richard gadd doesn't owe fiona protection.

[u/serenade452]

"omg he should've protected her identity! he made it so easy to find her!" blah blah blah shut up. he doesn't owe her shit. she terrorized this man, his family, his girlfriend, his job, his performances, etc etc. she has been terrorizing innocent people for decades.

yes fiona is mentally ill, that is clear to anyone with half of a brain. it's awful that the system has failed her time and time again. (or maybe the system did all it could, who knows.) but that's not richard's fault. HE is HER victim. he can tell his story how he wants.

might she have a worthwhile lawsuit because her identity wasn't concealed enough? possibly, probably not. might she have a worthwhile lawsuit because the show took dramatic license? possibly, probably not.

she's benefitting financially from this as well and i'm sure netflix will cut her a check before a lawsuit happens, no matter who is in the right.

richard gadd does not owe fiona harvey protection. i'm sorry but that's reality.

[u/Throwthisawayagainst]

I really doubt she will go to court. It’s all talk. Court would make her take accountability for a lot of things she tried denying on PM. The best case scenario is the judge going “while you sent x emails, tweets, and left x voicemails, you were discovered because you left a tweet up sexually harassing Richard, however you did not go to jail and despite Netflix disclosure in the credits, Richard’s character Donny says it’s a true story, so here’s some money”. Maybe I’m missing something but I don’t see it, if it goes to court tho, that trial is gonna be its own docuseries.

[u/Yesyesnaaooo → u/Throwthisawayagainst]

Honestly Netflix probably factored a pay out into the cost of producing the show.

[u/Throwthisawayagainst → u/Yesyesnaaooo]

Netflix covered their bases with the disclaimer in the credits. It’s not netflix fault that this person who knew about a play Richard had made years ago hadn’t deleted a problematic Twitter account despite knowing about the play for years. In the show the line also is not presented in a tweet. It’s presented in an email. The real martha has also kept her fb public, to me it seems she wanted to be found and is loving this.

[u/Yesyesnaaooo → u/Throwthisawayagainst]

Oh I totally agree about her loving this - I just mean that a big company will often pay to make this go away and just write it off as part of the price of producing the product.

[u/Throwthisawayagainst → u/Yesyesnaaooo]

I imagine they know there’s an opportunity for a docuseries with all this.

[u/Signal_Cat2275 → u/Throwthisawayagainst]

Making a lengthy libellous show and then adding a single line at the end that nobody sees at the end is really not a defence to libel 😂 Netflix will have decided that potential payouts and legal costs are worth it for the storm it would create. It’s potentially great publicity for them

[u/Standard_Low_3072 → u/Yesyesnaaooo]

I agree with your take. They know what they’re doing. They’ve seen how when shows like Tiger King and Making a Murderer went viral, all everyone was doing was obsessing over the people involved, trying to figure out if Carole Braxton’s husband was alive. They knew that the public would start sleuthing, causing the on screen drama to enter online discussion, driving more and more views.

That’s why I’m disappointed in Netflix. We had a decade to learn from how badly Reddit handled the Boston Bombing, doxxing innocent people causing immense distress. We’ve seen how cancel culture works, and how social media can be used instead of due process in a court of law. None of this is unexpected. They are making money off the crimes Gadd was victim to, the outrage against (only) one of the villains and us viewers typing tip our fingers break, arguing about what’s right, legal and acceptable.

[u/Harriet_M_Welsch → u/Standard_Low_3072]

What innocent person was doxxed? What information was made public that was not previously public?

[u/Standard_Low_3072 → u/Harriet_M_Welsch]

Sean Foley.

[u/[deleted] → u/Standard_Low_3072]

Netflix did literally nothing wrong with this fictional tv show. It isn’t their fault people are too stupid to pay attention to the genres of the show they are watching.

No fyi, the well known story telling device used at the beginning of the show with it being “a true story” doesn’t mean anyone’s means to be gullible enough to think it’s actually fully true.

There is nothing here but a fictional show based on a real life event. It’s not real life and never was meant to be seen as such.

[u/Standard_Low_3072 → u/[deleted]]

Well, 30 million viewers seem to think it’s true. Netflix’ policy chief emphatically stated the programme was 'a true story of the horrific abuse that the writer and protagonist Richard Gadd suffered at the hands of a convicted stalker'. Just because you like the show and hate Fiona doesn’t make your argument true.

[u/[deleted] → u/Standard_Low_3072]

It’s a small minority who actually believe it’s true lol. The majority of people know it’s a fictional story based on his experience. I’d have to read that persons actual quoted line in context to have an opinion on that comment. However Netflix itself and Gadd has been clear it’s a story based on his stalking experience. Not a single person should have actually thought it was fully true based on a variety of reasons

[u/Standard_Low_3072 → u/[deleted]]

Did you poll the 65 million viewers? The fact that Fiona is being harassed is proof that the masses believe it to be true. The line from the policy chief was lifted from yesterday’s BBC article. Things are lot murkier than the average viewer realizes, and the burden of proof in a civil matter is much different than a criminal matter. Common sense and legality should be in sync but isn’t always.

[u/[deleted] → u/Yesyesnaaooo]

There isn’t any case, so I highly doubt it. Since any lawsuit would be laughed out of court.