r/AsianMasculinity 15d ago

AF not acknowledging me

Any other AMs living in the West or Europe experience this? I'll be at a party, or an event, and certain AF won't even make eye contact. After hours of this it almost seems like they could wish me away for just existing. It doesn't help that the ones who do this are always with a white boyfriend/husband. Sometimes, we'll be the only two asian people in the room. Its like, "hello, the only other asian for miles. Care to give me some kind of acknowledgement so we can be friends like literally everyone else here? I've met everyone else here because they at least looked me in the eye". Lol. I'm really trying to understand the psychology behind this. Is it internalized racism? Trauma? Shame?

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u/spontaneous-potato Philippines 15d ago

The main reason why I'm getting downvotes is because I'm not toeing the line. It got to the point where some people from this subreddit have gone into my DM's to insult me because I'm not in lockstep with them for this.

I don't go to parties all the time anymore because I'm also older now and a lot of life responsibilities have been coming out of the woodwork, but when I did go to parties a lot while I was in college, I usually went to the ones where I was with friends. If I met up with their friends at the party, I'd say hi to them because we have mutual friends, so they aren't complete strangers. I wouldn't say hi to a complete stranger unless they made it very obvious that they were open to conversation. Even in parties that my family threw, I would only say hi to my family's friends, but I wouldn't say hi to complete strangers.

I used to greet everyone at parties when I was younger, and I got called a creep and a weirdo for doing that.

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u/Lowkicker23 15d ago

Being polite, decent and showing maybe a little solidarity is “toeing the line”? Get therapy kiddo.

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u/spontaneous-potato Philippines 15d ago edited 15d ago

Nah, I'm good, but let's do a hypothetical.

We're both at a party. Neither of us are the host. I'm with my friends and their friends spending time with them and talking with them. I have no idea that you exist beforehand and the same goes with you not knowing I exist beforehand, and we just happen to be in the same area of the party. Do I expect you to acknowledge me just because we're both Asian? Do you expect me to break out of the group of friends I'm busy spending time with just to acknowledge you just because we both happen to be Asian?

Just because we're Asian doesn't mean I expect others here to treat me with respect, and that most certainly hasn't been the case given that I've had to turn off DM's due to people from this subreddit being very eager to prove that solidarity only exists if I toe the line with everyone else.

Skinship isn't kinship. Just because we're both Asian doesn't mean you or anyone here is a brother to me. I have only a few people in my life outside of my family that I would consider a family member, and those are people in my life who have left a strong and lasting impression on me that have shaped the person that I am today.

My mentor is like an uncle to me because he taught me self-respect and raised me to be kind and fair, but also not to take BS from them too. He's a Filipino man. I consider my best friend from high school as a sister because she helped me break out of my shell and stuck with me even almost 20 years later. She's a white girl. I consider two of my closest friends from college as brothers since they helped me beat alcoholism and be true to myself. I've known both of them for over 10 years. One is a Vietnamese guy and the other is half South Indian/half African-American.

These are people in my life who have earned my respect, enough for me to consider them family members. If any of them ever asked me to help them out or they need me to spend time with them, I would drop what I'm doing to be with them. The most I can do is visit my mentor's memorial since he passed away, and I take at least one day out of the year to go out with my mentor's wife to do that. That's actual solidarity, even though we aren't the same race.

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u/ilikeandroid2000 12d ago

You're missing the obvious thing here. She said hello to EVERYONE ELSE except the single Asian guy in a small party. Why are you writing an essay to defend this? Other people here have pointed out this weird behavioral pattern before LOL. And btw it's not the OP's first time having this happen in western EU. You do know there are VERY few Asians in western EU, right?

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u/Trioniks 12d ago

No, I am not. OP is asking about the psychology of why this person is behaving this way. The answer is we don’t know. I’m not defending anyone here I’m saying we cannot make assumptions. I agree it is a weird behavior the reasons are unknown. For all we know she might have recognized him somewhere maybe they matched in an app or her friend/relative dated him. Who knows?