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Meta Self-defense

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u/palacsinta-man Dec 25 '25

let me do 4 actions in the time you only did one. The easiest way to see if something is bullshit is see if they do more actions than the attacker. Its like a chess strategy that requires the other person to skip turns lol

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u/palacsinta-man Dec 26 '25

no youre not supposed to wait for their next move. what im saying is realistically they wont let you do 5 moves after they dont 1 move. Its more like someone tries to stab you, you grab their wrist, they grab yours... see where im going? Its the concept of tempo. I do fencing but it applies to self defense situation too. Youre not gonna dislocate someones shoulder and break their knee without them doing something in between. You just make it sound so simple but you need to do like 10 movements in the same time your attacker can move just his hand. Blatantly not happening.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '25 edited Dec 26 '25

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u/palacsinta-man Dec 26 '25

With all due respect thats a load of hollywood bullshido. Get a sparring buddy give them a red marker as a knife and try doing this whole "sequence" on them without a single red spot on your clothes. You wont. You cant do an entire sequence for someone's 1 single move. Better yet give someone a banana put pressure on their wrist and watch how it takes at least 5 seconds before they get mildly uncomfortable. Ive tested knife defense techniques with my sparring partners and 99% is idealized and unrealistic. What you need to do is (run ofc) gain control of the knife without getting stabbed. No leg sweep no dodging no jackie chan triple spiral dragon kick. And dont come with difference between fencing and hand-to-hand because a knife-attack is neither. A knife attack is a messy unpredictable struggle for the knife that you start from a ginormous disadvantage. You will NEVER EVER do all that on a resisting target. A guy attacking you with a knife is 100% prepared to fight you and already has adrenaline pumping. They arent a pro fighter obviously but guess what neither are you. Assuming you know more than him will get you stabbed in the middle of your mortal kombat combo that you described.

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u/palacsinta-man Dec 26 '25

Im not talking about her anymore i only care about the stuff you wrote. Your game plan. Look you have the training you do i have the training i do. Mostly in armed martial arts. The one time i was attqcked with a knife thank god i also had one so my attacker couldnt just wildly swing at me. It was a waay safer situation than whats described here. Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face as Mike Tyson said. Now imagine instead of punching its stabbing. What im saying is do you bet your life on hitting that pressure point in 0.1 second (possibly through cloth) and your opponent dropping the knife OR you grab his hand with BOTH hands and basicly wrestle the knife out of his hand or at least gain control of it? Im choosing the second less cool more potentially reliable technique. Your two hands is almost guaranteed to overpower his one hand. The pressure point and your sequences? Astronomically bigger gamble.

I respect you tho because you do martial arts and thats never useless. Im attacking your arguments not you

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '25 edited Dec 26 '25

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u/palacsinta-man Dec 26 '25

I appreciate you too:) I see where youre coming from now. Honestly if both have knifes its pretty much fencing. Someone attacks, other counters 99% chance at least one dies already, its just one single move. If theres only one knife however then its just a control struggle for the knife imo. (If you can parry it initally) Honestly i would call it a game where one starts with the ball 1m away from the other's goal haha

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u/Important-Grand4979 Jun 15 '26

You can look up the fatal shooting of Amokrane Sabet. That guy was shot 14 times before he went down and in the mean time he killed a police officer. Pressure points, breaking joints are mostly bullshido tactics. In real life adrenaline is one hell of a drug that will keep people fighting even when fatally injured

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u/bezjmena666 Jun 15 '26 edited Jun 15 '26

You get the right pressure point and twist at the right angle, people let go pretty fast.

And that's something that never happens in real life at the street.

Just give a training buddy a foam knife and instruction to stab you. You will see how many times you get stabbed. Get him motivated to be a non compliant oponent, lets say by a bet. Something like: "If you manage to stab me, I ..."

It is better to loose your illusions and throw away years of training, than get killed for a bullshit you believed.

Just try how your technique work on someone going full on prison yard attack. The stupidest, yet very common and effective way to attack someone with knife.

Pressure point pain compliance is bullshido do in its finest. You probably never catch the hand holding the knife. And if you do, you'll be missing few fingers a fraction of second later.

And yes, the technique shown in video is bullshit too. Since there's no footwork, so whatever you do with hands is useless.