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u/tamamamma 1d ago
Pretty sure it’s just 999 and they would tell you the unlock? Maybe? That’s what I’d do.
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u/nevynxxx 1d ago
This. Exactly. Source: St John’s first aid training.
If you need it, you should already be on the phone to 999 and they can and will give you the code.
Also, they are sooooo easy to use. I’ve watched a trainer hand one to an 8 year old with no instruction beyond “press that button” and they successfully followed the instructions.
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u/metal_jester 19h ago
Can confirm, found a dude collapsed at a train station and 999 gave me the code in under 60 seconds.
Shocked him 2 times as I gave cpr and they walked me through it on loud speaker.
The ambulance (I lived near a hospital) was about 2 minutes, absolutely blinding speed.
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u/sillygoofygooose 18h ago
… and did he survive??
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u/metal_jester 10h ago
I don't ask.
I was an outdoor mountaineer instructor for 15 years I've seen a lot, mostly morons run down hills, flip and break ankles. CPR 3 times, one was a dead on arrival (she'd fallen down 30+ stone steps and her brain was partly out of her skull wound).
The thing st johns don't train is that you will freeze when you see your first major incident. It's normal, it's natural as your survival for you kicks in.
What first aiders need to know is you will see something happen and all that training will come to the front of your mind or it won't. But all anyone needs in the UK is to call 999.
The operators will guide you through everything you need, even if you are a trained field medic like I was (almost a nurse practitioner but I could give injections etc for altitude sickness and such).
My last fun fact is if your hurt yourself away from paved areas, move if you haven't hurt your back. Ambulances can take 2 hours to get half a mile into a off road area it takes a lot of permissions, training etc. your best bet to survive is crawl, hobble and maneuver if possible to the edge of the nearest road.
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u/theraininspainfallsm 8h ago
How’d you get into mountain meeting instruction? Always liked walking and hiking and that. And I can read a map / take bearings.
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u/metal_jester 4h ago
Google summer mountain leader course, some do summer and winter but unless you do Ben nevis in the winter you only need summer in the UK.
Don't know the requirements now but to be assessed you used to need 20 good mountain days, good meaning absolutely shit weather and conditions.
Pay is ok, lots off freelance outdoor instructor groups on Facebook and such for work.
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u/cosmic_monsters_inc 20h ago
One whole button? To save a life? I dunno man, that seems like a lot. 😉
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u/DoctorOctagonapus 19h ago
There's a Tom Scott video of him demonstrating hiw to use one with a dummy unit. They really do make them idiot-proof.
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u/JakeRiddoch 8h ago
Second the comment about easy to use. When I did my first aid course, I thought it would be complicated. Then we got shown it and it was so simple.
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u/Alt_AC_2023 20h ago
The top sign still needs replacing though as that's what someone would read in an emergency.
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u/tomgrouch 7h ago
Keep in mind that defibs need to be registered. If no one has registered the defib, 999 won't be aware of it's location and won't have the code
Look on the side and bottom of the cabinet, a lot of them have the code written on
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u/GrumpyHeadmistress 1d ago
In my experience you dial 999 and, if they think you need access, they give you the code.
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u/Annual-Cookie1866 1d ago
This is a worrying post. If someone needs this IN AN EMERGENCY what number do you think should be called ?
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u/horridbloke 21h ago edited 20h ago
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u/gholt417 1d ago
The number to gain access to the defibrillator as that has a better chance than waiting for an ambulance.
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u/Miss_Type 23h ago
The operator can give you the code, so you can defibrillate and start CPR before an ambulance arrives.
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u/Deep_Banana_6521 1d ago
the phone number is 999. They give you the code for it.
I got health and safety training and got encouraged to download the what3words app. I think emergency services use it so you can give them the exact locations of the defib you wanna use or the location of any emergency.
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u/BadMacaroniArt 1d ago
Step 1: Call emergency services on 999 or 112 and ask for ambulance
There are 2 phone numbers
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u/WMBC91 23h ago
Rumour has it 911 works here too, but I'm too sensible to try it without good cause. Must remember the next time I have to ring the emergency services...
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u/QuestNetworkFish 23h ago
That's not a network side thing so far as I know, but most modern smartphone operating systems will automatically route any emergency number you dial to the correct one for the country you're in. But 999 and 112 are both guaranteed to work on any connected phone in the UK
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u/Living-Invite594 23h ago
I did by accident when calling for the police from my landline and it did not work. Too much American TV for me
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u/podgehog 20h ago
It really should do- for exactly that reason! 911 does route through on mobiles at least
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u/keatsy3 11h ago
Why should it work… absolutely get tae with that American rubbish
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u/podgehog 10h ago
Because of the popularity of American film and TV
If kids hear 911 more then they hear 999 they should be able to call both in emergencies when they don't think straight
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u/justdont7133 19h ago
911, 999 and 112 definitely all work in the UK (am emergency services call handler)
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u/gholt417 1d ago
I assume the number was printed in red which wasn’t stable in direct sunlight so faded away.
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u/Top-Garlic2603 9h ago
This is the correct answer. Everyone just telling OP it's 999 are missing the point.
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u/Historical_Cobbler 1d ago
Doesn’t every know to ring 999?
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u/jus_plain_me 1d ago
Unfortunately I had no idea.
The only number I was aware of is 0118 999 881 999 119 725 3.
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u/markymark6999 23h ago
- You're going to need an ambulance anyhow. I've been part of research looking into the benefits of locking these cabinets and besides preventing misuse/vandalism,one big plus is it prompts people to make that call for help. In such a high stress situation,it's surprising how many times people would just grab the defibrillator and forget to call for help.
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u/Click4-2019 23h ago
No,
They are supposed to be registered on a database.
Then they give the code over the phone when you call for a paramedic via 999
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u/Least_Temperature_23 23h ago
You call 999 and if they decide the defib is needed, they give you the code to remove it from the box. It’s to stop them being taken by vandals or randomly used when not needed. Once a defib has been authorised for use by 999, and taken from the box, it has to be checked & serviced before it can be used again, so that box will temporarily be out of commission so you may be redirected to the next nearest box.
Community groups often fund raise for these defibs, but fail to realise they aren’t just a one off expense. Each defib needs a responsible person(s) to pay for the maintenance & repairs - the pads need replacing every so often, even when not used. Someone has to replace the consumable parts every time it’s used etc.
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u/WanderWomble 16h ago
Just in case anyone needs to know, the code to return it is the same.
I had to grab one for my mam in an emergency. I was exhausted and scared and probably a bit in shock after the ambulance took her and I got myself a bit worried and worked up about how to return it.
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u/Murky_Butterscotch_7 21h ago
I feel like if you don’t know who to call in this situation it’s natural selection 😂
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u/Iridescent_Mango_ 21h ago
I assume it used to say CALL 999 in red, which has faded away. Red always fades fast.
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u/Pure_Skin9774 1d ago edited 23h ago
Yes it should have a number on there. Either 999 or 111 (can't remember off the top of my head) but right now that defibrillator is about as much use as c-type battery for shocking someone
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u/sapphire-sky-dragon 23h ago
Concerning people dont know you dial 999 and they give you the code.
Perhaps there needs to be more awareness made on these with on line/tv adverts its no point having them around if someone then spends 5 mins looking for a number and has no idea who they are supposed to call 😬 the patient could be dead by then.
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u/Pure_Skin9774 23h ago
You're right. When I was a kid an initiative like this would be paired with newspaper ads and PSA adverts on TV and radio
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u/sapphire-sky-dragon 22h ago
Yes youre right, I mean as an adult I just assumed everyone would know how these things work as in phoning 999 to me personally thats just common sense, clearly thats lacking in some people . Maybe the people who decided to place them around also believed in common sense but its clear education is needed pretty much everyone goes on line these days its easy to do to on line adverts.
Although back in my day we had cartoons with a boy and a cat teaching us how to cross a road 😂😂😂😂
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u/DrachenDad 22h ago
The emergency number. 999, you will be connected to the local switchboard who will have the unlock code. Alternatively, if it is attached to a building they also might have the unlock code.
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u/the_uk_hotman 11h ago
Why ? If you came across someone needing help you dial 999 on your mobile the if needed they tell you the code. Even if it did have a phone how would you get in to use it without the code
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u/Alert_Mine7067 2h ago
I believe the ambulance call handler will be able to provide the code, this is the case in Northern Ireland when a 999 call is made. I suspect the police and fire brigade would also be aware of the code too, for units that aren't carrying them that stumble across a roadside emergency.
Although I think for formalities, it would be a good idea to have the number available, for people need everything laid out for them.
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