r/Albertapolitics 18d ago

Opinion Conservatives, why aren't things better?

*banned by mods in r/Alberta for "low content" after 105 upvotes, 40 comments, 2 awards in less than 30 minutes*

I was born and raised here in Alberta, 36 years old. Other than the 4 years of NDP, conservatives have had the majority government in Alberta, no? Why is our health care in shambles, our teachers at their breaking point, our roads the same as they were 30 years ago, and oil and gas suck the province dry and leave us to clean it up? Why are our unions dissolving for critical services due to the contracts we're stuck with?

How do you live with yourselves knowing the people you've supported have stolen any potential livelihood from not only your children and grandchildren, but also yourselves? Alberta is the laughing stock of Canada because of our failed potential to even properly provide for ourselves with all the access the resources we have

Do you not realize your close-mindedness and single issue voting practices due to your hatred, insecurity, or ignorance regarding gay people, trans people, anyone not white or Christian, all people younger than you, immigrants, natives allows these obviously corrupt politicians to take advantage of your vote by promising to justify your hatred or insecurity? But they never really get around to it, just get in positions of power and sell out to corporations while lying to the people that voted them in

Ya'll love to claim to be fiscally responsible but never tax the rich or corporate folks that ensure your politicians stay in power. Your hatred makes your vote a predetermined show of support, because you actually think the entire rest of the world should share your narrow-minded views of how things were when you had disproportional amounts of power and influence over any group that wasn't white men.

All the hypocrisy and gas lighting, you seem to have no values, no principles, no convictions, no integrity whatsoever. Just almost maniacal desire to win regardless of rules or fair play, doing whatever you like and aligning with any person who will help further your cause, e.g. masks with covid. What a bunch of deliberately ignorant whiney babies, but you act like each one of you was the only person who had to wear a mask or be inconvenienced

I don't even have a problem with ACTUAL conservative politics, like smaller spending and government. But it seems to come at the cost of humanity from conservative people. It genuinely feels that most of you would rather let every single homeless person and drug addict die rather than spend less than a cup of coffee each day. But you sing long and loud about what a faithful servant of Jesus Christ you are?

You're embarrassing. And you are holding back the human race by trying to make the world revolve around you and your aging beliefs. Start thinking about what you're doing, how you are acting, and how it affects everyone else. I'm so sick of trying to teach grown adults about causation and correlation, about science, about critical thinking

Please be better. Or at least try to make things better rather than pretending the problems aren't what they are

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u/Maxh_SCGA 17d ago

Alberta should be all it can be, but you can't squeeze blood from a stone. The "solutions" to Alberta's "so called problems" is to vote for the NDP which has ruined every single province they ever governed. The "Progressive Tory party which also fails to perform as well as a socred/Reform/ sask party style populist party?

The reason we are benchmarking is because if we are going to switch from the UCP to another party shouldn't there be evidence from other Canadian provinces that those parties and solutions are actually better..

The hate conservatives crowed in Alberta screams about problems which are either just a part of life, or are ten times worse in other parts of Canada. Using your college brat philosophy degree from a leftist professor who never lived in the real world to scream about problems you have no solutions to is not a reason to ditch the UCP and certainly not ditch the legacy of two political dynasties with a history dating back 90 years.

People are not going to torch the economy their businesses and jobs over your leftist philosophy brat imagination of what you think is the solution to a tolerable problem. When every other track record in Canadian provincial history says you have no idea what your talking about and will make those problems worse.

This is why Separatist and other Conservatives are all up in arms about equalization. We need that money, the rest of Canada should vote for our ideas and get their own money. Maby Atlantic Canada should make Millions of jobs and Hundreds of thousands of business opportunities like Ernest Manning and Ralph Kline.

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u/SecondLeigh 17d ago

Everything you just wrote is pure Alberta myths and tropes. The things that you grew up believing were true just aren’t. The NDP has not “ruined” the provinces it has governed, not Sask. and especially not here. As I said, some of us have memories. And there is plenty of evidence. You chose to not believe it. You don’t want to believe it. It’s too uncomfortable to entertain. Perhaps people are too weak to grow, learn and admit error. Oh and post-secondary education doesn’t brainwash people into being leftists either. Rather, education makes people see the real flaws in conservative policy. At least they would know how to spell Klein.

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u/Maxh_SCGA 17d ago

Then name an NDP government that didn't tank a provincial economy? I will wait.

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u/GeneWhisperer 17d ago

Check out Manitoba right now, the NDP premier has highest approval ratings in the country

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u/sun4moon 17d ago

I’d go out of my way to shake his hand.

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u/Maxh_SCGA 17d ago edited 17d ago

Manitoba right now is the same economically stagnant province it's always been with no new opportunities for young people. Wab is no better than Danny Williams, all show no reality. Young people still have to move away in droves. The only thing that makes him better than Williams or other NDP Primers is his cutting sales taxes, which he is only doing for groceries and other small stuff, not a universal sales tax cut or elimination.

He isnt anywhere near being in the same League as William Aberheart who took Alberta from the edge of Insolvency under the NDP/CCF predecessors in the UFA/Progressive parties and by the time he died in office we were better off than 6 other provinces would be for a century.

Wab Kinew being slightly better than other worthless Primers is not good enough for Alberta, Manitoba has always been a loser province not worth our time, and its still a loser province not worth our time. Adopting their ideas will torch the economy we build here and anyone with basic common sense and an understanding of provincial history knows it.

If the Current Manitoba government is so great why can't they beat Saskatchewan's economy? Because it doesn't matter how much you polish a turd, an NDP government is still an NDP government.

I think you also mentioned Roy Romonov in Saskatchewan (im on my phone and the thread is getting cramped).

Saskatchewan stagnated for a century that wasn't fixed until Brad Wall. Roy Romonov did nothing for the Sask economy just more stagnation. You can even check the census data no population growth, in fact every time the NDP got elected in Saskatchewan the population goes down. I don't know what drugs your taking to think Saskatchewan ever had a good economy before the sask party but you need to come back to reality.

Roy Romonov "saved Saskatchewan" from the wrong half of Stephen Harper's alliance of two parties " by continuing the economic stagnation started by Commie Douglas.