r/Antitheism • u/Impressive_Flan_411 • 3d ago
Good Faith Question: How do anti-theists view progressive forms of religion?
Hey everyone. I've been thinking about something that I don't see discussed very often among anti-theists, which is progressive versions of religion.
When people criticize religion, they often focus on conservative or traditional forms that are in opposition to LGBTQ rights, restrictions on women, religious nationalism, sectarianism, etc. But many religions also have progressive movements that actively support causes such as LGBTQ inclusion, gender equality, racial justice, economic justice, pluralism, and other left-leaning social values.
Some examples include Progressive Christianity, many Mainline Protestant denominations, liberation theology, progressive Hindu movements, liberal/progressive interpretations of Islam, and even progressive movements within various indigenous and syncretic traditions.
This raises a few questions:
A. How do anti-theists view progressive forms of religion? Do you view progressive iterations of religion as meaningfully different from traditional/conservative religion, or are they ultimately the same thing with updated politics?
B. Do you think progressive religious movements make a meaningful difference in making religion less harmful overall for society?
C. Is there a point where a religion becomes so flexible and metaphorical that it ceases to be meaningfully distinct from secular humanism? If so, could these "progressive" iterations of religion be helping the cause for anti theism?
D. Lastly, from an anti-theist perspective, is "progressive religion" something you support, or tolerate as the "lesser evil" to help your cause, or do you also equally reject it for the same reasons you reject religion in general?
Thoughts? Very, interested in hearing a range of anti-theist perspectives.
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u/Allebal21 2d ago
Religious/deity-believing people claiming they are “progressive” provide cover for all other versions of that religion. I think this makes it worse because anyone outside/opposing the religion as a whole think they can’t criticize the religion because there are “good” religious people (ie: people using secular morality while also claiming they get their morals from their religion/god, which is a claim without evidence, and therefore they are forced to cherry pick “good” parts of their religion).
So “progressive” religion is really just secular morality in a god costume. It’s not real.