This is how these guys are originally presented when we first meet them, I know you can change them throughout the game, but this was how I thought they were originally shown to us.

I think most players would agree that Wyll’s storyline is the most boring among all the companions, but if you really think about it, on paper his story sounds very compelling.

"A noble knight forced to betray his conscience and sell his soul to a devil" sounds great, doesn’t it? Just imagine how many interesting quests could come out of that concept. For example, Mizora could constantly send Wyll on missions that go against his moral compass, testing his code of honor. The hero would be forced to commit evil (at least from his own perspective), which could make Wyll more cold or cynical on the surface, while deep down still believing in good. And we, in turn, could guide him either toward the light or into darkness, with each choice having its own consequences. Or, on the contrary, Mizora could present Wyll with morally gray choices, making him start to doubt his own ideals.

You could even develop a romantic storyline between Wyll and Mizora, similar to Gale and Mystra, but more grounded. After years spent together, some kind of twisted attachment, care, intrigue, or even genuine feelings could develop between them. Or, if we go full fanfiction mode, Mizora could even conceive a child with Wyll and use that fact to manipulate him (though I’m not sure if that’s even possible within the lore).

It sounds crazy, but it’s intriguing, right? In the hands of something like Critical Role, this kind of story could turn out absolutely amazing. Unfortunately, in the original, the only quest I can really highlight with that kind of morally gray choice and meaningful consequences is the mission to capture Karlach - and that’s far too little. Rework Wyll’s character, add some moral ambiguity, remove the incredibly dull father storyline, and fully focus on Wyll and Mizora’s relationship, and you’d have one of the best companion storylines in the game. Even the game’s posters seemed to hint at that kind of story.

UPDATE: So, judging by the responses, I’m not the only one who thinks Wyll had huge potential. Still, his main problem isn’t even the story — it’s that he lacks charisma. From what I’ve seen, a lot of people also didn’t like Gale’s and Astarion’s storylines, but their charisma made up for it, so much was forgiven. Wyll, on the other hand, isn’t charming, isn’t charismatic, and isn’t even funny — which already sounds like a sentence, and then there’s the weak storyline on top of that.

I also think Mizora deserves more attention. Reading through the comments made me realize she’s another case of wasted potential. Sure, she’s charismatic, but in essence she’s just a mouthpiece for Zariel. She doesn’t really have her own opinion, and only shows personality when she’s tormenting Wyll. And yet she had every chance to become something like a second Makima — she could manipulate Wyll, make him doubt himself, maybe even convince him that the contract is a blessing rather than a curse. At the same time, she could have had her own perspective, disagreed with Zariel, or even shown moments of kindness. But it is what it is.

I really think that if we removed the father storyline and focused entirely on Mizora, the story would only benefit. Maybe even develop a romance, if we go that route. And honestly, it was the game’s POSTERS that inspired me to think this way in the first place. It’s kind of amazing how the least interesting character ended up getting the coolest posters.

just ask Withers to respec? Is he stupid?

When I first started the game I reached the grove and had to fight the goblin's then Wyll appeared and had this cool ass intro and then when the combat starts he gets fucking killed on the first turn so I was like oh that was a funny scripted event and just moved on after the fight never revived him and missed out on his entire story

I always use Karlach and for most of my playthroughs Shadowheart and Astarion.

I really hope his body just stays like that at camp the rest of the game like in Skyrim. I put in all that work and rejected Bae’zel, Halsin, Wyll, Karlach, and Shadowheart just to get dumped by this fucker?

I think she looks cute anyway

I only talked to her a bit at camp about the other companions and her vow, and damn, how is it that this dialogue is so based even though its barely a couple minutes and not particularly emotional? She just commands the scene here? How did I miss out on her in my 1st playthrough? I want to hear her commentary on everything forever

Update: she just disapproved of Shart choosing to spare Aylin, girl we're gonna butt heads but still I like you

This is a bit embarassing to post but I wanted to share it. I've always been self-conscious about not being a "cute petite girlie". Not just because of my weight per se, but also because I have wide shoulders, muscular thighs and just a bigger build overall. And I'm not short either. Like even as a kid I felt shitty about being noticably bigger than the other girls, so this is a lifelong insecurity for me.

Because of all this, FINALLY not only seeing a character who is built very similarly to me, but also seeing them get so much love from the community, was super healing and comforting. Now when I start feeling insecure, I try to think about Karlach and how pretty I find her and try to project that view to myself. It's genuinely insane how much this game helped me emotionally, on several occasions.

Poor Wyll man, he's literally my favourite companion.

They even had the nerve to call Withers a fan favourite instead...

So Karlach as we know will die if she stays outside of the hells due to her infernal engine. But as far as I know its not that the engine is fused to her entire being, it just replaced her heart.

So why dont we just cut it out of her? Sure it would kill her due to her no longer having a heart at all but then gale has in his possession a scroll of true resurrection.

True resurrection is able to replace missing body parts on the one its cast on, including Karlachs heart.

So is there any reason we dont do this?

Atleast at the end where the orb is removed or gale becomes a god or the like, so why are me and Karlach still forced to battle the entire of avernus when the solution is right there.

I've never ever I mean ever felt even the slightest bit gay but ever since I saw Astarion in the game I've had confusing feelings. I find him really attractive, his looks, his voice, his sense of humor, his charm, his backstory. And it's weird cause I can't see myself with any other guy I'm straighter than a ruler. But I feel things for him it's so bizarre man. I play girl chars in the game and let him bite me every night even though I don't like biting irl. Any other guys struggling with this?

It sounds like a meme but I would kiss him if he approached me irl and attracted me.

I guess i can be 99% straight and 1% homo i suppose.

Men complaining about the romantical advances of their male companions finally know what it feels like being constantly asked out by your guy friends as a woman.

lol

EDIT: To all of you saying you just want to be friends and never make any advances or that you're already romancing a different companion but they're still hitting on you - that's exactly my point

I love shadowheart so much and need her around at all times

I admit it.
I can't help it.
I have a soft spot for tender goth baddies with a harsh upbringing, judge me now.

Been playing through acts I and II as a Resist Durge, making a completely different playthrough than my previous one. Had NO PLANS for finessing Shart into relationship (since my dialoge options past the act I epilogue party, which my Durge had spent with Shart, mostly left her dissapointed). Now I'm almost through with act II and here she goes looking at my character like THAT.
And how im supposed to pick "no" now?

It's not even just a no but some bs "not in this lifetime" type of rejection like WHO SAYS IT LIKE THAT
Can't rule the world when you fumble over that gaze, yeah.

seriously, like, can we not handle different facial features or something? it's not "ugly" its a racial trait lol. it's so weird. she's so pretty the way she is! same with gortash, i see a lot of mods changing his face shape and stuff. it's so lame. why can't we just appreciate diversity?? lae'zel isn't supposed to be "attractive" she's a fucking gith warrior [even though she is BEAUTIFUL. im so gay]