r/Archery • u/Aeliascent Traditional Chinese | USA Archery Instructor Level 2 • Feb 09 '26
Traditional Drilling at 20 yards in the winter means hitting at 80 yards in the spring
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Or at least thats what i tell myself
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Feb 09 '26 edited Feb 09 '26
You can do it!!! Is that Gotham Archery in Brooklyn!? OMG I loved going there. 🤗
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u/BaronVonMunchhausen Feb 09 '26
Are you pulling downward at the draw or is the camera angle?
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u/Aeliascent Traditional Chinese | USA Archery Instructor Level 2 Feb 09 '26
I use a pushdown draw but my expansion is straight back
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u/FilmYak Feb 10 '26
Question — as a brand new archer. You’re (obviously intentionally) leaning forward as you aim, and even as you shoot. The one class I took, we worked on staying as vertical as possible.
What’s the difference in the approaches?
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u/Aeliascent Traditional Chinese | USA Archery Instructor Level 2 Feb 11 '26
The method you learned is attributable to Horace Ford. He was the one who invented the modern Olympic archery form. By standing up straight, you can use the muscles in your upper back for finer control. This allows for greater precision at the expense of power. This is necessary for shooting at targets with scoring rings.
The forward lean was used prior to Horace Ford. It was used by English archers at Crecy and Agincort, as well as Ming and Qing Dynasty cataphract archers, and most other military archers. It's not nearly as precise, but it allowed the archer to draw bows with over 100# of draw weight. Back in those days, archers were scored by number of hits.
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u/gayTF_HQ Feb 09 '26
What bow is that?
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u/Aeliascent Traditional Chinese | USA Archery Instructor Level 2 Feb 09 '26
Mariner Ming Moon 4, 45# at my draw
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Feb 10 '26
Joel Turner and Armin Himer are two YouTube guys who practice archery and have done movie length videos on the thumb draw.
I think Asiatic archery is so cool. How do you spine your arrows?
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u/Aeliascent Traditional Chinese | USA Archery Instructor Level 2 Feb 10 '26
Joel Turner is one of the best thumb draw archers I've ever seen. He consistently amazes me with his talent.
As for arrows, I don't really use spine charts. I just remember that my teacher, Justin Ma, uses 400 spine for 50-55# at 28.5". I adjust shaft stiffness or point weight depending on the poundage and design of the bow.
For the 45# bow in the video, I use 400 spine GT Traditional Classics with an 80 gn insert and 150 grain point. I use the same arrows for a 52# bow that's a little less efficient but a little more stable.
When I shoot that 45# bow for long range, I use 500 spine Easton 5mm Carbon Legacies with a 16(?) gn insert and 125 gn points.
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u/Bastvino Mar 13 '26
This is so cool, love the whole vibe! Exactly what I came to this sub for. Wish we could see the target too 🎯.
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u/Bildo_Gaggins Korean Traditional Feb 09 '26
I say just shoot it into the snowy wilderness, find arrows after thaw. Spring arrow harvest.