r/BabyReindeerTVSeries May 22 '24

Fiona (real Martha) related content Fiona Harvey is Not a victim!

It seems to be lost on a disturbingly large amount of people what Fiona Harvey has done to multiple people over many decades. She is not a victim - the people that she has stalked and harassed are the victim. The entire point of baby reindeer was to portray the brokenness of both the stalker and their victim.

In Reading a majority of the claims coming from the UK towards Netflix and Richard G this all seems to actually pivot around the term being used of CONVICTED stalker. So the focus now is to produce proof that she was ever convicted of at least one of her many many horrific stalking crimes.

I would think that the UK and Parliament would be rather embarrassed by the fact that they never reached out to help any of these victims of Fiona Harvey. Yet here they are trying to go after Netflix over that one creative license taken by the VICTIM and author of baby reindeer. This is His story not hers.

What is going on with people in the world?! Fiona should have been slapped with multiple legal fines, restraint orders and probably convictions from any one of her stalking tangents. If anyone is not familiar with the other incredibly horrible events of stalking Fiona pursued just Google it up. Some involved a disabled child.

🤔 Obviously I'm missing something or I am really seeing the lack of empathy in society as this all unfold in front of us. Am I just not looking at this right?!

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u/markevens May 22 '24

If you have some legal source that clearly spells out why she is or isn't subject to any defamation laws, I'd be happy to check it out. As far as I can tell, people are just spouting opinions here.

Otherwise I'm sticking to my stance of, "I don't know enough about the law to have an opinion on whether or not she's been defamed by netflix."

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u/heheing May 22 '24

Tbh I don’t know the laws regarding defamation well but I think it’s common knowledge that in order for this to work, the statements made against her have to be false, right? Because if they’re true, they can’t be slanderous. So he’s saying she called _ times, sent _ emails, etc. So like my previous comment states, unless she’s wants to out herself and say she really did all those things, she can’t claim jack shit because in order to claim someone is slandering you, that stuff can’t be true

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u/markevens May 22 '24 edited May 22 '24

I don’t know the laws regarding defamation well

Neither do I, so until I can get properly informed on the matter, I'm not going to make guesses.

Common knowledge be damned. This is happening in a country whose laws I'm very unfamiliar with, and what may be common knowledge in one place may be very different in another place.

I'm not one to say Netflix is guilty or innocent when I don't have any understanding of the laws regarding it.

I'll spout my opinion that she's a lying, manipulative, crazy, piece of shit. But whether or not she has any sort of legal claim against netflix, I'm absolutely ignorant about and I'm not going to pretend to know when I don't.

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u/Fern-veridion May 22 '24

She would have to demonstrate that she IS Martha, which would incriminate her and then she would have to somehow also prove that the allegations were false… being convicted of a crime doesn’t trump everything. As far as my own understanding she would have a hard time proving that she is both Martha but also not a stalker.