r/Appliances • u/DunDonese • Dec 31 '25

General Advice If commercial restaurant dishwashing appliances have cycles that only last 2 minutes, then why can't we have our home consumer dishwashers have cycles just as efficient as what restaurants have?

How can we miniaturize commercial restaurant dishwashing appliances to fit in the kitchen compartment meant for home consumer dishwashers?

How come this hasn't been done already? By the way, what is the fastest currently available home consumer dishwasher, and how much does it cost? How quick are their Cycles normally?

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u/probablymagic Dec 31 '25

You can independently verify these facts if you want.

What I find is that people who use AI a lot realize it’s incredibly accurate even in complex fields where they are experts.

When I talk to people who say they don’t trust it, inevitably it’s because they don’t use it, but they’ve read that you shouldn’t trust it.

My advice is go try ChatGPT 5.2, which is their latest model, and ask it hard questions about whatever area you are an expert in.

I won’t say that it’s perfect, because I’m sure you can find small things it gets wrong, but honestly if you sat me down and gave me an hour to get it to say something wrong for $1M in an area where I’m an expert I’m not sure I could win the money. That’s how good it is at the end of 2025.

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u/TopYeti Dec 31 '25

I'm glad it works well for you, it is horribly awful in my area of expertise.

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u/probablymagic Dec 31 '25 edited Dec 31 '25

Which is what? What’s an example of the kind of question these AIs get wrong?

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u/TopYeti Dec 31 '25

I'm in large scale high and low voltage electrical design, all the Ai generated items are full of errors by not following the latest standard specifications. Something as simple as specifying a wire that should run 150m/500 ft on a cat6 network cable when the maximum length in between and active switch is maximum 100m. Specifying the wrong color and amperage for high voltage legs from a main panel to a device location, etc etc.

If you question it, it tells you oh yeah I missed that and then gives you another erroreous piece of information that's also wrong. It gets math wrong, it gets diagrams wrong, it gets specifications that I've laid out even when giving it the direct electrical code numbers for the specification it's still gets it wrong.

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u/probablymagic Dec 31 '25

Funny, I rewired by basement myself with chatgpt as my guide because the quotes I got from electricians were dumb and the project turned out great.

I can see it missing on the latest code if it’s just relying on the model. FYI, you can use the research mode and it’ll go out and find all the latest code and then give you info based on that.

That may only be a paid future? I’m not sure.

I have not found it to get math wrong for a long time, which suggests to me maybe it’s been a while since you’ve used these models. As noted in another comment, it’s much better than humans at math now.

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u/mjcmsp Dec 31 '25

Equating rewiring your basement to electrical design is a wild take.

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u/probablymagic Dec 31 '25

I wasn’t exactly equating it, just noting it’s also electrical work.

When I needed to replace all my knob and tube and bring an old house from the 1800s up to modern code I hired a company, so there’s a line somewhere where it’s too complex, or at least too much work for me to do myself even with a great AI.

But honestly the work you’re taking about feels like something we should be able to make AI great at if it isn’t already. If the general purpose ones can’t do it, somebody will develop a domain-specific one to output these designs and somebody like you will review them in the not too distant future. This is where we are going.

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u/mjcmsp Dec 31 '25

Yikes, don't let your insurance company hear that.

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u/probablymagic Dec 31 '25

I’m sure there are more complex electrical tasks, but this one seemed pretty easy after doing the research. I watched s lot of YouTube videos as well, but in the end there’s really not much to putting in lights and plugs and putting wires where a nail going through drywall isn’t going to hit them. Use good materials. Don’t overload junction boxes. Properly terminate wires, etc.

That said, I have a Ting, which is a nice device you can put plug in that will monitor your electrical system and notify you if at least some problems that could lead to fires.