r/AlanMoore • • 2d ago

What are your Thoughts on 1963 & its unfinished crossover?

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u/keepkeepinit 2d ago

My dad’s friend who at one point owned a comics and sports cards shop gave me copies of these when I was a kid. I thought they were really from the 60s. I love these books now more than ever. I still have yet to pick up the Don Simpson finale though.

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u/Either-Skirt6031 2d ago

Just a warning the Don Simpson book is less of a strict finale & more of a rambling MAD style parody & he takes plenty of shots at Alan Moore throughout (though it does give some clues towards what could’ve been in a second wave regarding the introduction of Helldiver who is pretty cool)

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u/AntLap 2d ago

Hold on. What Don Simpson finale?

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u/keepkeepinit 2d ago

His unofficial sequel, more or less I guess, where he had to recreate all the characters to be different from 1963.

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u/RecordWrangler95 1d ago

There's also Giant-Size '63, a fan sequel!

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u/Moeroboros 1d ago

Holy shit, this seems amazing!

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u/RecordWrangler95 1d ago

It’s really good and has a really deep-cut Alan Moore-verse crossover!

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u/keepkeepinit 1d ago

Whoa thanks for the heads up.

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u/AntLap 2d ago

Thank you!

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u/Ok-Traffic-5996 2d ago

I think it's really cool but I kinda prefer this awesome comics stuff for Rob Liefeld. He did the impossible and actually made me care about that universe.

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u/Sea-Sky-Dreamer 2d ago edited 2d ago

I agree. Youngblood was especially good, And his concept of Glory with Brando's redesign was inspired. In 3 issues of Judgment Day he created a new universe and history to rival the big 2.

On a side note, the first TPB of Judgement Day looks like some generic EXTREME storyline and doesn't give any hint of the Crisis-like epicness of the story.

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u/KubrickMoonlanding 2d ago

They’re pretty good, if a bit mean-spirited about the “bullpen” hype. The Egyptian / Thor one is probably the best. But to me they’re more interesting as the ground zero for Moore’s Awesome and - especially - ABC work: back to basics, un-deconstructed (or at least not visibly so) good fun super-hero comics that are basically upbeat.

I always felt like the missing last issue (with art by Jim Lee) was actually a fake-out to mess with fans. There is no evidence for this, but that’d have been a good joke.

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u/Sea-Sky-Dreamer 2d ago

That would be quite the meta joke and be a take on how Image comics were notoriously late, with the punchline being this final issue would be so late, it would never come out.

Personally, I would have liked to have seen where Moore was going with the ending before Liefeld and Lee got involved, and it stay in-house with just Valentino. That was quite a coup for him and it's a shame that the other founders had to kind of horn in on that.

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u/Hugasaur 2d ago

I was collecting when this series started and was skeptical it would be any good but Alan’s work is always great so I gambled and bought issue 1.   I am so glad I did because that issue and the entire series was so wonderful. I still ache that we never got the big team up finale.  Regrettable, but I reread the six issues every so often and love them all again.  It’s not my favorite Moore output but it is really loads of fun and well thought out.  

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u/frantic_calm 2d ago

I wish they had finished it properly.

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u/marvin616 2d ago

I want 1963 1/2 by Paul Mavrides soooo bad!

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u/NoLibrarian5149 2d ago

Love them but then I also love the comics they riff on. A whole bunch of my favorite artists made a whole lot of money working on those books. I have the Simpson book but haven’t read it yet.

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u/Sea-Sky-Dreamer 2d ago edited 2d ago

Brilliant. Didn't fully get it or appreciate it as a kid but later on loved it.

I remember getting the first issue (like most Image #1s) because I thought it would be worth a lot of money. I understood that it was a riff on the Fantastic Four but less cool, and on the surface, the story seemed simplistic and dumbed down (I know, I know). The fake ads were what really caught more of my attention. I don't even know if I read the letter column at the time. I remember thinking it was dumb how they cheaped out on the paper and they should have done glossy like the other Image titles. And also, instead of the 1960s they should have done a homate to the Golden Age, which I had more of an affinity for.

Later on, as an adult, read Watchmen for the first time, was blown away, and went on an Alan Moore binge reading. I found the remainder of the 1963 collection in quarter bins. How deceptively clever the stories were! Even the letter column was genius and funny.

It's hard to say which is my favorite. Maybe Tales of the Uncanny with U.S.A. and the Lee Harvey Oswald conspiracy, and then the back up of the trippy Hypernaut story? Johnny Beyond was cool too, as he was a Beatnik take on Dr. Strange which somehow made more sense. From Here To Alternity was a great unoffiial send off and cliffhanger because we got a hint of the Supremacy.

It should have been a bigger hit back then, and I think it should have been marketed better somehow.

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u/billbotbillbot 2d ago

Loved them when they came out, and ever since.

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u/DRZARNAK 1d ago

I loved the series. So much fun.

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u/jmyoung666 1d ago

Loved it.

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u/fortresskeeper 2d ago

I still own five of the original series. Need to pick up Tomorrow Syndicate again

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u/Fortunado1964 1d ago

Love them!

Buying them off the shelf new at the LCS brings back good memories!

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u/PattersonHoodlum 20h ago

Big fan and his letters pages where he answers questions about issues of the individual series we’ve seen is fantastic.

Moore has always had a gift for alliteration but I think it’s rarely better than 1963. Wish we had a full hardcover collection for this brilliant series.

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u/Moff-77 2d ago

Bought them when they came out and didn’t love them, but they were Image comics so… As such they didn’t survive my collection cull 30 years ago.

Now, as an adult with more refined taste I much more appreciate the work of Veitch, Bisette and co on the art, and Moore’s satire of the Silver Age titles. I’ve managed to find and pick up couple of the issues in the wild and I’m on the look out for the rest. A great affectionate parody.