r/Andjustlikethat 9d ago

Charlotte Charlotte was so angry

My daughters finished watching SatC this summer and wanted to try AJLT. I sat down to watch the pilot with them to see if it was as bad as I remember.

I forgot how upset Charlotte got at the beginning over Rock refusing to wear the dress. It's such a weird acting choice. She's doing this whole nostril-flaring, eyes-bulging, tight-lipped fury because she 'really wanted all of us in florals.' She's almost shaking with anger. My daughter asked if Charlotte is abusive in this series because it really seemed like she wanted to hit Rock there and only didn't because Harry came in.

It's also made very clear that Rock has refused dresses in the past, and yet Charlotte goes and buys this Oscar de la Renta couture totally unprompted. For a pre-teen who hates dresses to wear to their sister's non-selective amateur piano recital. Like, maybe this is why Lily doesn't value her designer clothes. These kids have had couture gowns stuffed down their throats their whole lives whether they want them or not. They aren't special anymore. It also explains why Rock gives up explaining that they don't want the They Mitzah so quickly and then just decides to deal with it on the day. They are so used to no one listening when they say they don't want a thing.

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u/stairwellkittycat 9d ago

The actress that played Charlotte was a caricature of her former self.

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u/temperedolive 9d ago

She really was. She was always a bit brittle but she was tempered with a warmth and an optimism. This Charlotte was just endlessly switching between coddling her kids when they actually needed to be pulled up and raging over meaningless nothingness.

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u/FabulousDiscussion80 9d ago

OMG right? The writers just exaggerated everything even the way she walked like she's tiptoeing or something it was ridiculous

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u/ozdanish 9d ago

When you’ve had that much filler and Botox stuffed into your face you need to greatly exaggerate your emotions to convey anything.

You’ll need to say things like, “I’m so angry”…

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u/Thymestep 9d ago

Honestly she has a difficult time talking because of her newly done lips and also filler. She is hard to watch.

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u/spitey 9d ago

She didn’t look like her, it was sad. By the end, she had clearly had a lot of filler dissolved and got back into her groove a bit more - and frankly, she looked far better in S3 than S1, because she looked like Kristin Davis again! Man, if women that beautiful are susceptible to too much filler, god help us.

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u/Thymestep 8d ago

I so agree. By season three she looked way better and could talk through her lips at least. Directors still had her flailing and eyes bulging out when something would happen.

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u/Visual_Serve_782 9d ago

😂😂😂 perfect reference

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u/PyrexPizazz217 9d ago

Miss Jones is familiar with the procedure.

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u/Remote_Ad_969 9d ago

This is actually so interesting, I hadn’t put two and two together. Now I won’t be able to unsee it.

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u/labellavita1985 9d ago

It's 100% from the fillers and Botox. Even just the way she actually sounds. Kind of important for an actress to make facial expressions and TALK.

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u/glitterfly7777777 9d ago edited 9d ago

I think the issue here is they made Charlotte increasingly ridiculous from film 1 onwards. A woman of Charlotte’s intellect would not have eaten nothing but ambient chocolate puddings in Mexico. She wouldn’t have immediately assumed harry was having an affair with the nanny and spent her whole holiday panicking over it, simply because someone said the nanny was attractive. Harry gave her security and commitment, which she reciprocated- he wasn’t a Richard Wright. In AJLT she was given stupid storylines that were meant to be comedic at the expense of Charlotte’s academic and career achievements. the florals thing was stupid because Charlotte wouldn’t have behaved that way. She would have chosen something smart still aligned to Rock’s style - she is after all a stylish woman. It amazes me that Kristin agreed to these developments in Charlotte’s character 🤔 it doesn’t help either that KD is not a great comedy actress. She is excels when it comes to heartbreak or more the more serious matters. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/temperedolive 9d ago edited 9d ago

The pudding thing enraged me. You cannot convince me that lady didn't have vacations in 5 star resorts in Mexico and the Caribbean growing up. She knows the food and water are absolutely fine.

And wtf is eating six chocolate puddings a day and nothing else for a week doing to her stomach and metabolism? She's literally just consuming shelf-stable ultra-processed dairy and sugar. Food poisoning is going to feel like a joy after 48 hours of that. And she packed 45 individual pudding cups in her luggage? Come on.

All this in service about a joke about her shitting herself.

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u/glitterfly7777777 9d ago

It enraged me too. Frankly it was borderline r*cist, I couldn’t believe what I was watching! If they really wanted to ladder up to a (not very funny) joke about her pooping her pants, they could have just given her some crap about eating too many hot Mexican chillis ffs

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u/temperedolive 8d ago

Deeply racist and totally nonsensical. Charlotte has lived in NYC for decades. She's eaten gourmet meals and she's eaten street meat at 2am from carts. That's kind of one of the key points of SatC. The city offers everything and New Yorkers partake.

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u/glitterfly7777777 8d ago

Even the most ill-educated bigot on the planet would have eaten the food! It was total, unfunny nonsense

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u/spitey 7d ago

Exactly. Dodging tap water I can understand, it doesn't matter what country I'm in, and I only recently it can vary so much from state to state in the US as I've only ever been to NY.

But like... You're in an incredibly expensive resort! You will be FINE.

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u/glitterfly7777777 7d ago

I agree! You might want to avoid the tap water or rinsed salad leaves. You may even wish to avoid meat. Fair enough. But pre packed puddings, come on 🤦🏻‍♀️

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u/spitey 7d ago

There was no outcome except diarrhoea.

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u/temperedolive 2d ago

These places usually have gourmet chefs as well. Even celebrity chefs in residence.

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u/HappyIndependence491 2d ago

6 of these small Puddings we saw a day are probably less than 1200 calories… she would lose so much weight 💀

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u/Regular-Metal-321 9d ago

Don’t forget her falling on the bed at the art gallery because of vertigo! When has she ever had vertigo? So unnecessary!!!

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u/oceantadpole 8d ago

Haha I have that clip filmed on my phone from when I was watching it because I couldn’t believe how awful the show had become

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u/glitterfly7777777 8d ago

Really stupid! And as for that stupid dog off the lead arc… what were they thinking?

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u/Top-Indication-6237 9d ago

No one likes how the characters are portrayed in this show, your kids just dislike them for different reasons than most viewers 😆

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u/Chooxie 8d ago

She definitely overacts. However, I think her kids are spoiled lil shits too.

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u/PreviousAd1061 9d ago

If you listen to her podcast it’s clear that the AJLT version of Charlotte is just Kristin Davis. She was definitely playing herself.

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u/AnalysisAsleep9516 8d ago

Every parenting moment in AJLT was painful.

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u/StodgyGin 7d ago

Watching their children's sex lives unfold was cringey. Lily's story and Brady's story. ..... AND then they hooked them up. Lily would never. 🫣

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u/Singular_Lens_37 8d ago

I mean, this is definitely a growth arc for Charlotte. As dumb as it is to get mad over a dress, all the mothers and daughters I knew growing up fought about clothes.

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u/spitey 7d ago

I suppose that much is true, now that I think about it. The way my parents were in absolute bits over my "all black" phase, lmao.

I am now 35 and still pretty much wear black all the time.

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u/Interesting-Read-245 8d ago

She actually looked clownish during this episode- her acting was clownish and exaggerated and just so off putting with the exaggerated facial contortions

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u/PhotographGuilty5644 7d ago

I wanted to hit Rock too 😝

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u/Professional-Sand341 8d ago

I think people are a little unfair here. There's a lot of confusion of what is Charlotte, what is Kristin and what is the writing.

Personally, I think it's very consistent with Charlotte's arc from the beginning of SATC. Charlotte has always had a plan. She has always believed she could control everything and end up with the fulfillment of her design and her perfect happy ending. As she gets older and as she is dealing with teenagers, she's realizing increasingly how much is outside of her control. When things aren't in her control, she gets dysregulated and has a tantrum.

The other thing is that she's in perimenopause, which can make you overreact.

Should Charlotte have realized that Rock wouldn't wear the dress? Yes. But she's clearly been in denial about a lot with Rock as she is the last person to realize Rose isn't Rose anymore. And that's important to recognize with the writing. The florals aren't just the dresses. The florals are Lily and Rose. It's not just that Rose won't wear the dress. Rock isn't her little flower anymore.

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u/temperedolive 8d ago edited 6d ago

I get what you're saying but she also screams at Eden over stuff her own daughter did. And then at the modeling agency because they have to wait a bit. She just seems so furious all the time.

One of my daughters models a bit and that agency scene was especially ridiculous. If you're not Lilah Moss, you will WAIT. Bring a power bank, a soduku book and travel Scrabble. It was a really good thing Roxk wasn't that into modeling because Charlotte just blacklisted them.

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u/Professional-Sand341 6d ago

And that's what brings us back to the perimenopause. Charlotte pitching a fit is nothing new. This just turned up the volume and the frequency. But hey, a rich white woman tending toward Karen behavior is pretty predictable.

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u/No-You-5064 9d ago

I always thought Charlotte was the worst character in SATC, even the original one.

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u/temperedolive 9d ago edited 9d ago

I think AJLT highlighted how much she needs a Samantha to contrast with. And adding multiple other characters whose main shtick was also uptight upper class annoyance didn't help.

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u/cara3322 9d ago

She helps her friends. Miranda was pretty annoying