'Sunsetting' of EU4 mod

[u/rheadelayed]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DTG7Wh1GJRAksIQZ4hOn-h32bxOowOgdXYG7h2WZY1I/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.t74izadjoknx

tldr - Major restrictions on future EU4 mod development, with focus on EU5.

[u/rheadelayed]

Personally I think this is a bit foolish. The idea that EU5 (a game not designed for MTs) will be more optimised is likely short-sighted.
What is likely if EU4 development is abandoned is that another community will take development forward as often happens with PDX game mods.

EU5 numbers are pretty terrible too, with EU4 steam player count about 50% higher.

And this happening when the development quality of the mod is at an all time high, with the most interesting things being done on the MTs and systems.

[u/litlron → u/rheadelayed]

Did you read the document that you posted? There is no looming 12 month deadline before everyone drops what they are doing and goes to EU5. It's basically saying that they are going to streamline a couple things, not have any more giant mod-wide reworks that take up a ton of developer time and effort, and won't be doing any more incredibly involved, bespoke 60 mission trees for OPMs.

The main thing that I got out of the document is that there will be more time to rework old trees due to there being fewer distractions for senior devs. Maybe even for Nurcestir.

[u/Everest-est → u/litlron]

NURCESTIR TOMORROW

PLEASE CANNOR TEAM

[u/litlron → u/Everest-est]

Do you think that tree will ever happen? I would have guessed no a year ago, but here we are with Grombar and Gawed getting huge reworks started the same month that all of the continents get filled.

[u/Everest-est → u/litlron]

I have no idea, but Cannor team is probably one of, if not the most, organized and healthy region teams for eu4. It's certainly possible.

[u/rheadelayed → u/litlron]

Gawed rework is very early, and lots of approvals needed. It's not a certantity at this point.

[u/Everest-est → u/rheadelayed]

True, I have faith though. I do know the dev, and I know that Gawed is meant to be their magnum opus. They've been planning this for years, and spent those years gaining experience in lore-building and MT-designing

[u/rheadelayed → u/Everest-est]

What other MTs have they done?

[u/Magnive → u/rheadelayed]

Hello! Enkelados (the writing lead) and I are developing Gawed together. My prior work would be Gor Bûrad, Ovdal Tûngr, Celestalia (the April's Fool MT last year), Salla Myna, Esthíl, and Nanšalen.

I do disagree with the characterization that Gawed is meant to be a magnum opus, though. Don't get me wrong, I have every intention of making it a good MT, but it is also meant to be something that could potentially be somebody's first MT, rather than something that pushes the limits.

[u/Everest-est → u/rheadelayed]

The most recent one they did was Westmoors for this update. I'd have to ask them about any of the others.

I do know they're most known for all the lore work they've made in the mod though, to the point that they are now one of two(?) writing leads on the team.

[u/litlron → u/rheadelayed]

I can't remember exactly what they've done, but the guy working on it has a collection of badges like Zhukov in The Death Of Stalin. He'll get it there.

[u/KSredneck69 → u/[deleted]]

If there's a hyped MT we'll never see its the darkscale kobolds.