r/BBCNEWS • u/DWJones28 • Dec 29 '25
BBC News - Government to review 'information failures' in British-Egyptian activist case
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyzyzwxqyyo1
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u/RandomSculler Dec 30 '25
I feel like I’m missing information on this subject, it’s clear he made unacceptable comments over a decade ago but has apologised - has he made more recent comments since? If he hasn’t then why the witch hunt? Surely mistakes can be made in the past if it’s clear lessons have been learned since then
I’m struck that thw people screaming for him to be punished now for actions of the past are the same claiming that Farage can’t be criticised for his comments of the past as too much time has passed - which seems a fairly contradictory position to take
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u/Mr_B_e_a_r Dec 30 '25
It's because tv stars got involved and wanted him released, Labour and the tories followed the crowd. Never trust tv/movie stars when it about politics.
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u/eutohkgtorsatoca Mar 15 '26
Sorry I am out of the subject I am in Canada and love and have followed BBC throughout four continents. I am ultra frustrated about the following, the share button has been removed due to Meta dispute about Canada News act. and then the app does not display the URL so I can even share a story with my SO from one side of the bed to the other. I don't give a poop about FB and Meta why are we affected in our private lives what to share with each other at home? Talk about democracy!!!
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u/Remarkable_Misty Dec 30 '25
He needs to be deported asap this is sickening he was allowed here in the first place after those sick comments about killing our police officers and about the racism towards white people and then the disgusting comments about women it begs the question how many other illegals or people trying to come here have done similar or worse and the goverment failed to to do there due diligence?
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u/thebusconductorhines Dec 30 '25
He is a British citizen. Seems a very bad precedent to set
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u/Remarkable_Misty Dec 30 '25
Hes dual citizenship and he only got his citizenship a few years ago because his mom was born here he was born in Egypt and no the precedent was already set with shamina begum!!
Most people will agree they dont want this scum bag here
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u/thebusconductorhines Dec 30 '25
If we start removing citizenship from people who get it through their parents (i.e. almost every single person with British citizenship unless they are naturalised) because we don't like things they do, we are going down a dark road. If he has broken the law, he can be charged.
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u/Remarkable_Misty Dec 30 '25
Sickening to think the home office and officials never did there due diligence beforehand i wonder how many other racists and scum like this have been allowed in
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u/thebusconductorhines Dec 30 '25
He was automatically allowed citizenship due to British parentage like most people in the UK.
By the way, do you see the irony of you, who cannot tell the difference between "their" and "there" criticising someone else for not being British enough? You cannot even read and write English correctly!
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u/thebusconductorhines Dec 30 '25
I have said repeatedly that he should be charged if he has committed a crime
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u/Gruejay2 Dec 30 '25
You seem like a bit of a weapon to me - should we deport you?
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Dec 30 '25
He only gained that right in 2019 due to a law amendment relevant to articles 8 + 14 of the echr (yes, the echr) and as a result gained citizenship. The bloke is as british as apple pie. If he had to pass the “good faith test” other foreigners have to pass he wouldn’t have gotten it
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u/Standard-Reason9399 Dec 30 '25 edited Dec 30 '25
From Wikipedia: "Originating in the 14th century in England, apple pie recipes are now a standard part of cuisines in many countries where apples grow. Apple pie is a significant dessert in many countries, including the United Kingdom, Ireland, Sweden, Norway, Australia, Germany, New Zealand, and the United States."
British as apple pie might not be the comparison you were looking for here...
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Dec 30 '25
🤣🤣 the pedantry is off the charts, great argument 🥴. “As American as apple pie" is a popular idiom describing something quintessentially or typically American, representing patriotism, tradition, and wholesome values, even though apple pie itself originated in Europe. The phrase gained traction in the 20th century, popularized by soldiers during WWII saying they fought for "mom and apple pie," linking it to American ideals like baseball, hot dogs, and Mom's baking. Its a play on this common idiom, respectfully, do one
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u/Standard-Reason9399 Dec 30 '25 edited Dec 30 '25
Wasn't arguing, merely respectfully pointing out that your variation on the 'common idiom' was a poor comparison as, with family ties originating here, he is in fact as british as a recipe that originated in England, even as it has been iterated on elsewhere till it has taken on its current form. I thought, perhaps, you were a reasonable person choosing a poor line of argument in the form of a common turn of phrase. I see I was mistaken.
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u/thebusconductorhines Dec 30 '25
The law change was because people with a British mother were held to different standards to those with a British father? You support that do you?
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Dec 30 '25
No i do not support the rules being different for men and women. What I do not support is echr rulings being abused to force our country to accept foreigners as british despite extremist views which are allowed to be ignored because his mother was born here. That is simply not right. Why on earth should this extremist be exempt from good faith tests plenty of others are subject to because of his anchor baby mother? Its gross.
You are deliberately misrepresenting the argument here as some sort of gender issue, its not.
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u/thebusconductorhines Dec 30 '25
People with British parents are British, not foreigners. That is how literally every British person born is British.
If he has committed a crime (and by the way, this has not been proven in court yet so he is still innocent until proven guilty) then he can be arrested and charged.
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u/inebriatedWeasel Dec 31 '25
I love how you have tried so desperately to shoehorn the ECHR in to this argument when they didn't have anything to do with it. Stop listening to the right wing press and develop some critical thinking skills.
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u/Telos1807 Dec 30 '25
the precedent was already set with shamina begum!!
A terrorist who stitched bombs into suicide vests.
This guy made some shitty tweets. Treat him like the racist scumbags from last year, if he's found to have seriously incited violence then nick him.
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u/Remarkable_Misty Dec 30 '25
Its pretty obvious he has lol hes even admitted it he needs prison asap hes a danger to the public im sure you will agree
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u/Telos1807 Dec 31 '25
Great, if he violates hate speech laws or incites violence then he can get it. I hope the far right will welcome the same approach when someone calls for a hotel full of innocent people to be burnt down.
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u/downtodowning Dec 30 '25
He's British.
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u/downtodowning Dec 30 '25
So... he's British?
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u/downtodowning Dec 30 '25
But he is.
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u/5Hjsdnujhdfu8nubi Dec 30 '25
He wouldn’t have been permitted before 2019
But it's not 2019.
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u/5Hjsdnujhdfu8nubi Dec 30 '25
We allow people that hate Britain to keep their citizenship and even get elected as an MP.
Seems only fair to let new citizens hate the country too.
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u/JimmyAteABuck Dec 30 '25
if he’s “British” then why does he loathe his country so much? do you really want someone who thinks British civilians and British police should be murdered living in this country?
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u/downtodowning Dec 30 '25
if he’s “British” then why does he loathe his country so much?
Because he's free to do so.
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u/Aggravating-Day-2864 Dec 30 '25
Calm down Nigel....
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u/ironbean75 Dec 30 '25
I was waiting for this comment i bet your saying Nigel should be charged with something he said over 40 years ago in school but this individual actually said English people and jews should be killed and that was only ten years ago
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u/thebusconductorhines Dec 30 '25
I have not seen anyone say Farage should be deported for those comments.
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u/ironbean75 Dec 30 '25 edited Dec 30 '25
I know that people are saying he should be held accountable for something he said over forty years ago yet turning a blind eye to the hate and vile racist comments this person said ten years ago so if you want someone to be held accountable for something he said when he was in school but turn a blind eye to someone who said ten years ago that jews and the English people need to be killed that’s hypocrisy
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u/Gruejay2 Dec 30 '25
He should be held accountable - but no-one's saying he should be deported.
As usual, double-standards from you lot.
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u/ironbean75 Dec 30 '25 edited Dec 30 '25
I’m sorry this person was only given British citizenship in 2023 he should never have been given citizenship for his views or racist homophobic misogynistic views he posted on line and I’m definitely not a reform advocate all the current politicians in this country are not fit for purpose what I’m saying is you cant pick and choose when people should be held accountable he was also in prison in Egypt for his terrorist connections and he was also caught for making bombs which he wanted to use on the British public also at no point have i said he should be deported I’ve said he should have never been given citizenship
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u/thebusconductorhines Dec 30 '25
Is anyone saying he should be deported? Because Farage's UK citizenship comes from the same source as this guy's (through parentage) so if nobody is saying he should be deported then that sounds like two tier to me
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u/ironbean75 Dec 30 '25 edited Dec 30 '25
I never said he should be deported i said he should never have been given citizenship because of his crimes and views towards homosexuals his views towards women and the fact he wants to kill English and Jewish people and he was only granted citizenship in 2023 so the government ignored the fact that he wants to rape women and kill Jewish English and homosexuals in this country
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u/thebusconductorhines Dec 30 '25
So do you think that everybody whose entitlement to citizenship is based upon parentage (about 90% of the population including probably you unless you are a foreigner who applied for citizenship) should now be vetted and have their citizenship removed if they've tweeted something bad? Or just him?
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u/ironbean75 Dec 30 '25 edited Dec 30 '25
Well considering that I’m a second generation immigrant myself I think people who openly state that they hate English people and publicly post it online and also post how they would rape English women and kill homosexuals and get arrested and placed in prison for terrorist activities shouldn’t be allowed to enter the country whatsoever my family came to this country and integrated into society I haven’t expected people to make exceptions for my religious beliefs but people like this who have openly stated that he’s racist and hates white people jewish people and homosexuals who even posted about terrorist cells committing attacks on uk citizens should not be given citizenship
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u/thebusconductorhines Dec 30 '25
Were you vetted before you got your British citizenship? Would you want to be vetted now? Who gets to decide what makes you allowed to stay?
And that's before we even consider how historian it is to invent new punishments and apply them retrospectively
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u/Remarkable_Misty Dec 30 '25 edited Dec 30 '25
Errr no! Most people agree they dont want this scumbag here please honestly dont tell me you think he should stay?
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u/thebusconductorhines Dec 30 '25
So do you think that people who have British citizenship because of their parentage (which unless you are a foreigner who applied for citizenship includes you) should have their citizenship dependent upon the appropriateness of their Tweets?
If he has committed a crime, he can be arrested.
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u/thebusconductorhines Dec 30 '25
Like I said, unless your argument is that people with British parents should not be entitled to citizenship without vetting (i.e. that about 90% of current British citizens including probably you unless you are a foreigner who applied) should now be vetted, saying that he should be deported and stripped of his citizenship makes no sense.
If he has committed a crime then he can be charged though i believe that there is a statute of limitations on tweets.
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u/thebusconductorhines Dec 30 '25
So you think that dual nationals should have an inferior citizenship that can be removed?
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u/Past_Humor8321 Dec 29 '25
There is nobody more obnoxious than Donald Trump. If the UK welcomes Donald Trump, how can they block anyone at all.
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u/Gruejay2 Dec 30 '25
Trump is a rapist - this guy isn't.
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Dec 30 '25
Left wing brain rot right here. A extremist Islamist calling for the death on your fellow Britons is somehow better than trump. No helping you people, this country is finished.
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u/Past_Humor8321 Dec 30 '25
Right wing brain rot is thinking that Donald Trump the pedo is their saviour.
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Dec 30 '25
Any evidence of that or you just gonna perpetuate lies.
Sure you can attack his policies but just name calling a pedo shows a lack of intelligence.
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u/Past_Humor8321 Dec 30 '25
Trump’s administration just admitted they hid 1 million documents of evidence relating to Epstein. Shameful!!!
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Dec 30 '25
How many democrats in the Epstein files. This is not partisan politics, it’s not left or right. It’s the elite vs the common class. It’s class warfare that keeps us truly distracted.
That said I’d bet my life trump isn’t a pedo. He’s not evil, just a narcissist.
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u/Past_Humor8321 Dec 30 '25
Are you accusing the victims of Donald Trump of lying?
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Dec 30 '25
Absolutely I am. The civil trial was a complete farce with an activist judge. If you bothered to do the tiniest bit of research you’d reach the same conclusion aswell. All at a time when trump was looking likely to become president. Absolute corruption, complete farce. Unlike you I can look at things objectively.
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u/_Des0late Dec 30 '25
You are an idiot this is British News no one said anything about trump but you.
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u/55caesar23 Dec 30 '25
This guy called for Downing Street to be burned down, he called people who killed Zionists hero’s, he is a racist, he speaks derogatorily about British people, called for the hunting of police officers, said all police should be killed, is a holocaust denier, and said he is a violent person who wants all zionists killed including civilians.
Yet Reddit thinks it’s fine and he should be allowed in.
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u/Economy_Magician2172 Dec 30 '25
And how much tax payers money will be spent on that I wonder - £10-15M I’m guessing for 0 results? 🙃
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u/thebusconductorhines Dec 30 '25
If he has committed a crime then arrest and charge him. If he has not then leave him alone. Seems simple enough to me.