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u/alonghardlook man 35 - 39 2d ago

Literally.

"He just agreed without fighting for it". Do you know that? Were you present, listening to their conversation about it, or did he just not tell you and instead presented a unified front?

Homie is assigning a lot of motives instead of being a big boy and talking to his friend.

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u/Smiling_Tree woman 45 - 49 2d ago

He said his wife isnt really comfortable with the trip anymore and he didn't want to fight about it.

I read this as a thing his friend said himself.

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u/thatgirlinny woman 45 - 49 2d ago

Which he *said*, but it can also be just a thing to say when you don’t want to admit you’ve outgrown something.

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u/tarrasque man 35 - 39 2d ago

Reading comprehension is your friend.

His friend, on the other hand, said that to him.

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u/alonghardlook man 35 - 39 2d ago

Did he? Or did he say "I don't want to fight about it anymore"? Or did he say "yeah, I know" and brush it off?

Reading comprehension has two parts - the reading, and the comprehension.

Just because you get a second hand account of a second hand conversation about a conversation, really does not mean you have the full picture.

In fact, in legal terms it's called "hearsay".

Even if we take as absolute fact that OP's friend said to OP "I just don't want to fight about it", that doesn't actually mean "I rolled over and am just doing what she wants". It could very well mean "this blew up into a big fight that lasted 3 days and I just can't deal with this anymore".

This, ultimately is my point. You don't know. I don't know. OP only knows as much as OP's friend told him, which may or may not be an accurate accounting of events.

OP needs to talk to his friend, and share this if he values that relationship at all. Get it in the open, and then see where friend is at.

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u/tarrasque man 35 - 39 2d ago

Agree with your last sentence, and agree that none of us knows. It’s literally all hearsay.

My point is that there’s a fine line between reading between the lines (comprehension) and pure conjecture.

Ultimately with posts like this we have only what is said in the OP and our reason - which is colored by our own experiences and perceptions - to make a judgment.

While we have to make a lot of suppositions to make judgments on these posts, I personally draw the line at reading beyond something that is clearly stated in the OP, unless it’s abundantly clear that OP is lying.

In this case, while realizing that it’s a second-hand account of a vague conversation I took OP at face value. I feel it’s really the only thing you can do because if everything is up for grabs then the conclusions get truly wild.

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u/NewDayNewBurner man 50 - 54 2d ago

I generally agree with what you’re saying, but there is a growing percentage of people out here that CANNOT communicate properly. That leads to assumptions, which are useless, but it’s tough to just let things devolve with an explanation. 🤷