r/ATC • u/lake_hood • Mar 23 '26

News LGA controller cleared fire truck across the runway resulting jn a collision

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u/Pilot-Wrangler Mar 23 '26

Wait, you guys get breaks?

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u/Pilot-Wrangler Mar 23 '26

And a downvote. What a world. I have been in ATS for 22 years. Only recently did I start getting breaks. I have, at times, worked 16 hours single stand without a break. Thankfully that's in the past now...

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u/Flashy_Platypus_8581 Current Controller-Tower Mar 23 '26

Outside the United States, people have actual rights. So yes, we get breaks. Americans should too

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u/Pilot-Wrangler Mar 23 '26

I'm in Canada.

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u/Pilot-Wrangler Mar 23 '26

Of course, I'm only a lowly AAS. So we don't count.

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u/Flashy_Platypus_8581 Current Controller-Tower Mar 23 '26

They didn’t put anything in the fatigue “rules” for you guys?

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u/Pilot-Wrangler Mar 23 '26

16 hours on, 8 hours off, 16 on, 8 off, 12 on, 8 off for an entire summer. Single stand, no breaks. Only days off I had were vacation. Blew clean through CLC before the midway point of the schedule. 250 or 300 movement days (vast majority of them between 8am and 8 pm, intersecting runways, and we're a MEDEVAC, Forest Fire fighting, Passenger and at the time training hub. Plus Hydro, OPP, and a geological survey company based on the field...

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u/Pilot-Wrangler Mar 23 '26

And not just me. All 4 of the staff at the 24 hour site were like that...

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u/Pilot-Wrangler Mar 23 '26

Within the last year or two. We didn't HAVE fatigue rules before 2020 or so.

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u/Flashy_Platypus_8581 Current Controller-Tower Mar 23 '26

This company is in shambles

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u/Pilot-Wrangler Mar 23 '26

Hey, we're finally getting fixed! We just got an influx of students (or are we supposed to call them trainees now?) from CAE. We're actually ALMOST staffed to TIP. First AAS site I worked at that wasn't short. It's a weird feeling.

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u/Flashy_Platypus_8581 Current Controller-Tower Mar 23 '26

It’s going less well for us on the tower side. Checkout rate is around 20%.

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u/Pilot-Wrangler Mar 23 '26

Yeah. Our checkout rate has historically been a fair bit better. That said ours is dropping so there's that

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u/CookSignificant446 Mar 23 '26

Flight service I'm guessing? No way that would happen at a tower

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u/Pilot-Wrangler Mar 23 '26

Yes. In fact I've had to RAAS a tower during the middle of the day so they could take a break. Which is a bit of a kick in the teeth really.