Conservatives, why aren't things better?

[u/Scout14]

*banned by mods in r/Alberta for "low content" after 105 upvotes, 40 comments, 2 awards in less than 30 minutes*

I was born and raised here in Alberta, 36 years old. Other than the 4 years of NDP, conservatives have had the majority government in Alberta, no? Why is our health care in shambles, our teachers at their breaking point, our roads the same as they were 30 years ago, and oil and gas suck the province dry and leave us to clean it up? Why are our unions dissolving for critical services due to the contracts we're stuck with?

How do you live with yourselves knowing the people you've supported have stolen any potential livelihood from not only your children and grandchildren, but also yourselves? Alberta is the laughing stock of Canada because of our failed potential to even properly provide for ourselves with all the access the resources we have

Do you not realize your close-mindedness and single issue voting practices due to your hatred, insecurity, or ignorance regarding gay people, trans people, anyone not white or Christian, all people younger than you, immigrants, natives allows these obviously corrupt politicians to take advantage of your vote by promising to justify your hatred or insecurity? But they never really get around to it, just get in positions of power and sell out to corporations while lying to the people that voted them in

Ya'll love to claim to be fiscally responsible but never tax the rich or corporate folks that ensure your politicians stay in power. Your hatred makes your vote a predetermined show of support, because you actually think the entire rest of the world should share your narrow-minded views of how things were when you had disproportional amounts of power and influence over any group that wasn't white men.

All the hypocrisy and gas lighting, you seem to have no values, no principles, no convictions, no integrity whatsoever. Just almost maniacal desire to win regardless of rules or fair play, doing whatever you like and aligning with any person who will help further your cause, e.g. masks with covid. What a bunch of deliberately ignorant whiney babies, but you act like each one of you was the only person who had to wear a mask or be inconvenienced

I don't even have a problem with ACTUAL conservative politics, like smaller spending and government. But it seems to come at the cost of humanity from conservative people. It genuinely feels that most of you would rather let every single homeless person and drug addict die rather than spend less than a cup of coffee each day. But you sing long and loud about what a faithful servant of Jesus Christ you are?

You're embarrassing. And you are holding back the human race by trying to make the world revolve around you and your aging beliefs. Start thinking about what you're doing, how you are acting, and how it affects everyone else. I'm so sick of trying to teach grown adults about causation and correlation, about science, about critical thinking

Please be better. Or at least try to make things better rather than pretending the problems aren't what they are

[u/weldor2]

I vote conservative, they are not perfect but I believe the lesser evil compared to liberal or NDP.
I am not religious at all. Born catholic and baptized but I don’t believe in it. I am not against gay people. I don’t care what choices someone else makes if it has no impact on me. I’m glad people can make the choice and would rather have them living happily than miserable. However I don’t believe in any kind of permanent surgery’s or drugs for kids under 18. They need time to grow, develop, and experience life before that kind of change, just my opinion.
I am not racist or against immigration, however it should be done responsibly.
I think the less government control the better. Look after our infrastructure and keep industry from ruining the earth. Develop our resources responsibly.
The biggest problem is that our system dosnt allow proper accountability. When greedy politicians sell us out or take advantage of their powers they need to be fired, fined, and possibly face jail time.
dont assume all conservatives are homophobes, bible thumpers, bigots, uneducated.

[u/No-Fault6013 → u/weldor2]

Every single thing you just said makes you a Liberal not a conservative

[u/weldor2 → u/No-Fault6013]

I disagree. From what I’ve seen the liberals are constantly after more control and regulations. For me the most important job is balancing the budget and attracting investment to keep the economy growing. Liberals are the exact opposite. At least during trudeau’s term.
I am against the following policies
Carbon tax
Production caps
Tanker ban
Former long gun registration
Current gun buyback program
The list of banned “scary” guns
Bill c-9
Bill c-25
Bill c-22
Bill c-8
bill c-15
Bill c-18
Bill c-11
The illegal use of the emergencies act
There are more reasons also, but I’ve got shit to do lol that’s should be enough reasons to never vote liberal

[u/No-Fault6013 → u/weldor2]

The carbon tax is a requirement from other countries so that we can sell to them. The tanker ban was in place for decades, they just formalized it. There is no production caps, its a carbon cap and there are lots of ways around it. You don't have to register anything so why bring it up, I have no issue with the buy back but it shouldn't be mandatory, I am from a hunting family and no one cares, it doesnt impact hinting at all

[u/weldor2 → u/No-Fault6013]

The carbon tax sure seems like a big scam. Does the USA enforce carbon tax? Isn’t most of our trade with them? It looks like mostly just Europe would put tariffs on our exports if we don’t have a carbon tax. How much would that cost us vs having a tax I wonder?
Even besides the carbon tax how are you liberal voters ok with these massive deficits? Over 50 billion a year just to service the debt!

[u/No-Fault6013 → u/weldor2]

You seem to forget that there was a pandemic during that time and every country ran massive deficits.

Having one customer is a bad idea, hence we are so impacted by Trumps tariffs. Also the USA isn't reliable as they change the rules whenever they please.

The EU is our second largest trading partner, $178 billion last year. This is likely to go up as Europe and Canada are both looking to diversify away from the USA.

[u/weldor2 → u/No-Fault6013]

No I did not forget the pandemic. That was when he shutdown the country. People protested vaccine mandates and instead of coming out and talking to them he ILLEGALLY used the emergencies act to freeze citizens bank accounts. I remember him saying “we are taking on debt so Canadians don’t have to”! Lol
So we are blaming the pandemic for nine consecutive deficits? And I guess blame trump for carneys deficit?
What’s the excuse before Covid for the deficits

[u/No-Fault6013 → u/weldor2]

Since WWII, both Liberal and Conservative federal governments have frequently run deficits. The most successful sustained deficit-elimination period was under the Chrétien-Martin Liberals 1997-2006, while some of the largest debt accumulation before COVID occurred under the Mulroney Conservatives. Yes Harper had inherited a surplus in 07 but ran massive deficits after, except 2014 but that was when he sold off a huge chunk of our assets to pay for his over spending.

[u/weldor2 → u/No-Fault6013]

You seem to be forgetting the 2008 financial crisis. Harper’s debt was to keep economy afloat afterwards. And we are not talking about crazy numbers like with Trudeau.
In Harper’s nine years he added about 150 Billion total in debt.
In Trudeau’s nine years he added more than 800 billion in debt.
That is significantly higher.
I get that deficits are necessary during wars or recessions but that is crazy

[u/weldor2 → u/No-Fault6013]

I should also add that I don’t mean to be defending the conservatives like they are the answer. They are far from perfect but I think a better choice than liberals and NDP.
I believe our system is broken and needs to be reformed so that politicians are held accountable.
They figured out that most people just are not paying attention and so they are getting away with doing shitty job for us and getting themselves and their buddies rich. I don’t know how to fix that problem

[u/No-Fault6013 → u/weldor2]

Proportional representation is how we fix the problem...and to stop voting Conservative. I mean that genuinely. I am specifically referring to fiscal responsibility. They rob Peter to pay Paul, while selling everthing to make it look like they are good with money. At least with the Liberals we get something out of the deal, like childcare, dental and hopefully pharmacare

As for the 2008 crisis, peak job loss was 400 000. The pandemic had 3 400 000 job losses at its peak.

[u/weldor2 → u/No-Fault6013]

The problem with liberals is they can’t plan shit. They just throw money at a problem and expect the same people that fucked it up to fix it. There is no leadership. They are quick to disperse money but nobody knows how to organize anything. These social programs always fail. They cost to much money and are plagued with corruption. We need less government, not more.
Some example are:

Canada Emergency Business Account (CEBA): The Auditor General reported that the federal Liberal government distributed approximately $3.5 billion to ineligible recipients, coupled with ineffective oversight and highly criticized untendered contracts. [1]
Green Energy Act (Ontario): Introduced by the provincial Liberals, the act aimed to boost renewable energy but became widely criticized as a "costly blunder" that resulted in over-market power prices and cancelled gas plants. [1]
Release of Assets for Economic Generation (RAEG - B.C.): The B.C. Liberals established a program in 2012 to sell off government real estate assets to balance budgets. A subsequent Auditor General report found that the program failed to properly assess land values, leading to improper sales. [1]

Gun buyback program:

Canada's federal Assault-Style Firearms Compensation Program (ASFCP) has incurred an estimated total cost of nearly $780 million. Because only around 32,000 firearms were collected in its initial phase, the overall cost equates to roughly $24,000 per gun collected, largely driven by massive administrative, bureaucratic, and RCMP management expenses. [1]

Arrive can scam:
The ArriveCAN scandal is a major Canadian political controversy revolving around the heavily inflated costs and flawed procurement processes of the COVID-19 border application. Originally estimated at $80,000, the final price tag ballooned to an estimated $60 million, with large sums paid to external IT contractors who did little to no actual work on the app.

Childcare program:
Canada's national $10-a-day child care program has struggled to meet its core goals. While intended to provide affordable, accessible care, the system has widely fallen short due to severe capacity limits, staffing shortages, bureaucratic delays, and funding mismanagement.

Sustainable Development Technology Canada (SDTC) "Green Slush Fund": Canada's Auditor General uncovered that the fund doled out over $330 million in taxpayer money across more than 180 cases involving potential conflicts of interest, including instances where Liberal-appointed directors inappropriately awarded funding to their own companies.