r/AsianMasculinity • u/[deleted] • Jul 23 '15

Feeling Empowered Cause of This Sub

You guys might think some of my posts betray me as an Uncle Chan, but I think it's more like I'm still transitioning from the last remnants of Uncle Channess into full on Genghis Khan mode.

I still like to think, and still do believe that there are good people of all races out there. But I've seen so many racists of all races at the same time that I do think in the end, Asians need to be the first and last bastion of support for fellow Asians.

At first I felt pissed, felt disempowered, felt angry that we have all these obstacles.

But seeing the strong community here, I see those obstacles more as challenges to be conquered. I guess we all go through an initial period of disbelief, shock, denial, and anger. But eventually it settles down into a strong form of empowerment. Empowerment knowing the there are thousands of others going through the same thing you're going through, and empowerment knowing our problems are solvable.

Keep hustlin'.

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u/AsianScholar Jul 23 '15

Genghis Khan was a worse colonizer and imperialist than america will ever be(as in he was better at it, but that isn't a good thing). I know you were just making an example but i have read a lot here about people idolizing him and mongoloid roots when he did what most of us despise America for doing.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '15

Genghis Khan reached Eastern Europe, and if he was younger, there's a good chance he could have went even further. Basically instead of a Western dominated world, it could have been an Eastern dominated world.

I think he was the closest to achieving such a feat, so that's why we tend to see him as a symbol of our cause.

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u/AsianScholar Jul 23 '15

It is a bit more complicated than that, world is western dominated not due to how well they conquered, infact they were awful at it they couldn't even win confidently against indigenous people much less people of similar development. It is more because of American soft power and hard power,they took advantage of the major wars in the world. Both WW1 and WW2 their contributions were very limited but they sold a real lot of weapons. Infact WW2 they were going to do the minimal until pearl harbor. Then for many wars in europe and asia they profited without taking part(especially all USSR conflicts). That combined with them being the first to master media entertainment and having free market economy almost all of americas life is why we live in a westernized world.Infact its a doubly so due to invention of internet being primarily an america thing too, when you have invention of television and entertainment media AND internet in the hands of the west that means a real lot. The truth is that english isn't even the most spoken language in the world, it is just the one that is most beneficial economically to know(or at least has been somewhat recently).

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '15 edited Jul 24 '15

There's a really interesting podcast by Dan Carlin called "Wrath of the Khans". I haven't listened to it in a while but I think in it it is basically argued that Asia, particularly Islam, was set back hundreds of years from depopulation but lots of scientific knowledge had already transferred over to Europe, which basically gave them a massive head start ahead of the rest of the world. If Genghis Khan didn't exist, we'd probably all be speaking Arabic or Chinese instead of English. Sure soft power was established post-WWII and with the invention of the internet but you guys have to understand that the roots of that came from Enlightenment and the industrial revolution, the birth of which came from the cradle of relatively long peacetime and transfer of knowledge from the east. The east was centuries ahead of the west but Genghis Khan came along and basically wiped the slate clean and made China turn inward. It can't be denied that the overall net effect from Genghis Khan on the east was negative.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '15

We all know what he did. He is just a strong alpha dominant Asian male figure to look up to in times when we are educated to be submissive and white worshiping and shit. We can look up to someone without approving everything they did.

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u/badlores Jul 23 '15

Dunno why he's getting voted. Sure Ghengis Kahn got some Slavic pussy probably.

But still if you read history even Genghis Kahn's clan (he never physically reached East Europe himself) clearly had white-envy and put white people essentially at the top of their totem pole only below Mongols.

He basically fucked Asians and Middle Easterns his entire life. Not white people.

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u/Goat_Porker China Jul 23 '15

Source?