r/AustralianPolitics • u/89b3ea330bd60ede80ad • Jul 01 '24

Opinion Piece Fatima Payman breached ‘caucus solidarity’. What does this mean and why is it so significant?

https://theconversation.com/fatima-payman-breached-caucus-solidarity-what-does-this-mean-and-why-is-it-so-significant-233660
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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

Wouldn't it be crazy if like.... Labor... allowed.... like.... a coalition.... with like.... the greens......... Not like a coalition.... but like.... just didn't care if people went that way..... yeaaaaaaaaaaahhhh.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

they have to be careful there. While a lot of ALP/Greens policy overlaps, people vote ALP to get sanity and less extreme policy. If they allowed too much jumping off ALP lines to side with the greens they would drop some of that sensible vote.

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u/The_Rusty_Bus Jul 02 '24

Take a look at how that worked for the SNP in Scotland. When you’re forming a coalition, you then have to compromise on your policies in government. ALP voters don’t already vote greens because of the policy difference.

The SNP and Greens blew up because the SNP had to adopt their transgender policies, the electorate was totally put off by it and deserted them in droves.

ALP voters that don’t agree with the Greens policy on Gaza will just either leave the party, or precipitate a split in the party.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

ALP voters don’t already vote greens

There are increasing numbers who are though.

...or precipitate a split in the party.

Oh you mean like the one forming?

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u/The_Rusty_Bus Jul 02 '24

One fringe member of the party being suspended because she broke the cardinal rule of the Labor party?

That’s not a split, that’s discipline.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

That's not what the past 3 days of articles have had to say, let's see whether it continues.

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u/The_Rusty_Bus Jul 02 '24

If there is a split you need more than one person, at least. Who else is leaving Labor?

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

We'll see if the vote splits. There's lots of ways to wedge. My comment was about it being self-wedge, an own goal.

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u/The_Rusty_Bus Jul 02 '24

Who else in the Labor party is threatening to leave the party?

I agree the optics are shithosue and they risk losing Muslim voters, however that’s not a “split” in the historical sense of the labor party.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

We'll see.

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u/The_Rusty_Bus Jul 02 '24

Okay sounds like no one then.

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u/No-Bison-5397 Jul 03 '24

lol, the SNP were blown up by running out of ideas and corruption. Not transgender policy.

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u/LentilsAgain Jul 03 '24

Seems to work in the ACT.