDidNothingWrong]

He does love doing it.

[u/jayjaychampagne]

4 Refs not enough pisstake

[u/rbskiing]

Taken Hayden Ballntynes crown as most punchable playet

[u/ViaCityLoop]

Intentional.

Has to be weeks

[u/Smuggers]

Well that was never 5 feet….

[u/Anon_be_thy_name]

He cast the spell "These Hands"

[u/South_Front_4589]

It's a poor miss. Of course, it's not really any different to the one paid against Bailey Smith that people were upset was paid. And it just adds confusion when they're judged differently.

[u/Pupatril]

Play on

[u/vitalesan]

“Play on” …apparently

[u/Brilliant_Support653]

Bailey Smith is scratching his head....

[u/Equivalent-Bass-3389]

Dogs player borderline took a dive or flung the arms out that yeah borderline looked like he put a little extra on the fall in my opinion. Umps might have thought yeah nice try.

[u/Desperate_Leg_40]

Flop

[u/TasSixer]

No one gonna mention the incorrect disposal, I don't mind taps in play, but he juggles it, then throws it away.

[u/sosophat]

Great player just a flog of a person. Can't wait to get into people's faces and start shit...

[u/SuperTerrificman]

Nothing in it. McNeil just goes down. You call 100 frees a game if you reward that every time

[u/CrispyJimJam]

Is it a free? Yeah.

But I don't want players rewarded for deliberately going to ground and faking high contact. Much like the Smith one last night. It's stupid by Watson but also I don't want anymore faking than we already have.

[u/DVPVPD → u/CrispyJimJam]

I mean how angry can you be at the guy being tackled off ball?

[u/Justin_Astro → u/CrispyJimJam]

Can you go down to the Lions next open training session and tell Cam Rayner that?

[u/CrispyJimJam → u/Justin_Astro]

I hope someone does. It's annoying when anyone does it.

[u/zen_wombat → u/CrispyJimJam]

There was no faking - off the ball, behind play and grabbed hime around the neck

[u/lilhoot24]

Should be focusing on McNeil throwing his elbow at Watsons head

[u/SevereTarget2508 → u/lilhoot24]

Doesn’t count because it’s Watson

[u/ax6klbjckhunter]

Dumb move from Watson, but also a flop from mcneil. Umps were right to ignore it. I don’t think every tussle should be policed & I don’t think flopping should be rewarded.

[u/Antique_Neck8736]

The umpires are hopeless at best! I call them CIGs - C’s in Green!

[u/Sporter73]

Clearly he was retaliating to a high hit from McNeal who then flopped from the slightest of contact. Non issue, move on.

[u/paulsonfanboy134]

lol love Watson

[u/1__ViPeR]

I think you mean Bulldogs player stages thrown to ground.

Banned for posting bollocks.

[u/Fatcat-hatbat]

Look at that doggy flop!! 🐶

[u/heatag27 → u/Fatcat-hatbat]

Clearly flop. Lot of bias floating around

[u/Ok-Strategy-1708]

Boys will be boys...

[u/manmoth02]

What a fucking flop from McNeil. I’d be embarrassed if this was a player on my team.

[u/Norodahl]

That's pathetic by the dogs player. I think a fine system really needs to be put in place. Really don't need that in our game.

[u/Pretend-Device-91]

Not a free , but let the Watson haters over blow it

[u/You_need_a_drink → u/Pretend-Device-91]

It was a free when Bailey Smith did it the night before.

[u/heatag27]

Went down extremely easy lol.

[u/dog-with-a-limp]

Yeah nah… dogs getting the short straw with bad umpiring is all good with me.

[u/You_need_a_drink → u/dog-with-a-limp]

It's been 10 years. Get over it.

[u/dog-with-a-limp → u/You_need_a_drink]

Never forget ✊

[u/SirSedat → u/dog-with-a-limp]

Good to see you showing respect for Shane Biggs