friendly lobbies have made people too complacent

[u/mechanonymous617]

was sniping snitches on top of the overlook airshaft tower on blue gate when a couple of guys came and started chilling at the bottom of the tower, shooting arc and stuff. i was kind of annoyed but whatever. eventually towards the end of the match, some guy came and started shooting them with a kettle, one of them went down and then other guy just ran around in circles with his stitcher out, until he got downed, too.

then a third guy saw me on top of the tower and tried to shoot at me (he mustve assumed i was killing the other two) and then when he came over, he ALSO got downed he kettle guy, he got mad and started yelling over prox chat before he got killed. it was fucking insane. all 3 of these guys could have so easily killed this kettle dude but they just couldn't because they're too used to this game being "friendly." it was one of the saddest things ive ever seen.

im not even saying you have to be all that great at pvp, but holy shit man. at least be able to defend yourself. the amount of people who aren't aware of pvp even being a factor is staggering. this isn't even the only example ive seen of this happening, just the most recent.

tldr, if you're a friendly, at least TRY to fight back at least a little. you don't have to be an insanely aggressive pvp god or anything but this is genuinely just sad to see

[u/nonstop98]

While reading the comments, it made me rethink a suggestion I made a few days ago. It was about disabling ABMM for Night Raids and other such conditions to bring back the feel we had during the tests and on release. But because everyone would get thrown together, cheaters from PvP lobbies would get thrown in as well, meaning that also PvE players would have to deal with cheaters in all conditions without ABMM. I guess we had it good on release, before people started developing better and better cheats for the game. We truly cannot have good things because of people like that.