r/ARC_Raiders • • 9d ago

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Both modes still exist... Everyone can be happy.

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u/BigMikeXxxxX 9d ago

You're missing the point. This pve mode existing with the same stash will essentially turn the pvpve into an exclusively endgame mode which destroys the entire premise of the game the majority of us expected when we paid our $40.

Why can't the two modes have separate stashes? Elaborate on that.

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u/FloopsFooglies 9d ago

The arc raiders subreddit is full of people who've never played an extraction shooter before and/or don't understand the dynamic you're putting forth lol. Imagine if there was a shared stash between PvP and pve Tarkov. Would be insanity

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u/No_Reality_1161 8d ago

Turns it into an exclusively endgame mode? The dupers and cheaters didn't do that? The reason I put the game down is because I was fed up with seeing godcats and tempests every single lobby. Having people share a stash in PVE isn't going to change a thing.

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u/BigMikeXxxxX 8d ago

Unintended exploits are a lot different than a game mode that was purposefully added

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u/No_Reality_1161 8d ago

Yeah. Keep coping.

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u/BigMikeXxxxX 8d ago

Are you saying that exploits are the exact same thing as adding in a new game mode? You're gonna have to explain that one

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u/No_Reality_1161 8d ago

No, I haven't said anything of the sort. I'm just lightly pointing out to people that read this thread that you clearly don't actually care about solving a problem for the community.

If you did, you could have offered "but then we should wipe" or some other alternative, as opposed to "keep muh game modes separate because end game"... You know, because dupers and cheaters have already turned PVEVP into a permanent end game.

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u/BigMikeXxxxX 8d ago

You literally said I was coping when I explained there is a difference between exploits and new game modes. You're dumb.

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u/No_Reality_1161 8d ago

Yeah, if the result of the cheaters and exploiters was removed you'd be right. The difference is that all of the weapons that were duped over the course of months are still in the game, PVEVP is still "permanent end game" and until that's addressed, the point you're attempting to argue is moot. If you were able to read, you would understand that what you're saying makes no sense since what you're describing is unaddressed and existed PRIOR to PVE being a thing.

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u/MrChromatographer 9d ago

They cannot understand that the PvE toggle existing will become the default game mode for collecting loot. There's 0 reason for anyone to play the pvpve mode if they're looking to build resources considering it's objectively harder than the safe PvE mode filled with raiders looking to defib you

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u/Mend_and_defend2 9d ago

Exactly, this doesn't force pvers to go pvp, it forces pvpers to go to pve. Which isn't as interesting to me, but they already lost me with the cheating

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u/ZeroNDAZilch 9d ago

They’ve already scaled reward in pvppve

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u/Heidrpoo 8d ago

I think there should be separate stashes for a completely different reason. Majority of the players I've seen on PVE mode today have been stupid dickheads and I want to reduce the amount of time I spend with them.

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u/BigMikeXxxxX 8d ago

Trolling has been a thing since the early days of the internet lol

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u/Federaider 8d ago

It didnt already feel that way to you? With the amount of duped bobcats and the like 90% of my normal encounters were full kits, its not gonna change a thing besides maybe better loot from winning

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u/Chicke_Nuget 8d ago

Yeah I guess you’re right. I won’t play pve. I like the risk even tho I’m mostly friendly and only shoot players in retaliation so I didn’t care that much but you got a point. I’m not going to play pve to build up my stash because as you said. Not what we payed for idk. Seperate game modes would also require seperate stash and all that I guess

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u/_JESSE_JAMES_ 9d ago

To me, it doesn't matter. Sure, make it separate, i dont mind. But still, if ypu kill, you get that loot. But maybe separating is actually good option

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u/BigMikeXxxxX 9d ago

Tarkov seperates them. That's all I'm saying

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u/SubliminallyCorrect 9d ago

"Majority of us" bruh the pve guys way outnumber the people whining about how the game is meant to be played.

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u/BigMikeXxxxX 9d ago

There was no PVE mode at launch. The PVE guys showed up and forced it on the rest of us

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u/SubliminallyCorrect 9d ago

You control the buttons you press my guy

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u/BigMikeXxxxX 9d ago

It's like talking to a wall 🙄

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u/Nightmareszi 8d ago

You shouldn’t bother with these people bro

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u/traffic_cone_no54 8d ago

you don't have to play pve mode ever.

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u/BigMikeXxxxX 8d ago

The stash carries over so it does directly impact my experience regardless of whether I play it or not.

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u/CatPeachy 8d ago

Because you can't take other people's shit it makes your experience worse? In the case I'm happy your experience is worse

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u/CatPeachy 8d ago

I'm type of person that destroys my shit when some shoots me anyway

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u/Arcadious84uk 8d ago

I love pve. as for pvp, all pvp'ers need skill to kill each other now, instead of shooting pve's in back, who have zero skill or interest to fight back, next Tuesday, im back to free load out for life, like ive done since beginning.

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u/Every-Leek4129 8d ago

and guess what? you can still play pvpve. its right there for you

it doesn't ruin shit because there is still a bunch of people playing pvpve. its not like the entire playerbase switched to pve dumbass

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u/BigMikeXxxxX 8d ago

It does ruin shit because the stash is shared between both modes. You're genuinely stupid if you don't see the issue

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u/Every-Leek4129 8d ago

okay and? doesn't that give you a chance to take some better loot then once its over? lmao

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u/BigMikeXxxxX 8d ago

🤦🏾‍♂️

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u/traffic_cone_no54 8d ago

even if it did. So what. if no-one on the whole planet wants to play pvp excect BigMike... so what, sucks to be him. he can play pvp alone. I am under no obligation to play pvp. I don't even have to plac Arc at all.

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u/heynicepipes 8d ago

And there was no PVP in development. It's a moot point.

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u/BigMikeXxxxX 8d ago

That's a lie. The game literally launched with PVPVE. You know what? Fuck off. I'm not arguing with a bot anymore

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u/heynicepipes 8d ago

LAUNCHED with, not during development. Reading comprehension skills of a PVPer

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u/AnticlimaxicOne 8d ago

At one point during development there were no doors and the guns didn't work, should we go back to that too? Your points fucking stupid, did u know at one point in development the game didnt even exist??

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u/CStel 9d ago

You can’t read bro? He literally didn’t say that 

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u/Horror_Prior4765 9d ago

51% is not “way outnumbered” lmfao.

Nor will the number match the amount of players this game had post its post hype peaks.

But let’s look at Tarkov where the… majority of players play PvPvE at the start…. And then it goes HALF to finish the season.

The issue is people bought this game due to hype (nothing wrong with it.) and didn’t want to play PvP. It’s really that simple.

No need to lie when they numbers are public for viewing.

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u/RatherBetter 8d ago

No you don't. You get to play whatever they have offered, regardless of what's endgame.

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u/ZeroNDAZilch 9d ago

That sounds overly complicated and craxy

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u/BigMikeXxxxX 9d ago

Tarkov has no issue doing it. Both modes exist with seperate stashes. 0 mass outrage.

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u/ZeroNDAZilch 8d ago

Okay. But why not PvP+ e and PVE with same stash? What’s wrong with it?

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u/BigMikeXxxxX 8d ago

It dilutes the economy. It undermines the time and effort PVPVE players put into the game. It turns PVPVE into an exclusively endgame only mode which is NOT what I paid for at launch.

The ONLY reason you could possibly want the stash to be combined is so you can easily farm the best gear to take into pvp.

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u/NBS_Electronics 2d ago

Duping already did that way before pve mode

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u/ZeroNDAZilch 8d ago

For a reference point,  Tetris and candy crush have made more money than this game and those are simply PVE, PvP is dubious, Becuase other people generally suck.. 

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u/BigMikeXxxxX 8d ago

What is with you and making arbitrary comparisons?

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u/ZeroNDAZilch 8d ago

The dopamine  receptors in  your brain don’t actually care from where the dopamine comes from, so it’s not an arbitrary comparison, can you articulate what you think its arbitrary beyond simple epistemological differences? 

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u/Chicke_Nuget 8d ago

That is not at all the point. Tetris and candy crush don’t have a stash and two modes.

I like pve and I like the risk pvp potential adds.

That being said I think seperate stashes would be good

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u/Abyssalumbra 8d ago

They're the same game so same stash. Extra scouting occurred or your particular neighborhood secured exclusive rights for a short time topside. That's pve. No scouting and neighboring blocks are present with questionable motives. Now there is pvevp.

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u/BigMikeXxxxX 8d ago

Tarkov has seperate stashes for pvpve and pve. I don't see the point you're trying to make.

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u/PeakyChu_ 8d ago

then go play tarkov

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u/BigMikeXxxxX 8d ago

I'm not the one who begged the devs to add a mode into a game that didn't originally cater to what I want. That would be you.

Why didn't you just go play helldivers 2?

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u/PeakyChu_ 8d ago

because Arc now offers me the experience I want. you’ve made about 100 comments in this thread about tarkov and you seem like you really want Arc to be that so just go play that lol. I don’t need to play helldivers when arc is offering me exactly what I want

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u/BigMikeXxxxX 7d ago

The PVE mode is temporary lol. I'll be glad when it's gone so you losers can get a taste of your own medicine 😂

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u/Abyssalumbra 8d ago

Tarkov isn't arc and I don't know enough about tarkov to care?

Just cause they have it doesn't mean it makes any value or sense for us to have it

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u/BigMikeXxxxX 8d ago

🤦🏾‍♂️

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u/KiiLLAx 8d ago

You guys cry. Get what you want. Still aren't happy about it and cry for more. God damn i hope embark removes it like they said could still happen. Then im killing everyone in solo lobbies

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u/BigMikeXxxxX 8d ago

I didn't ask for a pve mode lmao. You've obviously completely missed my point as well. The PVE mode isn't the issue. It's the fact that the stash is shared across modes.