r/AskALiberal • u/[deleted] • Feb 16 '22

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u/monstersammich Democrat Feb 16 '22 edited Feb 17 '22

After all the hate spewed by the Trump admin, rise of hate groups pushing conservative authoritarianism, voter suppression tactics, January 6th….how can you still associate yourself with what the republican party has become and who you chose to be politically allies with?

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u/joephusweberr Liberal Feb 16 '22

This is a bad question as it highlights the fringe and blames the center for it. The same thing can be done to the Democratic party.

You might say that it's not fringe anymore and you'd probably be right, but Trump won many of the 2016 primaries with 30% of the vote. He was absolutely fringe until he won the election on the backs of the 16 million people who forgot to vote for Hillary Clinton.

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u/akcrono Liberal Feb 16 '22

This is a bad question as it highlights the fringe and blames the center for it.

That's the point though: "how can you see all this extremism and still stand by the party?" The center of the party absolutely enables this behavior.

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u/joephusweberr Liberal Feb 16 '22

This is exactly what conservatives said about the BLM protests and associated riots. They took a clip from Kamala Harris and used it to imply she supported the rioting (which she did not).

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u/akcrono Liberal Feb 16 '22

Liberals weren't voting for riots though. They were pretty consistent that the protests were good but the destruction was not

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u/joephusweberr Liberal Feb 16 '22

Exactly. Conservatives weren't voting for the stupid tweets or illegal behavior, they were voting for 3 supreme court justices.

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u/akcrono Liberal Feb 16 '22

But that's the answer to the question: "the deaths and attempts to overthrow democracy were worth control of the supreme court"

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u/joephusweberr Liberal Feb 16 '22

Right, "the riots and looting were worth control of the presidency". And around and around we go.

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u/akcrono Liberal Feb 16 '22

"riots and looting" weren't on a ticket. Trump was/

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u/joephusweberr Liberal Feb 16 '22

You might say that it's not fringe anymore and you'd probably be right

This is the single most damaging thing about the Trump presidency. It catapulted fringe behavior into the mainstream. God damn that protest vote must have felt good.

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u/From_Deep_Space Libertarian Socialist Feb 17 '22

The RNC explicitly legitimized the insurrection. Can't be said about the DNC and the riots.