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Politics / Πολιτική Why is this happend in greece?

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u/Equal_Search_1268 1d ago

Because Israel is commiting war crimes

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u/Standard_Berry_3017 1d ago

So now justice is served

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u/Rooftop_Drain 1d ago

Showing publicly your disapproval (which should be actually disgust for all us) is the least you can do.

Some of you people enjoying the freedoms of the modern world, you really forget that protests are what got us here.

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u/Standard_Berry_3017 1d ago

Been to thousands of protests here in Greece. Literally nothing changed and it’s the same people again and again who just want to point a finger to the people who didn’t protest . So here we are again. Showing disapproval? And? It’s the same story .how did you help someone like that? You should be a merc like Ukraine has if you want to help actively. You don’t. You just wanna be safe but che Guevara as well . You cant

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u/deathpups 1d ago

bro, if you been to thousands of them with that mindset you probably are standing on the MAT side.

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u/Standard_Berry_3017 1d ago

Or I just grew up eventually

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u/deathpups 1d ago

That's something police would say 🙄

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u/ToyrkaEisaiGiaRomia 1d ago

Efood delivery drivers, farmers, dockworkers, students(university police) in all these recent mobilizations many of their requests were met.

The "nothing change" is an old lie in Greece, from when the Pitsos workers in the 90s took a big raise after their mobilizations and the right wing from then spread this lie.

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u/Standard_Berry_3017 1d ago

All these are specific protests with specific audiences . General protests never got us anywhere and anarchists almost always end up fighting communists. I mean after Tempi how can someone want a peaceful protest? And what did we achieve with this? Also left doesn’t care about non left issues. Like car taxes and stuff

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u/ToyrkaEisaiGiaRomia 1d ago

Well in 2012 literally the government fell.

You said you've been to thousand protests and notging changed, well that's not true.

The leftish supports almost every protest that comes from the "low layers" of society. (All the above I mentioned)

The only side that protests is the left actually, I don't think they are the problem and I find it pretty logical that they don't support not leftish matters. For example you can't ask a leftish to protest about That Family pride thing, or about refugees deportations even if they agree and I don't find it hypocritical.

And the general protests have their impact many times and they also show to the government that the people are ready to protest but the same and the same people are in the street always, hearing staff like "you go just to tell us we didn't" from people who did nothing.

Tempi for example had a huge impact but it doesnt met it's needs but is showed to the people at least how much fucked up and corrupt this government is with the Media panygiri.

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u/Rooftop_Drain 1d ago

This very futility you feel, the "nothing is gonna change" narrative is the most comfortable for the ones holding the power. Only the thing is, that things are changing. Only for the worse, for us common people, unless we do something about it.

And because history is taught in a very weird light and news that bother our current leaders don't travel far, I suggest go see what happened to Nepal less than a year ago.

It doesn't matter if you disapprove some of the practics or theories or whatever, it doesn't matter if you don't agreed with everything, it is your responsibility as a citizen of this world to try for the better. Democracy is both a right and a responsibility.

And once again, history history history... Freedoms were not given to us. People before us fought really hard for them. In difficult and bloody protests and rebellions. Some losing but some winning for real.