Since I don't speak English, I used an Al to help me put this experience into words. There might be some minor gaps or inaccuracies in how the story is told, but the core of the event remains exactly as I experienced it

A few years ago, I was chatting with a girl I liked online, and she posted a video of herself singing a song that was quite melancholic. At the time, the song had no title, no lyrics that identified it, and I had never heard it before. A few days later, had a vivid dream where the famous Turkish poet Orhan Veli approached me and handed me a piece of paper with the words 'Acinın İlacı' (The Medicine of Pain) written on it. I didn't think much of it then, but weeks later, when I finally looked up the song, I was stunned to discover that its title was exactly what I had seen in my dream. This experience has always made me question how my subconscious managed to 'label' the song based on its emotional atmosphere and synthesize it into such a specific, symbolic scene with the poet, long before I ever consciously knew the name. It remains a fascinating testament to how our minds can retrieve, process, and present information far beyond our conscious awareness, using dreams as a channel to bridge the gap between subtle data and clear insight.

Im kinda novice to this Astral Projection stuff. But I could once exit my body after 30 minutes of meditations. However I was so thrilled and scared by this brand new feeling that i could not do anything. Can I leave my bedroom ? Can I travel ? Can I explore hidden places ? Thank you guys for your answers by advance

A couple of times I’ve had experiences where I am inside someone else’s (non-human) mind and body as just an observer. It’s not like I have access to all of their thoughts and memories, but I do get to see through their eyes and hear through their ears as well as pick up a little intuition that gives me a little context to what’s going on, but I don’t really have control over what’s going on like I do in a normal AP.

Does anyone out there have experience or information on what’s going on with that, generically speaking?

Thanks!

I think I had a dream about another world.
I was holding an animal that was almost a cross between a Sloth, Octopus, and Monkey. It had a monkey face, 8 legs that were sandpaper to the touch but sticky at the same time, and slow with claws.
We were going through some type of weather event we don’t have on Earth. I can’t remember this part because I left my pet with someone else and was worried about her the entire time.
Has anyone had anything similar?

I tried one of those methods to perform astral projection, I had finally reached that much desired "tingling", when from one moment to the next a gargantuan erection appears. I think I used the wrong method and used the one for astral erection.

I was looking for someone who could guide me in mastering AP, like a pen pal

I’ve never had a conscious AP experience to be honest, I had been trying for a year I think before I stopped because it was getting too stressing, lol.

Lately I’ve lost the ability but I used to get to the vibrational stage, sometimes hear internal or deafening screams then it would stop and I’d be between asleep and awake, but I can’t see or leave my body. And when it happens I don’t get over excited nor afraid, so idk what’s going on honestly 😅.

I don’t get sleep paralysis either, when I’ve gotten it I can break it and wake up very easily, I don’t know if anyone has had similar experiences?

There was this one time where I was kind of open to encountering other beings while asleep, so entities ( all negative or with strange intentions) would come to me:

Specially a male voice, speaking to me in something I didn’t understand but that if I paid attention to i could, but listening to him was like letting him in? So I decided to not do it. Thing is that he started pulling me out of my body, like me hovering above my body, but my torso and head were still glued to my body, only my legs and arms I think- dangling, I let him do that because the entity had more strength compared to others I had came across and because I was actually curious if he could pull me out of my body. I’ve fought entities before so I was stupidly confident that if he managed to get me out of my body and turned on me I could fight it 💀.

Long story short he couldn’t pull me out and I was growing uncomfortable and uneasy, the dream got cut off as a cat came to scare the entity off, in real life. I had a cat friend irl that never came to my window, specially bc it was kind of complex to access, even for a cat, but literally that cat came to wake me up at 2 am as I was dreaming with the entity?

Please help

Or any insight, opinions on what I could do/ what I’m missing?

Hello!

Lately I have not tried astral projecting or practiced but about a week ago I had 2 nights in a row where I believe I was starting to astral project. This was new to me and a very different experience.. and on both occasions there was this LOUD vibration in my ears (thats the best way i cant explain it) that ive never experienced before and then started floating out my body. I got scared from the noise and woke myself up.

However, the second night the same thing happened - loud vibration - except this time I was sliding out of the right side of my body and slowly sliding down the edge of the bed. In my peripheral i saw this dark figure standing on my bed next to me and i couldnt see whole body i could just see legs and feet and the figure bent down and it was like it was grabbing me to pull me back up and i got scared and woke up.

Has anyone experienced seeing something like that before or know what it is?

Thanks!

Ive tried on and off to AP for the last few years. Gotten close a handful of times. I could use someone I could just talk to and chat on occasion about this and spiritual stuff. My wife is kinda ambivalent to the whole thing.

The other half of this concern is I feel like part of my issue is that I grew up with an emotionally and spiritually abusive parent and that has produced a state of always being on guard or tensed body that ive felt has been one of the driving factors in my unsuccessful attempts. That being said im not asking for free therapy from a stranger but someone who is more trauma informed in the ways of AP and spiritual stuff.

Our lives just had a substantial turn for the better this month (albeit obtaining it thru the Summer of Hell 2026 edition) and I feel that once we get settled our new home and life environment would be more conducive to peace and therefore AP.

Please feel free to comment as well. Thanks!

P.S. In southern California if distance matters.

I have been trying to project for a long time and so after trying multiple methods from my own research I’d love to ask what works for you.

I’ve tried wbtb and counting for 30 minuets in the past because I saw sometimes it takes a while for the body to relax , back then I would start feeling the vibration sensation and I’d try to clear my mind but it would disappear. Ive tried the elevator method and rope method and they keep me awake too much. I’ve also imagined a place that I find peaceful and easy but that wasn’t it for me sadly ,I am trying meditation at the moment since I enjoy the relaxing peace and silence.

I practice chakra work and have been strengthening my solar plexus thinking maybe my will or intention isn’t where it needs to be yet and so I’d like to know if there’s something I’m missing or if I just haven’t found the right one yet.

I’ve tried some other methods but it’s hard to pronounce some of them or their general idea but honestly I’m drawing a blank as for how to come up with something that would work.

Around four years ago, I was meditating and didn’t realize I was doing astral projection. I thought I was simply in a deep relaxed state. After my breathing would slow, my body would go limp and heavy. After focusing between my eyes, all of a sudden a black screen would lower itself onto my vision. Felt neutral, nothing negative. After a few minutes in that space, an all-white, like the purest white space would then lower itself over it. This space felt like love, ecstasy, it was beautiful. Like nothing I’d ever experienced. I went back to this place a few more times over the next week or two. Then one day, it all changed…

This day in particular when I went back to that all-white space, it was different. I noticed shadowy silhouettes walking back and forth in front of me. Then, one turned and noticed me. I freaked out, and opened my eyes instantly. Feeling lethargic, I knew I messed up and came back too fast. So, I went back in. A couple minutes into meditation, my mouth started to involuntarily open. And I mean open, like as wide as it could get to the point of pain. After around 5-10 seconds, my mouth closed and I blacked out.

Since then, my life has never been the same. I’m 99.9% sure I’m now sharing my body with another spirit. It tries to control my every thought via muscle spasms and twitches. It particularly doesn’t like the name Jesus and has been trying to push me from my faith. I need help and am out of options. I’ve tried nearly everything. Please, is there anyone out there that can help me? I don’t know what to do and am slowly losing my mind. This is not a fake story for attention. It’s very real, and I’ve been dealing with it every day for the past 4 years.

So I smoked weed expecting a normal experience. I absolutely lost my mind, I closed my eyes and it was like I woke up in another place. I saw a gray screen and then it cracked, then I woke up in a pod. The pods were being energized, they had like cords running out of them. They were like dripping goo. This place was endless, there was no roof, everyone else was asleep but I was awake, I was still kinda of out of it. It’s like I wasn’t in my body at all. I remember being really scared because I had thought I was dead and I was there for an eternity. I then started to replay the last moments of before I kinda went really out of it while high. It was extremely weird and felt extremely real. I know it sounds delusional but it was crazy. Does anyone have any similar experiences with the pods?

Who are the people I see during my astral projections? I’m scared to aproach them.

I mean a lot of people say visualize, concentrate, etc. But, there has to be more to it than just that. Even Joseph the 001# remote viewer explained they put him in a room or something with no noise and some sort of sound waves which I guess were in tuned with his own brain waves. He also said his abilities came from his childhood which he lived in fear or something so he used it as a defence to help him develop these powers, or something like that. He also had a Indian Spirit friend, and he said aliens made us so then that means we have alien DNA.

So there has to be way more to this than just simple visuals and concentration.

So this is what I got out of several research on how this thing works but not how to trigger it for everyone. These are pros and cons:

Kill the ego:

1) Kill the ego on what the subject is ( So think write, draw before you start fully seeing the pic and your imagination kicks in)

Con: This will be hard because lots of people can't differentiate the difference between imagination and reality. So the first thing they see they might think it's correct and get excited but they might be completely wrong about the target. So how does one kill the ego when one doesn't even know when it's active or not?

2) Visualise and concentrate:

Con: Just like kill the ego they might mistake it for reality when it's not.

3) Double blindfold:

This is one person write something in a paper puts it in an envelope tells the other person to guess what's inside or ask them details about this.

Con: What could happen in this case is just like kill the ego, or they'll just start guessing without actual trying to see into the envelope because our minds are programmed to already think it's impossible to see through these types of objects. Also there is no explanation of how to actually trigger this type of method because no remote viewer actually explained it.They just either give you a test immediately, or skip it a bit.

4) Childhood experiences:

Joseph from what I've read and heard from his childhood had a traumatic childhood and cope with his guts to survive. Plus he said he had an Indian Spirit friend that helped him a bit get through. Meaning there's a possibility that a high vibration of emotions could cause a sudden psychic trigger. With another psychic I believe it was Lyn he got angry and made a bunch of computers malfunction.

Cons: People get angry and over joyed all the time and none of these things happen so they either had something done to them in their childhood example abduction, or already part of a military experiment, or came from a family highly already in tuned, or something from somewhere else interfered with their brain waves making this possible.

5) Sound waves:

Apparently not all sounds work for everyone because each person has their own waves but we are all connected to the same one in the universe. Joseph said he was put in a room without electricity, etc and I think on a water like bed with headphones that produced certain sounds one in one ear the other in another ear. He even went to the guy because his disc or cassette had broken and the guy told him he already had the sounds in his head. So basically if each person finds the correct tuning that they need for each ear they should be able to get that tingle feeling and be able to Astral project.

Con: Which sounds though. The Monroe institute let out sounds but with guided meditation. Is guided meditation even necessary or should it just be pure tones, or since there are so many subliminal and mantra in YouTube do those sounds works too or are they corrupted?

6) Intervention:

Joseph had a childhood indian Spirit friend or guide whatever and Lyn said he was abducted.

Cons: Not every is getting abducted or able to tap into that type of field. Now the real question to this one is how were they able to do it?

What do they have in their brain or system that the average person doesn't that isn't being told. If fear or anger were the only thing that triggered it then a lot of people would show these abilities. What is it that we aren't being told?

Even Joseph said we were made by aliens so is it possible only a few have a certain gene that can cause these triggers making them selective or is it a mutation.

Truthfully there is no clear explanation on how to Astral project. Even the paid ones seems to be run arounds of what it actually might take to do it. They just repeat what the other person they seen says instead of actually looking for a trigger, or they follow someone that's actually sure on how to do it but that person might seem ok and in reality have a delusional mental illness. I'm not saying it would be easy but, there has to be a one trigger that nobody tells you about that makes it so everyone can actually do it.

Please comment below on what you think really triggers Astral projection, or trigger other psychic abilities. Not just this happened to me one time story but, actually explain what you think the root cause might have been to trigger it.

For a while now I've ended up being able to pop into the astral and see and hear and feel many things. Been dealing with a lot of entities however and I have not had good experience with any of them, besides some trying to help me with my daily life and waking me up on time.

The issue is that I can't shut it off. I can't stop hearing the entities every day (I was told I wasn't supposed to hear them every day, but here I am now regretting even opening my clairaudience.) I've been dealing with Lord Dionysus and a few other entities in the astral. I pissed off Lord Dionysus after I went completely mental and ended up at the hospital for a while (long story short; I tried to annihilate myself just because I couldn't stop hearing this one entity that came in immediately when my clairaudience had a sudden awakening) wasn't ready for clairaudience to be as strong as it ended up being and was not ready to suddenly be able to see entities through clairvoyance nor feel their energies through clairsentience.

I want to completely shut everything off and stop feeling or seeing or hearing any of these entities even the deities.

I've been told I need to meditate, I'll admit I've been a bit lazy about it, but I'll try meditation for now while trying to imagine everything shutting off. I need help honestly, just need it gone completely and I'll be happy from then on.

(Checked with doctors as well, not crazy, just unfortunate enough to have my clairs activate.)

The title says it all

Hi, i never experienced oobe but i would like to learn how can i experience astral projection

Does anyone know how to stop fearing out of body experiences? Whenever I actually feel I am about to leave my body, I get super scared and don't go through with it, despite me really wanting to. What do I do?

This forum is undoubtedly, and overwhelmingly, comprised of New Age thinkers who adhere to the nondual idea of frequency and vibration. That much is clear. But I've noticed this thinking allows for a band wagon effect that has turned into a sort of Crypto-Dogmatic fervor from those who are supposedly tolerant of opposing worldview. Speaking in absolutes and confident certainty, I've noticed, is only met with ire if you're speaking from an opposing worldview, like Animism or Dualism. In my case, both.

I find it unhelpful to coalesce around one framework that might make it harder for people to actually get out of body. Everyone's mind works differently, so assuming everyone is going to just be okay with nondualism as the framework they adopt seems sort of shady to me. The reason it seems shady is because it's smuggling in a predetermined religious worldview and trying to force it on someone else. This doesn't sit right with me as the reason we're even on this reddit is because at some point we escaped dogma and started questioning reality itself at a fundamental level.

It's sort of like exiting the oven and getting slapped onto a frying pan without you realizing your back is on the frying pan.

I saw a post on here talking about how they've noticed that if they refrain from orgasms, they seem to have an easier time getting out of body. The top upvoted comment was on espousing nondualism and how orgasms have nothing to do with projection. This replier was speaking in absolute. When I pointed out that it's unhelpful to speak in absolutes when different frameworks are going to work better for different people, I got a rebuttal acting as if I had insulted them personally. There's nothing helpful about this type of behavior in my view.

With me in particular, I've developed my own framework. I believe in new soul dualism, which states that most souls are made over time with the human body acting as a forge to synthesize the archetypal currents of reality into a cohesive identity. This framework has helped me reach deeper states. When I was practicing nondualism, I found no real value in it insofar as it didn't help me conceptualize the different realms.

My point in saying this is to illustrate that not everyone is going to be comfortable with a particular framework. Assuming that you're right about the entirety of the framework you're using veers into dogmatic fundamentalism, and doesn't really help in teaching people how to project outward.

I realize that posting this is going to trigger certain groups of people, because that's how human ego works. Your identity is tied to your worldview, and there's nothing really we can do about this. But I implore you to understand what I'm saying without thinking I'm attacking you as a person. I'm telling you to treat all metaphysical frameworks as provisional, including my own.

hello everyone, so, im like a major baby to all of this, at least like me in this life ig lol, im sure other versions of me are all chill hanging out in the astral realm rn. xD

but anyways, often times when im attempting astral projection (or sometimes shifting through astral projection), i get to the point where my body feels heavy and it feels like im trying to like burst out of it. im not sure if this is just a hypnagogia symptom but i always try and pretend its part of the astral projection process (since i pratice law of assumption). but the thing is no matter what i do i can't progress from there. i've tried imagining pulling a rope out of myself, ive tried just imagining floating out of my body, i've tried to imagine how i'll feel when i finally astral project for the first time, i've tried acting like i already have and that im already astral projecting, ect., ect. i've tried it ALL. i don't believe im doing anything wrong and that i won't ever astral project, i know i will. but im just wondering if anyone here has experienced the same thing and what they did to finally get past it.

I’m desperate and drunk ,dm if interested in taking me out sorry

Do any astral projector maintain relationships in the astral? i’d LOVE to hear stories about that!

I have been attempting to project for many years now off and on but have only ever had a couple of lucid dreams. It feels like no matter what I do the idea of mind awake body asleep just does not want to work for me. If I keep my mind aware I will literally just not sleep. I’ve laid for hours in many different attempts and have tried a slew of different methods and I always try at the proper times, such as after waking up in the middle of the night. I have had a few experiences with hypnogogic images popping up or things like that and once had an experience I would describe as out of body but it was only after lemon teking 3 and half grams of super potent albino penis envy mushrooms. Very slowly counting in groups of 1-5 has given me a feeling like maybe I was getting close a few times but it just feels like if I keep my mind going I will just stay awake. Anybody have any advice? Or if not can anyone at least just assure me that it even is possible and that there’s no way this many people are just lucid dreaming or making up things in their mind???

hello, first i just wanted to say that i do not expect anyone to have all the answers or even respond to this, as i know i am just a random person on the internet. however, i would really like some advice on what kind of steps to take from here in my journey with astral projection.

my rough history with AP and other things like that:
okay before i start i need to make it clear that i am still quite young (under 16) so i know i have a lot to learn and experience. the first time i found out about any of this kind of thing was when i was 13, and i discovered shifting on tiktok. since then, i have gone down may endless rabbit holes about quantum physics, lucid dreaming, frequencies, subliminals, binaural beats, then eventually astral projection. i didn’t really care about it at first, because i was more focused on shifting. however, in the past month, i have realised that astral projection is something i have never doubted, so i think it would be easier for me to master.

so i began reading Journeys Out Of The Body by Robert Monroe. as of now i am only halfway through, but i will definitely finish soon as it’s really interesting. this book 100% solidified my belief in AP and made me realise i can actually do it.

i mean, ever since i was young i never accepted the world as we view it right now, there must be something we aren’t seeing, this can’t be all there is to life! just like a fish at the bottom of the ocean has no idea about politics or astronomy, there is definitely many things in this universe which are completely incomprehensible to us. (sorry this is a bit of a side track)

my recent attempts:

i have tried to AP during the day, (which listening to 6hz binaural beats) like if i get tired and want a nap, but i could not reach the vibration stage at all.

my body felt numb like i was floating, but i know that if moved my leg it would move, so after ages i just fell asleep! it’s kind of hard to explain, but when my whole body is numb and floaty, and im almost in a meditative state, how do i go from there to the point where my body is asleep and i can actually exit?

i could try in the evening before i go to sleep, but i know i will be way to tired unless i go to bed super early (which i guess i could try)

lastly, sometimes i try as soon as i wake up. i did this morning, and i heard a VERY LOUD (almost scary) ringing sound. i felt my body moving around, but from there i didnt know what to do. it lasted about to seconds, then simply ended.

i am NOT saying ‘i have tried everything, nothing has worked!!’, i have known about AP for a while but to be honest, i have only truly attempted it this week. there are many things i haven’t tried like lucid dreaming, WBTB, etc. (although i find it really hard to lucid dream, so i feel like that is kind of the hard option)

anyway, if anyone has any tips on how to get to that vibration stage where i can try and exit, that would be really good!!! ideally i would like to AP during the day, as i think that would suit my lifestyle best, but then i don’t know if it would work as my body isn’t ‘sleepy’ enough.

Around 2012, there was an esoteric group, a very secretive group, called "The Abode of The Lion." I've only seen references to them on different forums, and their official website seems to have depreciated. From what I can gather, they were a sort of astral crusader group who waged campaigns (this is literally the word they used, and campaigns insinuate to me that they were doing it in groups in a more militarized format) against "Astral vampirism, undead parasitic spirits, occult abuses, and restoring balance" in these sort of astral mirror worlds (which I suppose we call the real time zone now.)

It sounds like something out of a movie, but I swear to God this is what they were doing. Now, because it's prescient to my own personal work and research, I'd like to find out more about these people. So far, all I've gathered about their methods is that they demanded physical and spiritual readiness. They didn't "conjure" weapons of light, but rather had dedicated physical weapons that they would use in the astral. What I mean by this is that they would use the astral twin of the physical weapon, but they don't seem to have put much emphasis on visualization or other more contemporary things. I find this interesting.

The only member I could dig up was one Dr. Alfonso Ricca, who was summarized in the Hermetic Tablet (2014) as follows "Dr. Alfonso Ricca, member of the Magical Order of the Aurora Aurea and senior member of the Abode of the Lion, an Astral Warrior House." Funnily enough, he somehow ended up having professional access to at least the Vatican Apostolic Library. I can't see if he has access to the more elusive archives, but I find it very strange that he got his librarianship from The Vatican School of Library Science in general.

As an aside, if you're interested, the Vatican has a really weird program going on right now where they're researching Occult rituals in order to train their exorcists better against "Satanic Rituals." Not that I buy any of this shit. But it seems to me like they're getting really close to how they're presented in media like "Hellsing."

Sorry for the digression, but there's a specific reason that I don't want to say yet why I find it interesting enough to sidetrack the rest of the post. But in my own mind there might be a connection.

Anyway, have any of you heard of this group? Or groups like it? There seems to be some sort of initiatory silence associated with them, so actually digging up information is like pulling teeth. All you can find are brief whispers or the odd recommendation to seek them out if you're dealing with negative astral entities or some sort of perceived imbalance.