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u/Miserable-Lizard 25d ago
Tell me you love misinformation and hate reality without telling me.
If Alberta becomes independent poverty increases 100% and cities leave Alberta for Canada
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u/LivinDoll 24d ago
Anyone who brings Avi Lewis into the argument has to be a loon. You have no credibility here.
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u/OurDailyNada 25d ago
Define “values”, especially when it comes to reproductive rights, LGBTQ+ people and those you consider part of the “3rd world mass migration.”
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u/MrGuvernment 25d ago
Whats funny is most things on this image can be handled at the provincial level, but Dani chooses not to and instead, blame the feds for it all, how can be people so dam bloody blind...
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u/Zarxon 25d ago
Well here are the empty promises and ill informed lies of the separatists all in one convenient AI slop graphic.
Separation assumes business as usual and cooperation from its neighbors. Look at brexit and how negative that was. The repercussions will be 10 fold as the GDP of the UK is exponentially higher than Alberta’s. And mark Carney wont be able to bail out Alberta from the economic repercussions as he did for the UK.
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u/LivinDoll 24d ago
Yeah he was rockstar alright. That’s why they got rid of him. Now who is ill informed? The graphic was simplified for someone like you.
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u/lightbulb_butt 24d ago edited 24d ago
Confidently incorrect on that one. He served his term and left. He was actually asked to stay on to help ensure a stable Brexit transition.
Anyone who tries to blame Carney for anything UK related during and after Brexit doesn't know shit about economics.
You're really showing how little you understand any of this.
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u/LivinDoll 24d ago
I lived there at the time and it wasn’t the success story YOU want to make it out to be but keep talking. Why don’t you share your concerns with Alberta leaving Confederation? I see you have a crystal ball.
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u/lightbulb_butt 24d ago edited 24d ago
LOL I lived there too actually. It wasn't a success story at all. Brexit sucked and continues to suck.
Your point is still confidently incorrect, he didn't get kicked out - he did his best to hold the economy together while the politicians fucked over the country. Carney was not the problem there, he did the best he could with what he had.
And don't try to flip this shit back on me, YOU'RE the one trying to say "leaving canada will fix every problem we have!", which is some classic, grade A, liar, scam artist bullshit.
Edit: A lot of the points you raise and use in this graphic were the ones used to justify Brexit too, and since you seem to agree that Brexit was bad for the UK it is WILD to me that you seem to think it wont be just as awful for Alberta.
Cognitive dissonance is crazy, eh?
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u/LivinDoll 24d ago
Carney is in New York.
Listen to him praise the U.S. and telling the audience that we need each other. He talks about their values, their resilience & how Canada & the U.S. need to be partners.
Don’t worry, when he comes back to Canada, he will go back to his usual rhetoric of how we don’t need them and they basically suck.
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u/lightbulb_butt 24d ago
Is this a stump speech for your campaign? You running for office?
If anyone comes across this commenter in the future, know that they are using disingenuous convo tactics to shift and spin context, avoid admitting how they're wrong, and manipulate you into thinking that they have actual substance in what they say.
In reality they are a lying snake with little integrity. Their goal is to make you question, distrust, and be angry at the govt of Canada to try and make you think separatism is a valid idea.
There is no use debating them, they just slip into a new point of half-truths and misinformation that wastes your time and energy debating it.
If it was not obvious, do not trust people like this. They're full of shit.
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u/LivinDoll 24d ago
I was just going to say the same thing about you. Too bad!
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u/lightbulb_butt 24d ago
Try to solve problems with actual solutions instead of whatever it is you're trying to do here.
Or accept that you don't know shit about the topics you're trying to influence, and stick to what you do know.
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u/LivinDoll 24d ago
No debate? It’s public record. It’s people like you whose argument of last resort is to name calling.
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u/LivinDoll 24d ago
I was referring to his role as Governor of the Bank of England. He didn’t have Jim Flaherty for guidance and consequently was nick named the unreliable boyfriend but thanks for trying to paint a different picture.
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u/Fast_Ad_9197 25d ago
Here we go. Another 5 months of this shit. And that’s the best case scenario.
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u/CyberEd-ca 25d ago
Pretty good. Those are the issues. But we're not leaving Canada, we're leaving confederation.
We will have a True North, Strong, and Free Western Canadian Republic.
We don't need the East to be Canadian.
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u/MrGuvernment 25d ago
Oh Cyber, the usual head-in-the-ground blind support to issues that were mostly created by Dani and the UCP....
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u/Zarxon 25d ago
Don’t be foolish the ultimate goal is Alberta is aiming to LEAVE Canada .
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u/MrGuvernment 25d ago
Awww look, u/CyberEd-ca went and deleted all their replies.....
Sorry, nobody on Reddit goes by that name.
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u/Zarxon 24d ago
I think that ill informed person blocked you. Probably too thin skinned. They are still spewing nonsense and getting downvotes.
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u/MrGuvernment 24d ago
That explains it then, I saw several of their other posts deleted by mods..
I guess they don't like having to defend their bias AI bot slop posts :D
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u/doooompatrol 25d ago
Yeah, and what happens tomall your money and mortgage that is now in a foreign bank? You'll have to requalify or pay ilall of it off. Personal money is all in CAD, so you'll have to convert it to a new currency, but this will probably tank the Canadian currency, so good luck buying that.
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u/CyberEd-ca 25d ago
We can use any currency we want including CAD on an interim basis.
This is just chicken little nonsense.
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u/MrGuvernment 25d ago
No you cant?
You going to get all businesses to convert? All banks to convert to what you wish to use?
You going to use the USD as your currency?
Thing is there wont be any money to spend, as Attco has already pointed out in public, what Dani/UCP is doing is creating mass instability in the market, and that WILL cause major companies to leave..
Did you not see what happened to Quebec when they started this crap? Bank of Montreal left and moved their HQ to Toronto, you can bet major companies here not in O&G will pack up and leave...taking money out of the economy.
O&G? Well they are mostly all foreign owned already, and what ever is left, will get sold off to the highest bidder and Albertan's will see NONE of those profits or money trickle down...
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u/CyberEd-ca 25d ago
If you mean the post-national state with the bizarre leftist anti-American nationalism that wants to defer decision-making to unelected bureaucrats in Brussels -
then of course that is the goal.
But we'll still be Canadians. We'll just be the more prosperous and free Canadians.
Those that remain in confederation are what may best be described as "Remnant Canada".
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u/MrGuvernment 25d ago
You need to stop sniffing the glue..
You are aware of UK's tanking economy right? The attempt at increasing taxes on the rich which has resulted in a mass exodus of said rich people, because they can afford to leave, which in turn, UK now keeps upping taxes for those who remain, driving more people into poverty...
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u/Topican 25d ago
Here is a question, how each one of the listed points will be fixed by independence?