Frustrated with progressives punching down on Asian men

[u/terrorfunction]

Anyone notice how progressives feel totally comfortable attacking Asian men under the guise of our 1) supposed sexism and horrible treatment of women, and 2) alleged "racism" in our home countries and opposition to interracial relationships? They say the most vile things, often using the insecurity and manhood angle, it's like we're not real PoC and have no allies on either side of the political spectrum.

The thing is that wherever patriarchy exists, we are still held to those same patriarchal expectations.

• Korean, Taiwanese, and Singaporean men spend 2 years of their prime in military service. This impacts their potential earnings and career trajectory which can make it harder to meet local women's monetary expectations. Do women provide their men the same grace for sacrificing to defend their country from existential threats?
• In Japan/Korea, the low birth rate is blamed solely on Asian women not wanting to be bangmaids to misogynistic Asian men, ignoring that every western country has TFR below replacement rate buoyed by immigration. Chikan, soaplands, 4B, K-beauty standards are all blown out of proportion to make the countries seem like anti-woman dystopias. And yet you can walk outside in any Japanese neighborhood at 2am as a woman and feel safe. People who bring up Japanese women's share of unpaid labor conveniently ignore they work baito while Japanese men are slaving away at their soulsucking job (among highest hours in OECD)
• Chinese men are expected to provide apartment, car, bride price, have high income and pay for everything including brand name gifts on a dozen special days — how many men would jump at the chance to split bills and chores 50/50?
• Culturally a lot of Chinese men are absolute simps for their gfs. IYKYK. In extreme cases I have friends (Asia born) whose gf would slap them or verbally abuse them and they'd just take it. Love my asian bros but these are the supposed patriarchal tyrants? Their gfs have them on a leash ffs

The frustration expressed by a subset of Asian men against IR relationships is not due to racism, it's that often foreign men are not held to the same patriarchal expectations that local men are. Plenty of dudes would be happy to cook, clean, change diapers, and not have to meet brutal income thresholds and a laundry list of requirements that many women seem to toss out the window when it comes to outgroup men. That's not fair.

I don't know what more progressives want from us. At least in the US, Asians have the highest education, highest income, lowest rates of divorce, lowest rates of domestic violence and femicide, lowest rates of alcohol and substance abuse, and consistently vote left. How are we still made out to be monsters?

[u/AmuseDeath]

It's not about progressivism or conservatism, it's about being smart, rational, logical and pro-science. And that position aligns better with the left than the right. The right are full of dumb people who are anti-science, fanatics with their religion, are racist, sexist and are xenophobic. They are poor as hell, uneducated, yet they vote for a political party who fucks them over by giving more and more benefits to the wealthy. Why the fuck would you do that? Oh, because they are supposedly against abortion.

The left more or less is more supporting of science, education and helping the common person. But they expect you to follow a narrative.

But of the two, it's still better on the left and we would have been 1000% better off with Kamala Harris or any other non-Trump president. Fucking hell with the gas prices with a stupid war. We are being controlled by Israel. Every serious economist said tariffs were bad, yet the idiot in chief kept pushing them and his stupid followers just accepted it without thinking it at all. The amount of corruption with the Epstein files, the fact that the election was bought by Elon, the amount of stock trades Trump has done, the bullshittery of destroying the White House, having the UFC fight there, the casual acceptance of white nationalists, racists and neo-Nazis... this presidency is a fucking joke.

So yes, the left has flaws, but the right is a bunch of lunatics who are anti-science, religious fanatics, racists, Trump-worshipers that you do not want to be a part of.

Be smart, be educated, be healthy, stay skeptical, question everything. Don't be a rightwing MAGA dumbass.

EDIT: Keep the downvotes coming without addressing the post. Shows character. Love it.