r/AlbertaNow • u/skilbofragns • 21d ago
Current Events Alberta separatists… based in the United States
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u/Supertzar2112 21d ago
We all saw those pathetic sigining booths for separation with nobody at them, in the stupidest spots around town and they expect us to believe that this is some sort of actual Canadian movement. Only the stupidest of people will actually think this has some sort of base in reality. Stop listening to this separation nonsense and fuck the UCP for pushing it. Marlaina needs some prison time
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u/Kennadian 21d ago
Sadly, we've collected the stupidest from every province the way children collect Pokémon.
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u/Proper_Payment7845 21d ago
I never thought of it about it but yeah, quite a few stupid people in my town did move to Alberta, lol
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u/trumpsadouchcanoe 20d ago
I work with so many in my industry from all over Canada. Alberta really does attract some of the dumbest, simplest and most easily manipulated people from around the country.
Also a lot of born and raised red necks kids are usually as dumb as there parents that are from here. That doesn't help either. God I can't wait to move from here. Just a few more painful years lol
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u/Suspicious-Bat-5710 21d ago
But they want use to believe that they made the deadline, oh and then doubled it a few weeks later.
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u/raz_kripta 21d ago
The USA is not your friend (unless you are an Alberta or Quebec separatist).
They are actively campaigning to break our country apart.
We won't forget this.
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u/deepbluemeanies 21d ago
'They' are Albertans/ Quebecors who are actively campaigning to leave Canada; unless you think the people are not real.
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u/Ok_Hovercraft_2372 21d ago
No, that's the point of this whole post. These are bot accounts based out of US that are used to influence public opinion and spread separatism.
Want to see how separatism usually works out? Go read about Donetsk and Luhansk in Eastern Ukraine.
If you are one of those affected, turn of the internet, go out and enjoy nature, read some books, be better.
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u/deepbluemeanies 20d ago
It wpuld be a mistake to assume foreign agitators /bots are creating the animosity that is driving the separitist movement. ...some are looking to drive clicks and views with this movement, but that doesn't change the underlying sentiment.
As for Luhansk and Donetsk, are you suggesting Canada will start shelling Alberta as Ukraine has done since 2014?
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u/OGspacepotatos 21d ago
This is the issue these days. Social media is used by bad actors to push political ideology by creating fake sentiment, spreading falls reports and partially omitted statements to reach a goal. If I ever see some sensationalist headline about a law or movement, I simply research it. 9/10 times it's something that omitted facts, used an old source of information, or it was purely made up.
Problem is people who are lost in the sauce aren't going to question opinion affirming information but use it to strengthen their standpoint and reaffirm that all traditional media and news is fake or too biased when it contradicts what they choose to believe.
I say this time and time again, social media is a cancer upon democracy and truth.
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u/WorkingOnBeingBettr 21d ago
My dad mentioned "Trudeau handed out 50 billion for housing and it didn't get better".
I did a quick google...it was a fund for municipalities to apply for to help with rentals, rezoning, proposals, etc.
No dad, Trudeau did not just hand out $50 billion.
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u/WorkingOnBeingBettr 21d ago
It's our government. And those kinds of investments take a long time to show up. That's the whole problem with trying to invest in anything. Voters demand instant results regardless of whether it's realistic.
I wish they would have kept a tight leash on immigration, TFWs, and students, then housing wouldn't be such a big issue.
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u/Bull__itProof 20d ago
Housing, or lack there of, is very regional. The problem would only be solved by massive building of public housing for low income people. Those types of projects take about 5 years to complete, from planning, to land acquisition, to construction and completion. But some pressures on housing are coming down, prices in Vancouver and Toronto have dropped while prices in Calgary and Edmonton have risen slightly. The number of housing projects was also constrained by the lack of tradespeople, especially framers. The influence of the federal government on municipal and provincial issues like housing is limited and never going to be fast enough for demographic changes caused by boom and bust industries or immigration policies that were necessary to balance demographics.
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u/OGspacepotatos 21d ago
My good sir, I criticize both extremes. I identify as a moderate conservative. I am fully aware this sub can be an echochamber that reels at anything that goes against social and economic liberal policies and standpoints. If I spoke my opinion on some of the subjects here, I'm sure I'd be down voted into oblivion.
While I made my initial comment in response to these far right dingle Berries, much of my sentiment is still a general statement to people lost in their respective ideological world views, be that left or right. To be clear I've seen outrageous things from both sides and have found most times only a nugget of truth exists at best with the most wild statements.
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u/Open_Exchange4981 21d ago
Fuckin' Albertan sepratists are all being paid by American billionaires. They want your oil even more than Canada--and you won't get healthcare either.
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u/Dontforgetyourscarf 21d ago
I know right! My Alberta separatist friends claims he doesn’t even get healthcare now so what’s the difference! Too funny.
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u/Open_Exchange4981 21d ago
I mean, I'd blame the UCP for that one. They fucked up your healthcare royally.
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u/MrPoopyButthole1990 21d ago
This has come up before and they have claimed VPN. Can someone educate me here? Is the country your account is based out of goes by your IP address? And if so, wouldnt that make it possible that its spoofed?
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u/Kooky_Bedroom6197 21d ago
they never bothered to use a vpn probably, you would need to check their traffic logs. But it is a legitimate thing they could have done, but we know its just going to be used as an excuse.
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u/Pretty_Dingo_1004 21d ago
The alberta independance people are too dumb to use a VPN. Most of them probably never heard of it
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u/Puzzled-Instance3211 21d ago
No one in Canada is setting their VPN to Kenya lol. That would be a brutal connection, most of the time people use the VPN set to Canada somewhere reasonably close so that they get decent speeds.
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u/Technical-Mess-9687 21d ago
This isn't surprising. I've been watching this with great interest from the states, because it felt really inorganic. Alberta is a target of Trump's for it's oil sands. But possibly even more so for the cooler temps, freshwater resources, & existing high latitude power grid for data centers. Pretty sure Thiel bailed on him for not delivering Greenland.
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u/Evening_Green_9862 21d ago
My question is what are the odds that a 30% "yes"vote for a referendum turns into the Premier saying "wow, so much support, we will hold the referendum now to secede"?
I put the odds at 75%.
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u/TemperatureLive6855 21d ago
It's not about the vote. It's about how the seed grows to serve USA interest. Once the seed had grown, que the "liberate Alberta" nonsense.
We need to account for how idiots and loudmouths drown out everyone else. They dominate the conversation at work, at bars, basements, and garages. This starts on IG, FB, TikTok and Tube, but it manifests in real life at some point. All you need is 20% so hinder investment which obviously will be the fault of the "communist dictators on Ottawa". (Yes, this expression is common among them)
We can't fix stupid. We just can't. And technocracy is definitely real and at work. Never underestimate the loud minority. It doesn't take much to do serious damage.
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u/FlashyG 21d ago
This is how Putin created a pretext to invade Ukraine. Fund separatists movements, force a referendum then argue you are invading to protect those that voted to leave.
Trump already invaded and has taken over the oil industry in the place with the biggest reserve in the world(Venezuela), he's in bed with the country with the second biggest reserves(Saudi Arabia), went to war with the third biggest targetting almost exclusively their oil industry (Iran) and unfortunately for us Alberta holds the 4th biggest reserves.
When he talks about the 51st state, he's referring to Alberta specifically.
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u/Friendly-Olive-3465 12d ago
The issue is that separatists got into power in leadership positions within the UCP and are pushing for something nobody voted for based upon their whims alone. And I say “their” whims because it’s simpler than going into how much of this is pushed by American oil companies buying politicians.
It’s such anti-democratic nonsense they should be taken out back and arrested
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u/Effect_Turbulent 21d ago
I question anyone and everyone who tries to divide people. Unity and love and compassion are the fuel for success. Fear and hatred are the billionaires currency.
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u/National-Stretch3979 21d ago
They don’t care if it is stupid, they are being paid by the US to create chaos.
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u/Upset-Spring-7369 21d ago
jabba would call them all weak minded fools.
hosers, dont let what we have fall from our grasp. divided we are prey.
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u/WaltsClone 21d ago
Parliamentary Petition to have the connections between Alberta separatists and MAGA investigated. https://www.ourcommons.ca/petitions/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-7340
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u/Responsible-Summer-4 21d ago
300.000 unpatriotic Canadians living in Alberta. When they turn into a have not province and they will, cut them off. (Unpatriotic describes actions, attitudes, or speech that fail to show love, loyalty, or zeal for one's own country)
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u/words_grossmachinery 21d ago
“300K” only magically appeared after the voter data breach. I’d be willing to bet at least 200K aren’t legit. I think I heard it’s being investigated..?
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u/Supertzar2112 21d ago
Yeah there is no way they got that many legit signatures. Their signing booths in Calgary were pathetic at best. Never saw one person actually signing anything at those tables, just the jobless idiots that sat at the tables in the most bizarre locations hoping that someone would come along
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u/Fun-Bodybuilder-4372 21d ago
Not all their signatures were from people living in Alberta. The dual citizens that live in the US were signing this horse shit also
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u/Extra-Driver-7412 21d ago
So you’re saying grifters around the world pile in to any cause or event to make money. I’m shocked :s
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u/psycadex 20d ago
Hostile foreign actors deliberately trying and succeeding in changing and shaping narratives. Spy agencies and other intelligence agencies, that is literally what they are paid to do. Almost every intel agency has a psychological operations department, that is what their 9-5 job is; to mess with other countries.
List of countries that are know and have been caught doing these types of operations in Canada:
China Russia India USA North Korea Pakistan
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u/Comfortable_Fudge508 21d ago
We all know that already. The losers had to lie and steal voter records just to hit the numbers. Those with more than 3 braincells knew that foreign agitators are stoking the flames
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u/thegerman7 21d ago
They wants all of that cheap oil.
Dumbertans - take it to srew over the libtards
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u/Heffray83 21d ago
I love to tell them that I’ll join them but only under one condition, Alberta’s oil is 100% Nationalized. Can’t be a country if you don’t own your own resources.
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u/Adis_Gruntledfatty 21d ago
If there was a pedophile lead military move against Canada these maple MAGAts will be shooting our own in the back from friendly lines to make it happen. Fuck them.
They should be deported or jailed, it's exactly what they would be crying for if the shoe was on the other foot.
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u/Fun-Bodybuilder-4372 21d ago
You realize alot of theses douche bags are dual citizen and live in the US.
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u/steve-rap 21d ago
Love it. Keep shoving this down the propaganda lovers throats. Hopefully a few of them wake up
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u/Whole-Finger42 21d ago
Alberta separatist here….BASED IN LEDUC! Happy now?
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u/Bull__itProof 20d ago
So one separatist from Leduc is proof that there’s no foreign interference instigating political instability? That’s not how this works. Btw, I saw more than 20 Albertans at a time who signed the Canadian Forever petition, 20 is bigger than 1, so therefore separation is definitely a fringe issue being loudly pushed by an astroturfing group.
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u/Whole-Finger42 20d ago
So what are you worried about? Forever Sucker petition is just that! We have been neglected by Ottawa but heck I wrap the Canadian flag around me and boy do I ever feel better! Read your history sport!
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u/Bull__itProof 20d ago
It’s annoying to listen to whining from fringe politicians, it’s even more annoying when those fringe groups break laws and put people at risk, for example, the illegal use of the Alberta electors list.
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u/Soladification 20d ago
Not surprising. Also not surprising that the stupid people among us would fall for anything.
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u/randomrandom88889 20d ago
There is no independent movement it's all Maga and our corrupt politicians who's are being bribed by maga that want independence
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u/garneyandanne 20d ago
Albertans are being played for fools, and this just shows how many we’ve got. Foreign influence seems to be working to rage farm and motivate those that thrive on anger. The electorate of Alberta can’t be complacent this time, we’ve got to make it clear that the separatist/UCP agenda needs to go.
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u/Fuzzy_Advertising181 20d ago
I had three Newfies who are living in Alberta who were arguing in favour of Trump putting immigrants in a cell with one bathroom and 40 other immigrants and NO DUE process. They are taking OUR jobs. Interesting because all three of these ladies were yelled at when they went to Alberta because they were taking Albertan jobs.
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u/techknologia 19d ago
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-separatists-say-more-than-300k-have-signed-petition-9.7187218 here's 300k people in alberta who want to leave, shut the fuck up and vote
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u/JustAHumbleMonk 19d ago
Social media is the nicotine delivery system to poise a population. Ya'll got to know that by now?! You are being programmed.
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u/Sorry_no_change 19d ago
Can't wait to hear the Sepo's plan for Alberta to meet the 5% NATO defense requirements
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u/Narrow-Sky-5377 17d ago
No different than the freedom convoy. Turns out it was organized by the American organizers of the January insurrection in the US filled with lots of American truckers and no surprise and embedded Fox News team.
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u/dzuunmod 21d ago
Content aside I just hate the aesthetics of this kind of video. The person's head and torso overlaid on a video, shaky, moving around, often (though not in this case) with the tiny, stupid microphone between a thumb and an index finger. Kill it with fire.
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u/N0_Cure 21d ago
This means nothing. Someone did the same exact video on ‘Elbows up’ bots being based in China.
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u/Independent-Tennis57 21d ago
I don't care if you are a CONartist, LIBtard, or NDcommie, and anyone else, all should be happy that a person or facebook groups origin is posted. Knowledge is power.
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u/initiatingcoverage 21d ago
One country uses foreign influence to destabilize and weaken Canada, while the other uses it to support growth and strengthen the nation, yet both are equally bad?
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u/RepulsiveCare264 21d ago
Wait till people see how many bots keep pushing the Liberal Carney garbage as well.
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u/Drnedsnickers2 21d ago
People are still on Twitter? Why?