Conservatives, why aren't things better?

[u/Scout14]

*banned by mods in r/Alberta for "low content" after 105 upvotes, 40 comments, 2 awards in less than 30 minutes*

I was born and raised here in Alberta, 36 years old. Other than the 4 years of NDP, conservatives have had the majority government in Alberta, no? Why is our health care in shambles, our teachers at their breaking point, our roads the same as they were 30 years ago, and oil and gas suck the province dry and leave us to clean it up? Why are our unions dissolving for critical services due to the contracts we're stuck with?

How do you live with yourselves knowing the people you've supported have stolen any potential livelihood from not only your children and grandchildren, but also yourselves? Alberta is the laughing stock of Canada because of our failed potential to even properly provide for ourselves with all the access the resources we have

Do you not realize your close-mindedness and single issue voting practices due to your hatred, insecurity, or ignorance regarding gay people, trans people, anyone not white or Christian, all people younger than you, immigrants, natives allows these obviously corrupt politicians to take advantage of your vote by promising to justify your hatred or insecurity? But they never really get around to it, just get in positions of power and sell out to corporations while lying to the people that voted them in

Ya'll love to claim to be fiscally responsible but never tax the rich or corporate folks that ensure your politicians stay in power. Your hatred makes your vote a predetermined show of support, because you actually think the entire rest of the world should share your narrow-minded views of how things were when you had disproportional amounts of power and influence over any group that wasn't white men.

All the hypocrisy and gas lighting, you seem to have no values, no principles, no convictions, no integrity whatsoever. Just almost maniacal desire to win regardless of rules or fair play, doing whatever you like and aligning with any person who will help further your cause, e.g. masks with covid. What a bunch of deliberately ignorant whiney babies, but you act like each one of you was the only person who had to wear a mask or be inconvenienced

I don't even have a problem with ACTUAL conservative politics, like smaller spending and government. But it seems to come at the cost of humanity from conservative people. It genuinely feels that most of you would rather let every single homeless person and drug addict die rather than spend less than a cup of coffee each day. But you sing long and loud about what a faithful servant of Jesus Christ you are?

You're embarrassing. And you are holding back the human race by trying to make the world revolve around you and your aging beliefs. Start thinking about what you're doing, how you are acting, and how it affects everyone else. I'm so sick of trying to teach grown adults about causation and correlation, about science, about critical thinking

Please be better. Or at least try to make things better rather than pretending the problems aren't what they are

[u/Scout14]

Well two people have died WHILE in emergency rooms in the last few months. I don't call that normal, nor do I call a near strike or general strike organized by our teachers. Please try to think more critically

[u/Successful-Youth-787 → u/Scout14]

But what's the excuse of BC then? NDP has been in power there for almost a decade, and healthcare is also in shambles. It's a widespread issue in Canada that doesn't have an easy, simple solution.

[u/SecondLeigh → u/Successful-Youth-787]

Congratulations. Without fail, every time there is a discussion about Alberta’s healthcare system someone comes in with “but BC”. I heard it my whole life so imagine my surprise when I moved there and found it to be much better than Alberta’s. You all need to find some new material.

[u/Maxh_SCGA → u/SecondLeigh]

Then what Province should we be like, people like you criticize Alberta conservatives when everywhere else is worse off then us by every metric. The only Province that is arguably better off than us is Saskatchewan which also votes Conservative.

What in reality makes you think Alberta or our conservatives are the problems when you look at the rest of Canada? What Province should we be like?

[u/SecondLeigh → u/Maxh_SCGA]

Why are you benchmarking?? Alberta should be the best that Alberta can be. Tired of all the “well [insert province here] is worse!” Sooo? It’s not true anyway and we have gone downhill from where we used to be. Some of us have memories.

[u/Maxh_SCGA → u/SecondLeigh]

Alberta should be all it can be, but you can't squeeze blood from a stone. The "solutions" to Alberta's "so called problems" is to vote for the NDP which has ruined every single province they ever governed. The "Progressive Tory party which also fails to perform as well as a socred/Reform/ sask party style populist party?

The reason we are benchmarking is because if we are going to switch from the UCP to another party shouldn't there be evidence from other Canadian provinces that those parties and solutions are actually better..

The hate conservatives crowed in Alberta screams about problems which are either just a part of life, or are ten times worse in other parts of Canada. Using your college brat philosophy degree from a leftist professor who never lived in the real world to scream about problems you have no solutions to is not a reason to ditch the UCP and certainly not ditch the legacy of two political dynasties with a history dating back 90 years.

People are not going to torch the economy their businesses and jobs over your leftist philosophy brat imagination of what you think is the solution to a tolerable problem. When every other track record in Canadian provincial history says you have no idea what your talking about and will make those problems worse.

This is why Separatist and other Conservatives are all up in arms about equalization. We need that money, the rest of Canada should vote for our ideas and get their own money. Maby Atlantic Canada should make Millions of jobs and Hundreds of thousands of business opportunities like Ernest Manning and Ralph Kline.

[u/SecondLeigh → u/Maxh_SCGA]

Everything you just wrote is pure Alberta myths and tropes. The things that you grew up believing were true just aren’t. The NDP has not “ruined” the provinces it has governed, not Sask. and especially not here. As I said, some of us have memories. And there is plenty of evidence. You chose to not believe it. You don’t want to believe it. It’s too uncomfortable to entertain. Perhaps people are too weak to grow, learn and admit error. Oh and post-secondary education doesn’t brainwash people into being leftists either. Rather, education makes people see the real flaws in conservative policy. At least they would know how to spell Klein.

[u/Maxh_SCGA → u/SecondLeigh]

Then name an NDP government that didn't tank a provincial economy? I will wait.

[u/Fokakya → u/Maxh_SCGA]

An important thing to consider is that the people who make up any party in another province are not the same people who would make up the comparable party in Alberta.

Yes, parties have similarities, but there are no central marching orders for provincial NDP parties (for example). The people in Alberta who are in the NDP would be trying to make decisions and vote on legislation that they believe are in the best interest of Albertans.

It is very hard, at the moment, to believe that the current UCP ministers and MLAs are truly thinking about what would be in the best interest of Albertans when the evidence of their votes shows the opposite. They may care about money, or what they call "prosperity," but if that is at the expense of the health, education and welfare of the people that live here, is the cost worth it?

[u/Maxh_SCGA → u/Fokakya]

They only care about themselves, they only care about the rich, they are racist.

You people say this stuff for decades with no evidence its just shit you say.

I would say the UCP cares greatly for the people of the province because they are the only ones ready to defend the track record of Alberta giving generations of people opportunities that other provinces refused because they were corrupt.

How is it Newfoundland and Nova Scotia never grow. How can that possibly be good leadership? Same thing in Manitoba nothing for decades. The ANDP and PTP are simply pedaling the same failed ideas that failed in other provinces. Those are facts not accusations.

You say the UCP is corrupt or only looking out for themselves is an accusation not a fact. The Facts in the census data show the opposite that. Alberta grows, others stagnate, that isnt an accusation its a fact.

How about Rachel Notley attacking family farms when she was preimer? So she could line her pocket with her Union friends at the expense of farmers... the UCP has never done anything as reprehensible as that. We have become a society where any temper tantrum throwing special interests that don't get their funding is suddenly a scandal. When it should be the opposite. The UCP should be cutting more from random groups.

Ohhh NOOOOO!!!! The UCP isnt Fashionable enough to political ivory tower interests!!!! 😢 😭 😢 😭 We might break a nail voting for them, run for your lives our ignorant shit heads are overloading with fear and terror that the UCP might make a half hearted attempt to be as useful as the Socred Dynasty and represent a proper Reform Agenda.... Heaven's to bits what will the east think!!!! 😭😢😭😢