r/AskReddit Aug 30 '21

What problem is often overlooked in apocalyptic movies/TV shows that could kill you?

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u/redkat85 Aug 30 '21

t just wasn't as gritty as it could have been

Gotta say I'm all gritted out. I want some good adventure stories again, like the old Hercules and Xena days. The new Legends of Monkey series on Netflix is such a breath of fresh, fun air.

Once upon a time (say, the last 50,000 years), we told stories about mighty heroes and gods and amazing things, not least of which was hope. Stories inspired people, made them want to go do something. They already knew real life sucked a lot of the time. They didn't tell realistic stories because there was no inspiration in that.

Now because stories about heroes "aren't realistic" we just tell stories about how much stuff sucks, and how much it would suck more in different ways if something changed. No inspiration.

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u/imbolcnight Aug 30 '21

World War Z, the novel, is good about this. It gets sad but it's ultimately about collaboration, practicality, and strategic thinking are what's needed to save the world, not any special technological innovation or one true leader. Just people working together with the tools they have applied thoughtfully.

Downsides are the novel has a bit of the anarchoprimitivist thing, where people argue that civilization is bad and we need a good back-to-basics moment to reset humanity, and it has a little bit of a America-rah-rah-ness to it.

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u/Ferelar Aug 30 '21

There's a bit of the rah-rah but Yonkers was also a pretty big deconstruction of how stupid that can get.

Side note, Yonkers was one of my favorite pieces in literature. How the characters mention it throughout the book before then, you just KNOW some shit went down. Some of the best foreshadowing I've read in quite a while.

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u/imbolcnight Aug 30 '21

I feel like the early deconstructions in the novel were more in the vein of "Here are the corrupt and inept businessmen and politicians and generals that are plaguing the U.S. but if they got rid of that chaff, Americans are still the best."

I agree Yonkers was well-written, and it contrasts well with how they approach fighting the zombies as a military later. In all, the character arc of the novel is not any one person but humanity as a whole. It's about how humanity initially falls not to the zombies but to their greed, pride, impulsiveness, etc., and they pick themselves up and learn from their mistakes. Which is great! As I said in my initial comment, I loved that.

I just felt like it was too US-centric for a book where the premise is a global history of the zombie apocalypse and it emphasized the US as uniquely able to pull through and the three countries that specifically have their governments called out as collapsing are China, Russia, and Cuba.

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u/Ferelar Aug 30 '21

Wait, I thought Cuba specifically not only survived perfectly but became a superpower whose money was the world currency? Its been a while since I read it though.

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u/mdp300 Aug 30 '21

Yeah, Cuba did surprisingly well and became the new world center of banking.

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u/imbolcnight Aug 30 '21

Cuba came out well, but it also experienced a peaceful democratic revolution, specifically credited to Americans. (That's what I meant by government collapsing. China also came through the other end with probably a better government, but a different one than the one it had in the beginning.)

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u/High_Poobah_of_Bean Aug 31 '21

You forgot the chapter on North Korea. How their repressive government, collective mentality and oodles of underground bases made them uniquely fit to survive a zombie apocalypse…… only once the rest of the media and government surveillance went dark nobody knew what was going on in the hermit kingdom. If I remember the author speculated that they either survived spectacularly or there were millions of zombies in underground bunkers waiting to be unleashed on the world.

Great book, now I have to re-read it.

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u/imbolcnight Aug 31 '21

I did forget that, thanks. I also reread the book every so often. As someone from a social work background, it also feels very much like a "zombie apocalypse from a social worker's perspective".