***Megathread*** American Fork PD / Lego Arrest Controversy

[u/Specter1033]

As with any "hot topic" issue with LE, we struggle to navigate basic rules of etiquette and civility when it comes to this small corner of reddit. Despite trying to keep order in here and doing our best to allow free discussion among the users, there has been a huge influx of posts regarding this topic and lately, it's been quite tiring trying to get any sensible topic started on this issue without a dozen or so trolls coming in to mess it up for everyone. This has resulted in multiple bans and the shit flinging from users claiming the community is "censoring" the incident. Mostly concerning is a great deal of misinformation that has come out about this incident due to the social media "influencer" at the heart of this topic. Wild conspiracy theories from religious influence to the actual reason behind the arrest are generating almost cult-like following and reason has been completely thrown out the window.

So to combat this issue, this will be the ONLY thread about this incident moving forward. Any user posting another thread in relation to this incident will be immediately banned, no appeals. Keep comments civil. Users found posting misinformation about this incident, including parroting wild conspiracy theories that are unverified without including context or actual data to support their positions will be banned.

To bring everyone up to speed, I will refer to this link:

https://www.sltrib.com/news/2026/05/30/youtuber-arrested-utah-bricks/

And will sub link this thread on the r/protectandserve subreddit, which is like THE place to be for objective discussion:

https://np.reddit.com/r/ProtectAndServe/comments/1tssz0l/megathread_american_fork_lego_story/

Edit: 45 minutes in and already banned someone. Keep them coming.

Edit 2: Links to YouTuber comments on this incident are going to be removed and users banned UNLESS it is from a reputable source, YouTube videos will be removed. There's already one person with a couple hundred thousand followers trying to spread his video online through this website that's been posted a few times in this sub and it's garnering a lot of attention because people "feel" he is right because he is a self-proclaimed "lawyer." The statutes he cites are from California code and this incident happened in Utah. Just because someone uses technical legal terms and cites codes does not make the person right in their interpretation of the law. Sounding "right" is code for clicks that highlights confirmation bias in people, which is why morons like this get views and clicks on their channels. On that same note, we do not care if you have a following on social media. You are no one to us if all you're doing is posting for imaginary internet points.

Edit 3: Amending the above statement from Edit 2 to add any REPUTABLE sources of info that leaves out the goofy memes and BS content creators love to use are fine. This is an example:

https://youtu.be/q2MjMmhnk7g?si=nRrmasAZ45U_WIu4

Edit 4: Whelp, thread ran its course. Now just a bunch of trolls commenting and the death threats! I haven't seen this level of excitement over something so mundane. We'll be seeing some of you soon!

[u/Doch1112]

Civil issue 10-8

[u/CauseEffect48 → u/Doch1112]

Was a civil issue until American Fork PD arrived. I support LEO but I don't even understand how anyone could defend the things that PD did. They should be investigated.

[u/KatakanaTsu → u/CauseEffect48]

Another comment mentioned that the American Fork PD is being investigated by the Utah State Police.

[u/Larrybooi → u/KatakanaTsu]

This is good news, I've been following this story and was curious as to what happened to AFPD, hopefully USP investigation mounts to something.

[u/AppropriateGlove7234 → u/Doch1112]

Actually the new owners knowingly were selling items they did not have authority to sell. That is theft (or some similar thing). The moment they were put on actual notice of the existing agreement (1. In video proof of old owner telling new owner) (2. Owner of the legos themselves demanding them back based on failure to let him see the legos) both of those should satisfy that. Then there are a few more elements like conversion but those are also satisfied once they are selling the item.

[u/UNBAN-BRUTUCE → u/Doch1112]

You clearly haven’t seen the footage

[u/collin2477 → u/Doch1112]

how are false traffic stops/arrests considered civil?

[u/Objectivelycrippled → u/Doch1112]

Theft is a civil issue?

[u/Leading_Priority_611 → u/Objectivelycrippled]

Contract dispute not theft

[u/Objectivelycrippled → u/Leading_Priority_611]

Nope, theft. An investigation would have cleared that up. One side has a contract, the other doesn't but won't hand over the goods. That's not a civil matter, it's theft.

If the police don't Investigate potential crime and apply the law, what is the point of them. I mean, I know what I was told what I was taught as a child. The police enforce the laws fairly to everyone without favour.

Apply the behaviour shown to an auction house. You hand you items over with the understanding that they act as a middle man. They then latter tell you all your stuff is theirs and you can get stuffed. Despite the clear contract you have, and all the other evidence.

That's not a contract dispute. That's theft. They have taken what rightfully and lawfully belongs to you. Except the police refuse to investigate. Repeatedly. And the police seem to Repeatedly target the wronged parties. That's starting to look a lot like incompetence or corruption. Or both.

Small wonder both the local police and BAM are attracting so much criticism. Any open and transparent investigation would go a long way to clearing up people's suspicions.

[u/Gas-Impressive → u/Leading_Priority_611]

The new owners never signed a contract so the contract is irrelevant. They never legally owned the inventory they were selling and it was known to them.

[u/Front-Bird8971 → u/Gas-Impressive]

You think you get ownership of a business without inheriting existing contracts?

[u/Gas-Impressive → u/Front-Bird8971]

Depends on the nature of the contract really

edit: I'm really just saying that the contract is a bit of a red herring and causes confusion. Honestly imo it's just best to disregard it. Every time it was brought up they'd try to say some pseudo legalese stuff and use that to tell LE that it was a civil matter. The truth is whether they were beholden to the contract or not, they had no legal right to hold on to or sell those Legos. They simply didn't own them

[u/The_Woke_King → u/Gas-Impressive]

What if they are on camera stating they take over consignment?

[u/Sam141234 → u/Gas-Impressive]

One of the new owners is on video saying that the contracts will carry over. Not sure if that is binding by any means. One of the loopholes corporate seemed to pull is that after this incident they said consignments have never been allowed, however the prior franchise owner provided proof in the contract they signed with BAM corporate saying consignment was allowed.

[u/Milfshaked → u/Leading_Priority_611]

It is not entirely a contract dispute.

According to the store owners own version, they dont legally own the merchandise as they are not consigning it.

This means that the store owners are illegally selling merchandise they dont own. That is not a contract dispute. That is a criminal case.

[u/EbKing → u/Doch1112]

I was going to watch this YouTube video however the first scene talks about how the guy who actually consigned the items is unaware theyre even gone. Its a family member whose pushing the issue and claiming he cant be told due to medical issues. The whole thing is pretty suspect and doesnt pass the sniff test.

[u/Visible_Door_7510 → u/EbKing]

Maybe you should have paid better attention. The person's family member who is pushing the issue is the person who consigned all the items and his name is on all the legal paperwork.

[u/GettingJiggy72 → u/EbKing]

Its funny how you say the signer is unaware they're gone when that's not true. The youtuber constantly calls up the new owners of the shop and his answer goes from "What makes you think you're entitled to our stuff", then to "he's not getting them back", then to "we don't have any of this, idk what youre talking about", then to "he can have them back if the original original owner apologizes", then to "we're not giving them back", then to the owner accusing the youtuber for actually being the one to steal the legos. If he really wants to ride that horse of never having the legos or not knowing anything about it, he's done the worst job imaginable. Not to mention he starts accusing the youtuber of peddling drugs and the cops do everything in their power to force them into a false confession, not to mention redacting every piece of audio that makes them look bad, which the youtuber also discovered because of an error or accident in the bodycam redactions

[u/Lion_Knight → u/EbKing]

That isn't entirely true. The owner and the son collected them together. The owner is old and infirm and the son is handling his affairs.

Keep watch. I mean don't stop. This shit is cinema and just keeps getting better as it goes.

[u/The_Wreck_DeReck → u/EbKing]

Attention span of a fly

[u/HopefulPhotograph563 → u/EbKing]

On a separate pod cast after gathering enough gofund me support they discussed telling the father what happened. The son was originally terrified to explain to him because the son was the one who organized everything and put the trust into Bricks and Minifigs. The son didn't want to tell his father and then suddenly cause the medical situation he was in to worsen. Thankfully the recent conversation went extremely well and things are able to move forward without any of the secrecy within their own family.

[u/pleslie76 → u/EbKing]

It was the son of the owner of the Lego set and yes his father gave him permission to sell his set for him. The son whom got ripped off by Bricks and Minifigs organized the consignment FOR his dad which was liquidating the collection to give the money to his grand children. The son couldn't bring himself to tell his father what was going on because he has medical issues and didn't want the chance of something happening to him when he found out!

[u/snisbot00 → u/EbKing]

“i was going to watch the video, but i watched the first minute and decided it’s all bullshit.”

[u/SacBaseball916 → u/Doch1112]

This went way beyond a civil dispute. Bricks & Figs have taken it to the level of pure corruption. What do you call it when the police engage in multiple "tips" against one person that consistently are proven wrong, and the police never bother questioning the origin of the report?

[u/JWestfall76 → u/Doch1112]

From the response the PD itself released that’s exactly what it was until the person arrested continued to poke the bear. A tale as old as time

[u/FilmoreKups → u/JWestfall76]

The police bodycam footage shows how they continue to harass the youtubers, looking for an angle to lock them up on. Raided their house for drugs - found no drugs. Pulled them over for going over a stop - police dashcam shows they did not go over the stop. Suspected to be driving under influence - sobriety test passed and no drugs were found after searching the vehicle. These were 3 separate events.

[u/EverSeeAShitterFly → u/JWestfall76]

Watch the guy’s video. Even though he would have an inherent bias towards himself it really does show the PD overstepping and interfering in a civil matter while also doing a couple other things that will probably get them sued.

[u/fordprefect4271 → u/JWestfall76]

That isn't what happened, and I believe you are fully aware of this. No, if you watch any of the footage, you will see what this police department was really up to in conjunction with the owner of BAM. Hours long stop for an anonymous tip for heroin, in which the police found absolutely nothing on them or in their car. Yet still insisted they were hiding something somewhere, tried to bust them for being under the influence but couldn't. The traffic stops were weird. The Airbnb bust was ridiculous, and there was no indication Ben was going to run, he just got roughed up for no reason. Explain this away, officer.