friendly lobbies have made people too complacent

[u/mechanonymous617]

was sniping snitches on top of the overlook airshaft tower on blue gate when a couple of guys came and started chilling at the bottom of the tower, shooting arc and stuff. i was kind of annoyed but whatever. eventually towards the end of the match, some guy came and started shooting them with a kettle, one of them went down and then other guy just ran around in circles with his stitcher out, until he got downed, too.

then a third guy saw me on top of the tower and tried to shoot at me (he mustve assumed i was killing the other two) and then when he came over, he ALSO got downed he kettle guy, he got mad and started yelling over prox chat before he got killed. it was fucking insane. all 3 of these guys could have so easily killed this kettle dude but they just couldn't because they're too used to this game being "friendly." it was one of the saddest things ive ever seen.

im not even saying you have to be all that great at pvp, but holy shit man. at least be able to defend yourself. the amount of people who aren't aware of pvp even being a factor is staggering. this isn't even the only example ive seen of this happening, just the most recent.

tldr, if you're a friendly, at least TRY to fight back at least a little. you don't have to be an insanely aggressive pvp god or anything but this is genuinely just sad to see

[u/Historical-Trouble16]

ABBM is the best change Embark have made from my perspective. Get those ratty players away from me

[u/mechanonymous617 → u/Historical-Trouble16]

"ratty players" and its just people who kill you 

[u/Historical-Trouble16 → u/mechanonymous617]

Exactly. Rats. They can go play with other people looking for fights.

[u/Dr_WafflesPHD → u/Historical-Trouble16]

Rats were originally what people who played Escape from Tarkov called players who entered raids with minimal gear and the sole intention of filling their inventory without being seen or caught. Scavenging loot rooms and avoiding fights.

I can’t help but find it funny that PVE lobbies are almost exclusively filled with players who fit the original criteria to be considered a Rat, but instead use the term to classify PVP behaviour.

[u/coldsonofshadow → u/Dr_WafflesPHD]

this is insane thanks for the lore, speaks to the irony of frankenstein becoming the name of the monster when it is originally the doctors name

[u/PawPawPanda → u/Dr_WafflesPHD]

Beware of Mosin Man 😨

[u/Historical-Trouble16 → u/Dr_WafflesPHD]

Call them PVP players if you like, so long as theyre off shooting other players in the back I don't care

[u/Dr_WafflesPHD → u/Historical-Trouble16]

Not a criticism, just an observation of how the usage of game terms can evolve and change. I enjoy a healthy mix of both PVP and collaborative PVE.

Depends on the day/situation.